Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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Bryan K

Bryan K
The_Sprite said:
Instead of constantly asking FDev to solve these puzzles for us why not just wait till one of us solves it??

We spent years asking FDev to up their game and give us something to explore and stuff to solve and all you lot want is an easy answer to it all.
They wouldn't have put 4 weeks on Ram Tahs mission if they were gonna give us the coordinates to all of the mysteries and solve it for us.
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I took this mission back when it was first available, and we're almost out of time now. I don't feel comfortable using an exploit to get the mission again.

People here have been staring at the ruins for months now, and we're no closer to an answer now than we were when we started.
 

taleden

taleden
Michael Brookes, in the interest of avoiding hundreds of us potentially wasting thousands of hours on a wild goose chase, would you perhaps have mercy and tell us whether there is *currently* any way to discover the surface coordinates of a new Guardian site *other* than randomly flying around hoping to chance upon it and spot it by eye? A simple yes or no would suffice. :)
 

Nagual

Nagual
The_Sprite said:
Instead of constantly asking FDev to solve these puzzles for us why not just wait till one of us solves it??

We spent years asking FDev to up their game and give us something to explore and stuff to solve and all you lot want is an easy answer to it all.
They wouldn't have put 4 weeks on Ram Tahs mission if they were gonna give us the coordinates to all of the mysteries and solve it for us.
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Or they are working to a time scale. If we miss something (if there is actually something to work out other than by brute forcing the locations) or whatever then FDev will step in somehow to make sure the story unfolds as they need it to.
 

Pumabear8

Pumabear8
stick152 said:
For those of you still working at the original ruins site...

I'm a visual person, so seeing the relationship of artifacts (and obelisks) in a graphical way (in this case, a 3-D model) helped me a lot. It also made it easier for me to do quick scanning runs on the ruins.

Anyhow, in case anyone else might find it useful, here ya go.
http://i.imgur.com/GuA21ht.png
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There is a theory among some astro-biologist's that states if aliens attempted communication, they'd use atomic structures since they're universal.
 
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Cmdr Edard

Cmdr Edard
SpaceGoblin said:
Awesome!

So the moon rises "behind" the small circle and sets "behind the large circle - from that vid and my preceeding picture (taken some minutes after moon started to rise.

Does that mean the hexagonal wall *is* a sky compass afterall, and the moon rise/set gives us a way to calculate things from it?
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This is my thinking at the moment too. If we know where it rises and sets and where it sits at it's highest point and we identify the feature on the ruins that marks the highest point (if it exist) we know a reason why the ruins are laid out the way there are. Then we can ask why they used the moon for their ruins.
 
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Euthanasia843

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Was searching in Synuefe ZL-J d10-119 on 7 C. Only thing I noticed (which is probably nothing) is that on the bright side of the planet are a BUNCH of mountains, while on the dark side there were close to none that I saw (didn't spend much time on the dark side) i landed by some of the mountains and found nothing special, they make for good scenery though.
 

The_Sprite

The_Sprite
Pumabear8 said:
How many commanders have been looking at the ruins, how many have participated in this thread with ideas and theories regarding the site?

I for one find it difficult to believe that of a 1000 commanders, not one is resolving anything, so either someone knows something and not saying anything, or the clues are so obscure only the developer thinks it's obvious.
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Theres the possibility that the Ruin was found far too early and we missed all of the clues leading up to it which could / Might have helped with the puzzles here.

I have spent a long time looking at bits of the Ruins myself but still get stuck on a Math based Idea I have since its not my Forte lol.

I`ve been looking for anything similar to the pictures on the ruins and all I keep seeing are Pascal Triangles.

https://ixalon.github.io/elitedangerous/

Using the Final Images of the rotating images I see similarities in this

PascalsTriangle.gif

but my problem is I am unsure which math base to use to make any sense of it.
Base 8. Base 10. Hex etc.

I am still running through it but until something jumps out I think my approach could also be a dead end.

But I do believe that there is something in it that we haven't figured out.
The Relic shares the same puzzle and must be a Key to it all.
Maybe even something as simple as the Icon for This particular Ruin.
 
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Cmdr Lucca1985

Cmdr Lucca1985
In the Synuefe with 119 at the end theres a world orbiting a gas giant, one of two for that particular giant and the only landable. Theres a small patch of land seemingly bare of impacts in between two large craters with a small L or V canyon or crevasse im going to check there this evening
 
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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
havran said:
Little blue POI always mean some interestig? This POI is persisted after restart game. (This is field of Brain Trees from IC 2391 Sector ZE-A d101 C3 A).

http://images.akamai.steamuserconte...575/BB77E46F4B0C6175F678E0ECF18105CF68159954/
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Small blue circle in my experience indicates a ppoi that is a non-threat (but this latter is inferred not proven). I have often encountered them as large blue circles which shrink as you refine the position to their final small size & they always seem to be mining drill sites.

Edit: which might tie in with the brain trees as Guardian genetically engineered mining plant (pun intended!)
 
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Scaarab

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Pumabear8 said:
There is a theory among some astrologists that states if aliens attempted communication, they'd use atomic structures since they're universal.
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As far as I heard the actual representation of atoms these days is by representing electrons as probability clouds rather than the old atomic orbits thing. Someone smarter than me can shed some light on it. Therefore I doubt it. Even if they are representation of what is what is the problem. There should be a clue in the first site as to why that planet and why those coordinates. Which should be viable at all systems and all sites. But what is it that I can not see..........
 

SpaceGoblin

SpaceGoblin
nrage said:
Not in game ATM, won't be till later. Random thought.. Is it possible to line the relic beacons up with the planets Ram Tah has given us by rotating the galaxy map, and once you do is there a system in the position where the vertical ridge ends? Cos that ridge plus the circle looks like the stalk on the star in the galmap..
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Thats very intersting! I'll give it a whirl in a moment.

With the advent of the moon symbology sparked by CMDR Edard, I had taken to thinking of the "stalk" (Key, ridge, etc) as a "you are here" indicator.
 

mclester

M
SpaceGoblin said:
Last time I was here they where weirdly silent. The only difference is last time I stopped by I had a relic in my hold (I took it up to space to "honk" it - no response). I sold it when I was back in Meene fo repairs and module upgrades.
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When was you last there? I noticed this last Saturday.
 

frostypaw

frostypaw
CMDR Aurynn said:
How does Ram Tah know that? He knows the Guardian World? Or is he suggesting their use different glyphs on different planets?
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it's not terrifically well thought out stuff. There are a variety of self-referential details that would require previous knowledge of the species. Even having them call themselves the Guardians in their own texts is very weird when you think about it. In every single language on earth the people just call themselves the people.
 

SpaceGoblin

SpaceGoblin
mclester said:
When was you last there? I noticed this last Saturday.
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Last night. About 21 hrs ago.

nrage said:
Not in game ATM, won't be till later. Random thought.. Is it possible to line the relic beacons up with the planets Ram Tah has given us by rotating the galaxy map, and once you do is there a system in the position where the vertical ridge ends? Cos that ridge plus the circle looks like the stalk on the star in the galmap..
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Ok, I've tried this.. As others have noted, its only possible to get close to that layout if you use the ruins planet as the "SW" corner beacon.

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This puts the tip of the central ridge about halfway between Synuefe XR-H d11-102 and IC Sector 2391 ZE-A D101.

A lot of stars there! The marked one is just for approximating the location.

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Synuefe ZL-J D10-119, the most remote of the revealled systems is on a line *almost* through C22-17 when you look back at d11-102 from its position on the gal-map.
 
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Lobey

Lobey
stick152 said:
For those of you still working at the original ruins site...

I'm a visual person, so seeing the relationship of artifacts (and obelisks) in a graphical way (in this case, a 3-D model) helped me a lot. It also made it easier for me to do quick scanning runs on the ruins.

Anyhow, in case anyone else might find it useful, here ya go.
http://i.imgur.com/GuA21ht.png
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My god you've discovered the Atomic structure of Unobtanium !
 
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