Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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666Savior

666Savior
So, we just have all commanders go to a planet and fly along the 78.75 degree line. If the logic is correct we should stumble across the ruins, right?

anyone willing to try this?
 
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Straha Yeagar

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nrage said:
Sorry, but I am really sick of this complaint. I am honestly not trying to pick on you specifically, I am just picking this post to respond to.

Yes, basing a theory on one example is not scientific. But, the truly scientific approach here is to meticulously scan every planet in all 4 systems to collect "data" then to pore over that data and attempt to find correlations, using those correlations generate hypothesis which can be tested in other systems to confirm or deny the hypothesis.

We could do that, but it would take far too long, and we probably don't have enough people to get it done. But more than that.. THIS IS A PUZZLE and not scientific research, the focus of a puzzle is nothing like the focus of scientific research. With a puzzle we start with certainty that there is a solution to find and the goal is to find that solution as fast as possible. With research you do not even know if there is a solution and your purpose is to gather enough data to make some sort of statement about whether a solution exists, what it might be, and to form a tool that can predict further results of the same sort.

So, coming up with a hare brained hypothesis and testing it is a perfectly valid tactic for puzzle solving, especially when that hare brained hypothesis gives you a quick and easy thing to test (vs scanning every planet). If your test proves to find something, it certainly does not imply the reasoning was sound, and it doesn't necessarily give you a mechanism for finding more such sites, but, at this stage with the limited data we have we have to treat this like a puzzle, not science.

Once we have multiple sites and more data, then we can be scientific and try to create a theory which will help find yet more of them. But, at this stage, with the data we have (and the tools we have to gather more) it's very hard to actually science this thing.

So, I wish people would stop complaining about the crazy ideas being posted, everyone solves puzzles differently and one luck break is as likely as anything to solve it.


WRT your post now; What do you mean by "starting from the beginning"?
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Each "theory" in this case is nothing more than a reason to pick any particular planet to begin searching over any other one with no particular reason to believe any one will be more successful than any other one. In other words, rationalizing the pick for a random starting point for a brute force search. Quite literally, based on the actual information we have, it is just as likely to be successful picking any particular planet because it has your favorite number in the name, or because three of the letters in its name are in your sisters' neighbours' ex-husbands first cousin three times removed name...
 
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Factabulous

Factabulous
666Savior said:
So, we just have all commanders go to a planet and fly along the 78.75 degree line. If the logic is correct we should stumble across the ruins, right?

anyone willing to try this?
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Anyone going to try this on the original ruins? I know it should work there, but if in practice you miss the ruins then there's little point in getting multiple CMDRs on a goose chase (might find you need 'n' CMDRs in a row to make it worthwhile). Good luck with the 78.75 heading, I'm happy to keep within +/- 1 :)
 

CMDR Cosmic Spacehead

CMDR Cosmic Spacehead
CMDR Hellakitty said:
Well I've given 30 hours of my time eyeballing planets. Now off to go make friends with Sirius so I can get access to Marco Gwent. I'll be keeping an eye on this thread just in case one of you clever people actually works out which piece of the puzzle is yet undiscovered. Good luck. o7
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It seems I can't PM you. No idea why. Lol

Good luck with Sirius Corporation.
If I remember correctly, HIP 8326 is a Sirius Corporation Owned system, with a RES.
You can get allied with a few mil in bounty vouchers there. Double check before you fly out their though. Lol
You can also do the same at Nav Beacons closer to home.

I too, have given up on the search and returned to the bubble for the CG.
If you need help ranking up, or with the dreaded Modular Terminals, I'll be sure to keep and eye out.
 

Freudulent

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I'll give it a go 666Savior. As I hadn't previous;y intended to hunt ALL bodies I started going with gut feel. Planet IC 2391 SECTOR GW-V B2-4 B1 was an obvious one as it had the 'key' like lok to it from the system map. I went to (-32,-128) and found nothing there. If I tried really hard I could make out separate dog and paw shaped structures on the land below! No ruins though. I'm sure everyone is probably aware that there is a website that tells you what bearing to head along to get to a certain Long/Lat from your current location (http://www.hotdoy.ca/edbearing/ ). It's really quite handy. Anyway, I stopped in the D101 system, took one look at it and decided I had no idea where to start so I'm off to theC22-17 system. I'll start the survey from there in SOLO when I get the chance on and off with work etc.
 

FS Jake

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666Savior said:
So, we just have all commanders go to a planet and fly along the 78.75 degree line. If the logic is correct we should stumble across the ruins, right?

anyone willing to try this?
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this is to be done on all landable planets in the 4 systems right ? me and a friend are in d101 atm his on c3a (where we found the tree's) and im on c3, we are happy to check there, what altitude ?
 

Cmdr Shijima

Cmdr Shijima
abyssdj said:
I think a lot of the theories are forgetting that this is just a game and supposed to be fun. Not everyone has a degree in tin foilery or the time to align a map with mars, cross that over jupiter and then compare to the average height of chinese women, whilst overlaying the peaks of a spectrogram of a harp being played slowly.
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But this is fun ... at least for me personally. :)
 

drspiff

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straha20 said:
Each "theory" in this case is nothing more than a reason to pick any particular planet to begin searching over any other one with no particular reason to believe any one will be more successful than any other one. In other words, rationalizing the pick for a random starting point for a brute force search. Quite literally, based on the actual information we have, it is just as likely to be successful picking any particular planet because it has your favorite number in the name, or because three of the letters in its name are in your sisters' neighbours' ex-husbands first cousin three times removed name...
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That's not how probabilities.

While it might be wrong, using something that actually is involved with the game to make your guess has a higher probability than your favorite number.
 

CMDR Boviedon

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Hello Commanders, my first post :]

I like idea of hexagonal compass... http://www.robertschoch.net/Hexagon Solstice Kiva.htm

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It is nice coincidence that every side of hexagon has directly 6 (small ones) and 12 (large ones) of segments, leading that every segment is 10°.

So the position of beacon can give us angle and distance from middle... question is what is reference point... and also why there was change of the beacon position between pre-fixed and in fixed version of the ruins....
 

666Savior

666Savior
FS Jake said:
this is to be done on all landable planets in the 4 systems right ? me and a friend are in d101 atm his on c3a (where we found the tree's) and im on c3, we are happy to check there, what altitude ?
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pretty much yeah. id say an altitude anywhere between 1.5km and 7km. That way if you pass over you can still maybe hear them
 
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