A Final Plea to Frontier for Longer Hairstyles

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Disclaimer: I've not read every page, so my opinion may be void.

This is a Holo-Me depiction of your character. Zero-G is irrelevant. Helmets are irrelevant. Therefore any argument made about hair in helmets is null and void.

Can we have the real, technical reason why we can't have long hair now please?

They havent said the specific reason but its technical as per what i gather from ED's edit to his response to me, I suspect its based on what they mentioned in the livestream regarding technical issues to it.
 
Disclaimer: I've not read every page, so my opinion may be void.

This is a Holo-Me depiction of your character. Zero-G is irrelevant. Helmets are irrelevant. Therefore any argument made about hair in helmets is null and void.

Can we have the real, technical reason why we can't have long hair now please?

It has been given already by devs on this thread.

If you want to follow dev posts use ED dev tracker https://elitedevtracker.com/
 
Hi everyone,

We really want to give you as many options as possible when creating characters. Unfortunately long hair is something we are unable to support from a technical standpoint.
Creating realistic looking long hair that behaves credibly both in normal gravity and in zero g, would take a lot of time and resources that we felt were better spent elsewhere.

It simply wouldn't have hit the quality bar that we want to achieve with everything we put in to Elite Dangerous.

From a lore perspective, a lot of spacers would have short hair to fit within their helmets, and to behave in zero g so they don't have their vision blocked.

That said we would like to add further styles in future releases that convey pinned-up hair, or long hair tied back.

Also - In the current build both genders have a pony tail, and there is a shoulder-length bob for females.

Thanks.
Just to be clear. The Holo-Me is a representation hologram of what you're going to look like. It then applies it to your Commander, who is a real person sitting in the chair.
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Not really. Even looked at from the simple point of view of supporting Frontier to push ED on through 'already awesome' land .. and into 'utterly epic' territory? I don't see this as a complaint thread .. it's a please. A plea.

We all know Frontier will deny all knoweldge but 'might' listen and I vote (as you know) for seeing a racer suit in the store soon as possible if it helps push the development ever forward.

Plus why not? My avatar will have tied up hair (plus outrageous moustache of course!!), maybe for shore leave it can hang down? Doesn't hurt anyone imo, to encourage the small team that developed HoloMe, not to disband right way but, if possible, to ... keep going!?

:D

Very early on in this thread I called this plea for longer hair a purely "emotional" request. I would love the option to have this added, but only if it was part of the devs original plans for ED. The thread became down right disrespectful to the team that worked for over a year on this and did an excellent job who then also shared this with us before 2.3 beta. Mods should close this thread. Like I said I hope Momoka and Darkfyre dont quit, but I will hold the disrespectful others to thier word, when they threatened to do the same. lol
 
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Very early on in this thread I called this plea for longer hair a purely "emotional" request. I would love the option to have this added, but only if it was part of the devs original plans for ED. The thread became down right disrespectful to the team that worked for over a year on this and did an excellent job who then also shared this with us before 2.3 beta. Mods should close this thread. Like I said I hope Momoka and Darkfyre dont quit, but I will hold the disrespectful others to thier word, when they threatened to do the same. lol

Vrseven, I think the more important point is from the roleplay point of view and from what Ed said to me and per his edit to that, its purely technical rather than rp that we won't have tied back long hair for example.
 
So basically you are magically transformed into whatever you create in the Holo-Me editor, by what? Holographic Space Beauticians who appear from nowhere and resculpt your FACE?

IF they're giving this reason (which I HAD read TYVM, I was hoping there was a more technical one without the in-game reasoning), then I can only hope it's so they can be ready for when commanders leave their airlocks.

Otherwise it's very lame as every game I have ever played with some form of character creation - with headwear- has long hair. Look at Skyrim for a recent example.
 
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So basically you are magically transformed into whatever you create in the Holo-Me editor, by what? Holographic Space Beauticians who appear from nowhere and resculpt your FACE?

Yes. And what's more, you can change your looks at any time, without leaving your ship. You can even instantly change genders at any time.

Which is why I find all the arguments in this thread about 'realism' to be extremely out of place.
 
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Vrseven, I think the more important point is from the roleplay point of view and from what Ed said to me and per his edit to that, its purely technical rather than rp that we won't have tied back long hair for example.

Yes. Purely Roleplay for posters asking for LongHairTM and 99.9% technical limitations for everyone else, that are looking at the big picture. I say 99.9% because it CAN be done...but at what cost.....at what....cost. lol
 
But we are enough aware what is real techincal issue and what is lazy explanation. There are grown up peoples who are working as programmers or SI engineers :)

No.

I do not agree with your attempt to control the narrative here.

Your solution is awful. If static, unmoving long hair is implemented, I and many, many others will think it looks terrible. It will become a running joke that with everything else looking so good, "your hair looks like an ice cream". I've played plenty of games where static hair was implemented and it always looked awful to me. That is my opinion, for what it's worth, on what I consider a pretty inconsequential issue.

The answer given made it clear that they will not be able to implement long hair to the standard they would be happy with, not without pouring an enormous quantity of developer resources and time that they feel is more usefully spent elsewhere.

This is their game, and their vision. I'm happy to respect that.

I'm also happy to respect your personal preference that static hair works, and is fine, even if I express a completely contrary preference.

What really isn't okay is you trying to dismiss their very clear response with an accusation that they are both deceptive and lazy, just in order to sneak your preference in as fact through the back door. If nothing else, calling Frontier lazy isn't just poor judgement, it's utterly laughable. Do you really think that's going to fool anyone, let alone Frontier?

Also, do you think calling Frontier lazy and liars is a good way to make your argument over an entirely cosmetic feature in what is in the end a digital toy? I thought you just said you were a grown-up. Being an adult, is this a good way to engage with someone you are trying to persuade?
 
Of all the things that need changing, improving and adding I will be honest. This is BOTTOM of the list. lol!

What's next? Space hairy legs?
 
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I don't want to sound disrespectful but this thread is bizarre. 25 pages of people arguing about how their game will be ruined if a certain facet of a new feature isn't included. A feature that hasn't even existed for the thousands of hours we've already been enjoying it?

Being a Dev must be a Sisyphean task, I don't envy them.


Very few people saying their game would be ruined without long hair, but lots of people explaining why it is necessary their game is ruined.

Personally, I don't care, long hair would be nice, but I applaud what has been achieved already.
 
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I feel the limited choice in groin size is not reflecting my RL character and I feel this should be added.

Oh wait, that's not how it's done. Sorry.

THIS IS A PLEA. FRONTIER YOU MUST DO THIS OR MY GAME IS RUINED.
 
yes let people have long hair option, but if their canopy goes they die instantly, as their helmet won't create a seal.

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I feel the limited choice in groin size is not reflecting my RL character and I feel this should be added.

Oh wait, that's not how it's done. Sorry.

THIS IS A PLEA. FRONTIER YOU MUST DO THIS OR MY GAME IS RUINED.

Should it be smaller then?
 
You're right it can be done with some additional animations and handled with some extra space suit tech. I suspect that most space pilots however would take the practical route and just cut their hair instead of investing in said tech. It looks like FD didn't think this was a priority and I can see why.

I'm not against FD adding it. They certainly can, it's their game. It's pretty easy to understand why it was omitted though and I don't really see how it's a big deal considering all the options they are including.
The thing is that it actually isn't a big deal for FD to add longer hair at some point. They've already done the hard work so it's no big deal for them to give us more options. That's how I see it and I support the OP in their desire to put this across to FD and hope for the best.

As for what is practical in 3303. People in Elite Dangerous can change their skin colour, hair colour, eye colour and even their gender at the drop of a hat. We can paint our huge ships in less than 2 seconds, we can operate giant battleships with a total crew of 1 at the helm, we can project a Holo-me of ourselves instead of finding a mirror - most technology as we know it is an absolutely trivial part of life in ED's 3303.

The whole purpose of how we use technology is to make our lives easier, faster, more effficient, etc. Humans are completely in love with playing around with our technological prowess and in a technological age such as ED's 'investing' in tech that accomodates your sense of fashion requires no effort at all. It's so trivial a matter in fact that the Remlock space suit system probably comes with these personalisation features as standard.
 
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