THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

I checked this theory earlier today... check all these gates at all bases and the markings are identical on all of them. Looks like its just part of the graphics model used to create the bases in game.

It says:

CAPY. 3229088999
DEST. ARC-18788
RE-BUILD 49-001

If anyone in the bubble could check one of the abandoned bases there and confirm it's the same, we can put this to bed 100%

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Thank you sir, glad you enjoyed the wright-up :D
It's the only way I can think of where everything fits and makes sense and ties in all the current story-lines

If CAPY means capacity then what is the units used cos its a huge number! Could this be a hidden clue?
If DEST. Means destination, then ARC could be something something Catalogue, like the various star catalogues.
 
My theory about experiments and experimental tech gone awry could still fit?

***Tin foil hat time***

Sirius Corp (Funded by The Imps and Feds) were joint field testing with prototype meta-drives based on alien tech (discovered UA's or UP's). Maybe beacons were set up in 3 far away regions (conflux/gap/rift) for these prototype drives to lock onto for initial testing (see if they can jump that far?). Once the drives were charged and jump initiated, something went horribly wrong.

Ships with these prototypes in the bubble went "missing", and the exit point at the other end (in the rift/conflux/gap) opened up but something else came out (aliens, lurking evil etc.) causing equipment malfunctions and general shenanigans for hundreds of light years around these exit points, eventually costing everyone their lives. Since then they have tried to cover it all up. whatever came out the other side might also be what the old woman was afraid of in the rift.

Fast forward to more recently and Kahina has now learned the truth (holofac docs and also what she saw herself in the rift) and is being hunted/persecuted by the Imps/Feds to silence her.

The alliance also got wind of these experiments and are trying to either reproduce, or produce their own version. This is why the Alliance has such an interest in regions where meta-alloys and UA/UP are found (Hence Mic Turner Base way out in the California nebula). Raan Corsen came across these secret archived reports of what happened 30 years ago while an employee of Sirius Corp, dug deeper, and discovered the Alliance's secret project regarding Meta-drives. Horrieid by the events of what happened before, and determined not to let it happen again, he stole the docs and the new prototype ship the Alliance had and attempted to flee, crashing somewhere in Alioth system.

Since honking UP's disables ships, fits that equipment malfunctions in these regions where tech based on said alien technology was being deployed.

Since the Alliance has started up these experiments again, and this alien based technology is active again after 30 years. these aliens have returned looking for their technology (hyperdictions) in an ever expanding area. Also explains the hyperspace interdictions, weird lights, etc from the data logs 30 years ago.

Some realms in space and time we are simply not meant to visit, and these Aliens/thargoids are meant to keep us in our own dimension, by force if necessary. (explains previous wars maybe? how long have we been experimenting and using frame shifting drives? where exactly is "hyperspace" when we are between folds in space? seeing as FSD works by folding space in front of the ship, and uses thrusters to "hop" from one fold to the next moving forward.

Sorry for the rant...

This is my attempt to tie everything together...
Wouldn't mind some feedback... not sure if I'm close or way off base..
There's A LOT of details and story-lines to keep track of...

I like this
 
The place to look for Earth-likes is here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/168287-List-of-Earth-like-worlds-v2
There are currently nine reported ELWs in EAFOTS sector:
EAFOTS AW-E D11-35 A5
EAFOTS CQ-Y D3 12
EAFOTS GI-B D13-13 5
EAFOTS GI-B D13-28 B7
EAFOTS GI-B D13-60 B4
EAFOTS RI-B D13-98 4
EAFOTS SL-R B33-1 A1
EAFOTS TW-U C16-8 A5
EAFOTS UO-Z D13-111 1
edit: ninja'd, although it seems we're both missing a few from each others' lists

Ill have to check as Ive not been back to the bubble (but I might have made a note) of finding one during my trip out here....
 
My theory about experiments and experimental tech gone awry could still fit?

***Tin foil hat time***

Sirius Corp (Funded by The Imps and Feds) were joint field testing with prototype meta-drives based on alien tech (discovered UA's or UP's). Maybe beacons were set up in 3 far away regions (conflux/gap/rift) for these prototype drives to lock onto for initial testing (see if they can jump that far?). Once the drives were charged and jump initiated, something went horribly wrong.

Ships with these prototypes in the bubble went "missing", and the exit point at the other end (in the rift/conflux/gap) opened up but something else came out (aliens, lurking evil etc.) causing equipment malfunctions and general shenanigans for hundreds of light years around these exit points, eventually costing everyone their lives. Since then they have tried to cover it all up. whatever came out the other side might also be what the old woman was afraid of in the rift.

Fast forward to more recently and Kahina has now learned the truth (holofac docs and also what she saw herself in the rift) and is being hunted/persecuted by the Imps/Feds to silence her.

The alliance also got wind of these experiments and are trying to either reproduce, or produce their own version. This is why the Alliance has such an interest in regions where meta-alloys and UA/UP are found (Hence Mic Turner Base way out in the California nebula). Raan Corsen came across these secret archived reports of what happened 30 years ago while an employee of Sirius Corp, dug deeper, and discovered the Alliance's secret project regarding Meta-drives. Horrieid by the events of what happened before, and determined not to let it happen again, he stole the docs and the new prototype ship the Alliance had and attempted to flee, crashing somewhere in Alioth system.

Since honking UP's disables ships, fits that equipment malfunctions in these regions where tech based on said alien technology was being deployed.

Since the Alliance has started up these experiments again, and this alien based technology is active again after 30 years. these aliens have returned looking for their technology (hyperdictions) in an ever expanding area. Also explains the hyperspace interdictions, weird lights, etc from the data logs 30 years ago.

Some realms in space and time we are simply not meant to visit, and these Aliens/thargoids are meant to keep us in our own dimension, by force if necessary. (explains previous wars maybe? how long have we been experimenting and using frame shifting drives? where exactly is "hyperspace" when we are between folds in space? seeing as FSD works by folding space in front of the ship, and uses thrusters to "hop" from one fold to the next moving forward.

Sorry for the rant...

This is my attempt to tie everything together...
Wouldn't mind some feedback... not sure if I'm close or way off base..
There's A LOT of details and story-lines to keep track of...

Had the same thought, especially, while reading through the Galnet articles about the Antares

However: Don't mix up the FSD "Modes". Supercruise is like the Warp Drive in Star Trek, while the Hyperdrive is more like Star Wars / Stargate.

Supercruise is based on the Alcubierre Drive, which - as you said - shifts the frame of space so, that the space in front of the ship is compressed and expanded behind the ship. Since there aren't different "folds" (the folding is "fluid"), it doesn't move forward with the thrusters. A good analogy would be a current in a river. The Water around moves and pulls you along - in this case, the Frameshift moves the frame of space the ship is in, like pulling on a rope, while sitting in a boat. Supercruise relies on Einstein's field equations or general relativity - so, pretty normal physics, nothing especially fancy, since it doesn't involve Quantum Mechanics (see Alcubierre drive - those are "real" theoretical physics).

800px-Alcubierre.png


Hypercruise on the other side punches a hole through space - it's a wormhole. How this exactly works, is open for debate, at the moment the theories range from Quantum Foam, to Dark Matter over to the Quantum Field Theorie. How you would determine entry and exit point of the wormhole is a completely different matter. I've read Stephen Hawkings "Universe in a nutshell" countless times, but i still haven't fully understood wormholes, or at least how you could control them. But, since apparently Wormholes are inherently unstable and they need to use "exotic matter" to stabilize them, this ties in very well with Elite Lore:

In Elite Lore, the first long range "jumping" started around 2800, with so called "Faraway Orientation Systems Controllers" - they had defined entry and exit points, so the "Wormhole" was kept open and were not generated by the ships.

By 3125 the first hyperdrives for ships started appearing - they used so called "quirium" as exotic matter to stabilize the Hyperspace Conduit and were "Type 2b Hyperdrives". Only the "Galactic Cooperative" had the "recipe" for quirium. However, the Galactic Cooperative took it to it's grave, and these "small" Hyperdrives where lost until 3290. We all know what happened to the Prism System because of Tantalum - the new "exotic material" (at least, that's my guess). They are called "Type 3 Hyperdrives".

Another guess of mine is, that the Antares used something like a "2c Hyperdrive". We also know, it is possible to stay in that Hyperspace Conduit or "The Space between the Universe" - Thargoids have to power and knowledge to use that. We also know, the Guardians appear to be extremely sophisticated. I wouldn't be surprised, if they have mastered all of this too.

Maybe those expeditions were for a combination of the "Faraway" travel and "2b Hyperdrives", so you could jump from the bubble to somwhere in the Formidine Rift in a matter of seconds, to establish these Orientation System Controllers out there.

Also, since Drew Wager seems to be as fascinated by those theories, as i am, i'd say it is not a very far stretch, that all this, the Formidine Rift, Sirius Corp., Salomé and so on have something to do with Hyperspacetravel, Witch-Space (or the Space between the Universe - some actual scientists have theorized, that this is some kind of quantum level) and maybe even another species, living inside that realm - maybe the Formidine Rift is some sort of very special part of space, where these edges are not as constant, as they are anywhere else (AFAIK, this was suggested somewhere...).

This brings me to another speculation...has anyone every looked for black holes, anomalys or anything else around there? Especially, since apparently you can find the mystery for quite a long time now...


(Edit and Disclaimer: I am just a very big Sci-Fi Nerd, i love science and i tried to study something that had to do with all this - but i dropped out after the third Semester, i'm just to impatient for the maths behind all that stuff...i may be wrong about the Wormhole Stuff. As i said, i haven't even fully understood the real theories behind them. So if we have some "real scientists" around here, that understand the Science behind the Wormholes, i'd love a correction of things that are wrong ;) )
 
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Questions, are we positive that the search for the ELW should be within 200LY? Didn't that number just apply to the CG?
And I understand this ELW won't necessarily have a beacon orbiting somewhere in its system?

ZACH, thank you again for putting that page together. There must have been a tremendous effort on your end to collect all the info. BTW I just noticed something; the sentence "Welome to the 4th Formidine Rift Thread!" is missing a "C" in Welcome.
 
Just my observations while eyeballing the Delta site:

Red container's came from Brewer Corp... not much is known about them.

One green Container that came from Vega.. More specifically named Vega Line Shipping.

Roughly a gajillion Delta (red triangles).. (this is nothing, they are at the other sites too at the top of the antennae towers, and spread around the site.)

A good few (blue) > signs... Possibly Greater Than Sign? Or a symbol/letter in another language.

And also a few Right Angled Triangles. (Irrelevant)

And various other signs... all irrelevant! E.g PFM? 23 FH 32 Spec M64? (written on a number of tanks).

There is nothing here that would even give us a hint of how to find another base/crashed ship/cloud 9! The only thing i had noticed was the Comms Log Uplinks give out a distortion sound effect every so often.

And then we have the DEST: ARC 18788? t8788? who knows. Even at 1440p its blurry! Going to check over the messages we received from the logs.

Also EAFOTS CK-A D7, EAFOTS QM-M C7-2 and EAFOTS HB-N C7-0 all contained an ELW. And have been searched thoroughly from planet to planet! NOTHING!

TL:DR Mad rambling!
 
Questions, are we positive that the search for the ELW should be within 200LY? Didn't that number just apply to the CG?
And I understand this ELW won't necessarily have a beacon orbiting somewhere in its system?

ZACH, thank you again for putting that page together. There must have been a tremendous effort on your end to collect all the info. BTW I just noticed something; the sentence "Welome to the 4th Formidine Rift Thread!" is missing a "C" in Welcome.

I was wondering about the 200LY number myself. I'm currently following the "line" defined by the 4 beacon systems upward and outward looking for, well, anything. Stars are definitely getting sparse up here.
 
It seems that there are some mysteries to solve back in the Bubble. I have contributed as much as I can as I'm not that smart, so I'm going to plot my course back to the Bubble and see what I can uncover.
Drews unofficial repping of a post earlier on is worth looking into
 
It seems that there are some mysteries to solve back in the Bubble. I have contributed as much as I can as I'm not that smart, so I'm going to plot my course back to the Bubble and see what I can uncover.
Drews unofficial repping of a post earlier on is worth looking into

This! But a huge part of me wants to stay here. I'm on the verge of checking around Persophone in Sol, I recall someone saying something about a connection there to do with the rift. And somewhere else... cant quite remember where that somewhere else was.
 
It seems that there are some mysteries to solve back in the Bubble. I have contributed as much as I can as I'm not that smart, so I'm going to plot my course back to the Bubble and see what I can uncover.
Drews unofficial repping of a post earlier on is worth looking into

Not that smart??? Are you kidding?? You figured out how to pinpoint the location of the delta settlement to within 1 degree, and then found it in the dark. Give yourself some credit.
 
Not that smart??? Are you kidding?? You figured out how to pinpoint the location of the delta settlement to within 1 degree, and then found it in the dark. Give yourself some credit.

I'll second that. Even knowing the exact location... they are not easy to spot. The only way the difficulty could be higher is if you were doing it blindfolded and all your flight controls reversed at random intervals.


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I just realized that randomly reversing flight controls might be a "feature" in 2.3. Hah.
 
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I think we have to consider that the old woman's clues are much older than the Dynasty expedition and the Exodus project.

She mentioned GalCop as part of the cover up. There was no GalCop in the 3270s. The shut down probably 100 years earlier.

The nasty stuff has been out here for a long time. The expedition, 30 years ago ran into it.

As I said in the other thread. I think TOL went out there, found stuff, no one believed her (except maybe someone with some resources), and then threw the mission together - perhaps hiring her as part of the crew.

Z...
 
*lurk mode off*

Hi guys,

Apologies if this has been noticed before, but I'm at work and I've not had time to read everything.

Drew's comment about missed clues had me thinking of this galnet article - http://ed.frank-heinrich.net/index.php?title=Galnet_Archive#02_DEC_3302_.E2.80.93_Galactic_News:_Amateurs_Partially_Decrypt_Signal. It's about a signal from the same ship that broadcast the "EAFOTS" clue.

If you treat the numbers as octal and partially convert to letters (adding 64 to get the ASCII value) you get this,:

1 7 10 * 20 22 25 * 1 5 23 3 23 * 10 27 - 23 * 2 3 1 - 2 * 3 4 * 1 * 43 33 31 23 * 7 21 25 27 (Octal)
1 7 8 * 16 18 21 * 1 5 19 3 19 * 8 23 - 19 * 2 3 1 - 2 * 3 4 * 1 * 35 27 25 19 * 7 17 21 23 (Decimal)
A G H * P R U * A E S C S * H W - S * B 3 1 - 2 * C D * 1 * c [ Y S * G Q U W (ASCII)

Now, PRU AESCS HW-S B31-2 CD1 is the location of one of the Conflux settlements. I'm not sure about the 178/AGH at the start and the numbers/letters at the end. Co-ordinates, perhaps?

Could there could be more signals being broadcast in Tionisla by 'the Hamsters'? Unfortunately I'm out in the Rift (and at work right now.)
 
Not that smart??? Are you kidding?? You figured out how to pinpoint the location of the delta settlement to within 1 degree, and then found it in the dark. Give yourself some credit.

And it is virtually invisible in day light never mid night lol.
 
*lurk mode off*

Hi guys,

Apologies if this has been noticed before, but I'm at work and I've not had time to read everything.

Drew's comment about missed clues had me thinking of this galnet article - http://ed.frank-heinrich.net/index.php?title=Galnet_Archive#02_DEC_3302_.E2.80.93_Galactic_News:_Amateurs_Partially_Decrypt_Signal. It's about a signal from the same ship that broadcast the "EAFOTS" clue.

If you treat the numbers as octal and partially convert to letters (adding 64 to get the ASCII value) you get this,:

1 7 10 * 20 22 25 * 1 5 23 3 23 * 10 27 - 23 * 2 3 1 - 2 * 3 4 * 1 * 43 33 31 23 * 7 21 25 27 (Octal)
1 7 8 * 16 18 21 * 1 5 19 3 19 * 8 23 - 19 * 2 3 1 - 2 * 3 4 * 1 * 35 27 25 19 * 7 17 21 23 (Decimal)
A G H * P R U * A E S C S * H W - S * B 3 1 - 2 * C D * 1 * c [ Y S * G Q U W (ASCII)

Now, PRU AESCS HW-S B31-2 CD1 is the location of one of the Conflux settlements. I'm not sure about the 178/AGH at the start and the numbers/letters at the end. Co-ordinates, perhaps?

Could there could be more signals being broadcast in Tionisla by 'the Hamsters'? Unfortunately I'm out in the Rift (and at work right now.)

I brought this up a few pages back. Yes, that signal decoded by Canonn gave the location AND COORDINATES of one of the settlements of the dynasty expedition. It was. CTD when it was uncovered, and forgotten about. We've since found and logged that one. But we haven't found any more of the clues for the others. And we still have 3 or 4 more settlements to find.
 
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I brought this up a few pages back. Yes, that signal decoded by Canonn gave the location AND COORDINATES of one of the settlements of the dynasty expedition. It was. CTD when it was uncovered, and forgotten about. We've since found and logged that one. But we haven't found any more of the clues for the others. And we still have 3 or 4 more settlements to find.

"We had no choice but to take them offline as they hadn't renewed their broadcasting licence. We will restore their broadcasting privileges once the appropriate charges have been paid."

Could it be that in Tionisla system a misson would be generated to pay the broadcasting licence? So the rest of the message would be released by the EM-transmission technology enthusiasts like they did whit the first one. I'm in populated space and i will pass by Tionisla to see if i spot any thing in there.
 
I brought this up a few pages back. Yes, that signal decoded by Canonn gave the location AND COORDINATES of one of the settlements of the dynasty expedition. It was. CTD when it was uncovered, and forgotten about. We've since found and logged that one. But we haven't found any more of the clues for the others. And we still have 3 or 4 more settlements to find.

I think I'm onto something with regard of the load time entering glide at the last remaining Gap base. i will be back to my rig later tonight and will post the details.
 
I brought this up a few pages back. Yes, that signal decoded by Canonn gave the location AND COORDINATES of one of the settlements of the dynasty expedition. It was. CTD when it was uncovered, and forgotten about. We've since found and logged that one. But we haven't found any more of the clues for the others. And we still have 3 or 4 more settlements to find.

Ah, cool. So we've looked for other clues but not found anything. That's frustrating.
 
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