Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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So extending this logic with 3.30am semi-clarity : we could take 8 points on each planet +/-32 +/-64 + +/-32 +/- 128 that has the matching rotation > orbit as the ruin does. Depending on its axial tilt 1 of the 8 points would be in the correct position to be a relay? This makes sense in my head but possibly not to others :s

So on your given body of preferance you would search :-

32/64
32/-32
32/-128
32/128

-32/64
-32/-32
-32/-128
-32/128

64/32
64/-32
64/128
64/-128

-64/32
-64/-32
-64/128
-64/-128

Is that what you mean ?
 
degrees are only a unit of measurement. Any angle measurement system would be interchangable with another as it's all based on the physical world.
Yes, but the 32;64 hypothesis relies on the fact that the number of degrees is a power of 2. that is not a universal property across all measurement systems.
 
So on your given body of preferance you would search :-

32/64
32/-32
32/-128
32/128

-32/64
-32/-32
-32/-128
-32/128

64/32
64/-32
64/128
64/-128

-64/32
-64/-32
-64/128
-64/-128

Is that what you mean ?

That's what I'm thinking and now using. From FDev's point of view it's simple but people have to do work to find the sites.

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Yes, but the 32;64 hypothesis relies on the fact that the number of degrees is a power of 2. that is not a universal property across all measurement systems.

Which angle measurement system this would not work in? I through quaternary would.
 
it's too simple, and assumes the guardians also use degrees to measure angles.

Mathematics, whatever you call your units is universal. While another species wont use the name degrees they will have something analogous. Also, what Madwax said :p

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Yes, but the 32;64 hypothesis relies on the fact that the number of degrees is a power of 2. that is not a universal property across all measurement systems.

^ 2 based soley on CMDR Dreamstates calculations. his 31.xxx.64.xx and our ruin at 31.xxx 128. It's a theory with reasonable lack of tinfoil. I'm game to fly back out and try it. If I waste a few more hours so be it. I'll also visit the brain trees :)
 
Mathematics, whatever you call your units is universal. While another species wont use the name degrees they will have something analogous. Also, what Madwax said :p

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^ 2 based soley on CMDR Dreamstates calculations. his 31.xxx.64.xx and our ruin at 31.xxx 128. It's a theory with reasonable lack of tinfoil. I'm game to fly back out and try it. If I waste a few more hours so be it. I'll also visit the brain trees :)

The aliens I have met uses relations between sets to determine values. And so do we humans, just that most of us forgot what we relate our numbers to.
0,1,e,phi,pi, fingers ... etc etc.
 
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^ 2 based soley on CMDR Dreamstates calculations. his 31.xxx.64.xx and our ruin at 31.xxx 128. It's a theory with reasonable lack of tinfoil. I'm game to fly back out and try it. If I waste a few more hours so be it. I'll also visit the brain trees :)

Just relised we need to check 0 as well.
 
going to d101. if anyone else is out there checking around, let me know so we can coordinate our efforts.

on another note, i have a feeling that once we find one or two more sites, the puzzle will solve itself and we can find the remaining ones.

fun stuff
 
If the reward for this mystery isn't an advanced surface scanner.... well I may just throw my toys out of my pram !!!
 
Another thought you are not taking rotation of the star systems or the rotation of the galaxy into your estimate. I am out giving your concept a try........
 
The Guardians like equilateral triangles. Six equilateral triangles can be organized into a circle that divides the circumference into 6 equal parts. So it is likely that whatever angular measure they use, it is divisible by 6. Since our 360 degrees is also divisible by 6, our degrees and their degrees are at least proportional.

It is also likely they would define some latitude/longitude coordinate scheme that references sites on the surface to the rotational axis and equator, if the position were important to sky visibility. They could use something completely different to reference locations on a sphere, like a soccer ball hexagonal pattern. This makes a lot of sense but it does not relate well to the axis of rotation or the equator.

What they would not use is our longitude reference. We arbitrarily have the site located at 128 degrees. They don't know this, and even we don't know what the zero point is referenced to. They probably have the site located at their zero.
 
Revised picture - I tried applying the compass to it, but gave up because the picture isn't amazing at all for trying to place one on top of (the camera is off the centre of the "key" as I call it in the picture below, because the original screen shot wasn't taken directly overhead of the round symbol).

Hopefully this may satisfy you if you needed confirmation :)

EDIT: Updated with a bit more info.

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Looking back over ram tah's galnet article he said explore these systems... he did not say planets... this could mean something is hidden in the system in general... could be in an asteroid field... there are several bands of them near the star or atleast places to drop from sc at or rings of a planet...

This. Our system maps are really simplistic, we cant see the whole system moving.. and planets orbiting each other. Maybe we should just Super cruise... and analyse the orbitlines of the 4 systems.
 
That's what I'm thinking and now using. From FDev's point of view it's simple but people have to do work to find the sites.

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Which angle measurement system this would not work in? I through quaternary would.

Aliens might be alien enough to use RADIANS to describe angles.
 
This. Our system maps are really simplistic, we cant see the whole system moving.. and planets orbiting each other. Maybe we should just Super cruise... and analyse the orbitlines of the 4 systems.

But the angles between planets are constantly changing. Unless FDev planned on us discovering and solving the Ruins in enough time to see the proper orbital angles, this isn't useful.

But the absolute distance between stellar bodies is less subject to change, right? They are more constant; a better target for long term planning.
 
But the angles between planets are constantly changing. Unless FDev planned on us discovering and solving the Ruins in enough time to see the proper orbital angles, this isn't useful.

But the absolute distance between stellar bodies is less subject to change, right? They are more constant; a better target for long term planning.

The ruins are on the planets and that is all. Fdev is busy fleshing out the create-a-sim equivalent for the next update and they already past the promised release dates. They wouldnt bother with designing and implementing anything new for the xenohenge puzzle.
 
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