In my opinion ED:H would do well to implement a planet map system that allows you to input co-ordinates and create surface way-points.
Particularly if we are going to continue hunting for landfall alien sites.
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Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn
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In my opinion ED:H would do well to implement a planet map system that allows you to input co-ordinates and create surface way-points.
Particularly if we are going to continue hunting for landfall alien sites.
We do? Has anyone posted more than "in some of the big blast craters" because I'm interested in finding more, and would appreciate a link to pointers on finding them!
Cheers.
Just got in and catching up - first congrats to Zorbaq on the second ruins.
While a seeming copy/paste of the ruins might seem dissapointing, I wonder if it's all "fractal" ? - a repeating pattern like a Sierpinski triangle - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierpinski_triangle#/media/File:Sierpinski_triangle.svg
Each base a replica of the other and all laid out in a repeating pattern - in which case with two - we might be able to predict the third ? (assuming the two are part of the same "sub-cell" ).
While a seeming copy/paste of the ruins might seem dissapointing, I wonder if it's all "fractal" ? - a repeating pattern like a Sierpinski triangle - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierpinski_triangle#/media/File:Sierpinski_triangle.svg
Each base a replica of the other and all laid out in a repeating pattern - in which case with two - we might be able to predict the third ? (assuming the two are part of the same "sub-cell" ).
On my way to test that (even if already try it at site alpha and nothing hapened).
By the way, is this one count ? :
Just a joke to keep relaxed
I'm pretty sure thats where it will be (traked iamgingerbear by winging up and locking onto him as he super-cruised along the moons orbit track), directly opposite the rising point having gone pretty much right overhead - parallel to and barely offset from Barnards Loop, just a distance behind it - possibly drawing level as it set today.
Wait... it hasn't happened yet!
I've been out all evening running a tabletop game, I thought I would miss it.
Woot!
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went to visit the "Deja Vu" Ruins.
Was listening to Interstellar Soundtrack. Timed near perfectly for the reveal lol
Made a quick Shadowplay capture for ya'll.
I play in Occulus Rift; apologies for the bumpyness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggnpck7SEuc&feature=youtu.be
Was listening to Interstellar Soundtrack. Timed near perfectly for the reveal lol
Made a quick Shadowplay capture for ya'll.
I play in Occulus Rift; apologies for the bumpyness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggnpck7SEuc&feature=youtu.be
I've been saying this since I started getting info from Ram Tah whilst scanning last weekend - that basically everything - barnacles, UA's, UP's, the hyperdiction ships, the ruins, the Guardians - its all Thargoids. All of it. Yes I am the alien meme guy only saying Thargoids instead!
At the second site it appears thats what we have, see here.
I've just caught up on this runaway threadnaught after being afk for 4 hoursd or so, and haven't seen anyone post the actual setting point for the moon at the 2nd site yet. Hopefully its where I pointed
So if your wingmate-following prediction is correct, the beta site has moon rise at the small circle but moon set in a different location (not the large circle denoted by the pink line, but offset to the green line virtually 180° track)?
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So this site has a moon as well. As I had mentioned before and told it was irrelevant, does the site in relation to the moon(and any other points Barnard's Loop etc) tell us anything?
Ah.. isn't this bad news? I was hoping the rise and set would match the large and small circular structures of the site (as the first ruins do, right?) as that would make a pattern and we could use that to determine the exact lat/long of any potential ruins based on the path of it's moon and -30 latitude.
On my way to test that (even if already try it at site alpha and nothing hapened).
By the way, is this one count ? :
Just a joke to keep relaxed
Nice to see there is a difference between site Alpha and site Deja Vu, even if it's only a new bug
I think this puzzle is similar to RPG
to open the gate, it is necessary to kill the wolf that got the key.
Why 18 items are always in the same place?
And the roads similar to a motherboard.
We need to close the electrical circuit.
http://imgur.com/m3quUY2
Just saying again why not keep an open mind before we rule out simple answers
And are we searching the other systems planets with moons now?
With 2 CMDRs it should be pretty easy - one on the surface looking up following the LAT line, locked onto the other who super-cruises the moons orbit path, where the two courses cross, hopefully site 3!
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I think we can still use it. Both moons orbit up from the small circle and down through the large circle on the ruins - not in the same exact spots, but within the same area of horizon.
this actually makes alot of sense
Since it's been shown that moons rise and set relative to the circles on the ruins site getting the relationship between the moons ground track and the ruins on the existing sites will help us identify the particular relationship.
We can then use this offset on other systems with moons to identify a search path.
Basically we can get the great circle path of the moon
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_circle
Then offset it relative to the orbital direction and identify the small circle that runs parallel to it on the side that would result in it rising at the correct circle and setting at the other circle.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circ...sphere#/search
To facilitate that I've taken the liberty to create the following google sheet to gather the necessary latitude and longitude points in a given time. Using these I can identify the great circle paths between them and their points. And then offset those to get the parallel track for the ruins.
Once we gather this data for the existing sites we can better correlate the angle of the ruins to the moons so we can derive the proper angle and track on the other landable bodies with moons for a search for new sites.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...Br2G2M4gjxOKsA
Isnt this an over complication of the issue?
To do this all you have to do is approach the planet you want to search. Make sure orbit lines are ON. Then align yourself with the orbit of the corresponding moon that circles the planet. Drop down onto the planet and fly along the heading of the orbit line of the moon. ?? Or am I missing something here??
We can then use this offset on other systems with moons to identify a search path.
Basically we can get the great circle path of the moon
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_circle
Then offset it relative to the orbital direction and identify the small circle that runs parallel to it on the side that would result in it rising at the correct circle and setting at the other circle.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circ...sphere#/search
To facilitate that I've taken the liberty to create the following google sheet to gather the necessary latitude and longitude points in a given time. Using these I can identify the great circle paths between them and their points. And then offset those to get the parallel track for the ruins.
Once we gather this data for the existing sites we can better correlate the angle of the ruins to the moons so we can derive the proper angle and track on the other landable bodies with moons for a search for new sites.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...Br2G2M4gjxOKsA
Isnt this an over complication of the issue?
To do this all you have to do is approach the planet you want to search. Make sure orbit lines are ON. Then align yourself with the orbit of the corresponding moon that circles the planet. Drop down onto the planet and fly along the heading of the orbit line of the moon. ?? Or am I missing something here??
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Disclaimer: Wall of text <snip for brevity, I did read it all
Thanks for explaining your theory, much appreciated. If i use the 'correct' artifact what will I see - what changes? Thanks!
The trouble is, with just a fixed "rising" point and an apparently variable "setting" point it seems less likely that a mathematical approach will work.
We'd need two easily defined reference points to work with, and it seems we only have one (moon rise above small mound). Solutions for that problem (allowing the site to be rotated as necessary) are virtually unlimited for all surface points where the moon can be seen to rise aren't they?
o7
We'd need two easily defined reference points to work with, and it seems we only have one (moon rise above small mound). Solutions for that problem (allowing the site to be rotated as necessary) are virtually unlimited for all surface points where the moon can be seen to rise aren't they?
o7
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