If lateral thrust is mapped to a secondary stick, does it give you analogue control over it? As in, instead of just turning it on/off, can you control by how much it turns on/of, as with conventional throttle? This is what makes it feel like a deal-breaker to me. If not, I'm more tempted to get the HOTAS system adn then maybe also get a secondary stick at a much later time.
To HOTAS Or Dual Stick?
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I have done both dual stick and HOTAS and I must say that, at least for me, after the steep learning curve, dual sticks won out. I get more buttons and axes that I can use for precise analog control. However, for dual stick you will want to have a keybind for throttle just so you don't have to hold one axis for an entire long flight but still want to monitor the progress.
I will try dual sticks one of these days, but I'd say a throttle with an analog thumbstick would do the trick fairly well.
I'd love to see a really nice high end throttle, though, with a magnetic sensor thumbstick, so it's properly accurate. If only I were techy enough to know how to change over ot magnetic for my CH Pro...
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I'd love to see a really nice high end throttle, though, with a magnetic sensor thumbstick, so it's properly accurate. If only I were techy enough to know how to change over ot magnetic for my CH Pro...
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Joystick and 3D mouse is the most intuitive control scheme I've found.
I've done kb/m, joystick and G13, console style joypad, HOTAS, and dual sticks. Having three rotation axes on one hand and three properl translation axes on the other (you'll have to use twist for one of the axes on the translation stick) feels really natural.
I've done kb/m, joystick and G13, console style joypad, HOTAS, and dual sticks. Having three rotation axes on one hand and three properl translation axes on the other (you'll have to use twist for one of the axes on the translation stick) feels really natural.
Two Saitek Cyborg Evo joysticks might do the job. They are symmetrical sticks with a reversible palm rest for left handed, throttle control and the thumb control head can change pitch and rotation for the desired angle. Discontinued but I see lots of them on eBay cheap. I've owned one for a decade and it has never failed...unlike their X-55 product.
If left handed going to a right handed HOTAS works fine. I'm LH but after 2 hours of game play it felt totally normal and going back to a LH stick seemed strange! As for two joysticks that also seems strange...but maybe in two hours...
If left handed going to a right handed HOTAS works fine. I'm LH but after 2 hours of game play it felt totally normal and going back to a LH stick seemed strange! As for two joysticks that also seems strange...but maybe in two hours...
Dual sticks here and couldnt go back now. Warthog and t16000m currently but will very soon be a left handed warthog (so dual warthogs)
Left stick is for occaisional buttons mostly, with yaw on x axis and thrust forward back on the y axis. Landing overrides i have thrust up dn and sideways on x y axis with thrust forward back on right stick y axis.
Left stick is for occaisional buttons mostly, with yaw on x axis and thrust forward back on the y axis. Landing overrides i have thrust up dn and sideways on x y axis with thrust forward back on right stick y axis.
X 52 Pro here.. !8 weeks of game time ( 2,5 years since new), still going strong, modded with 3 extra buttons in thruster handle, controlled by HID macro. (google it, clever program, lets you uniquely identify each mouse attached).
When setup dies I will get another.
Cheers Cmdr's
When setup dies I will get another.
Cheers Cmdr's
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You might want to look in to head tracking as well.
I use a Delan Clip http://www.delanengineering.com/. It's an inexpensive solution which will give you a much greater sense of immersion and free up your hat switch for other uses.
I use a Delan Clip http://www.delanengineering.com/. It's an inexpensive solution which will give you a much greater sense of immersion and free up your hat switch for other uses.
I prefer the dual stick approach. I've got a t16000 on the left (lateral thrusters on X/Y + throttle control on hat switch + roll on twist + various utilities), and a CH Fighterstick on the right (Pitch/Yaw on X/Y + weapon/targeting controls + pip management). It's a very intuitive setup. Position controls on the left, orientation controls on the right.
As a lefty I had to rely on dual joystick control system. T16000 for left hand (roll, pitch, yaw, primary fire), Logitech Attack3 for right hand (x-y thrust, digital throttle on the top buttons, secondary fire). But I have to say that I'm not happy with this system, expecially with the throttle control. So I ended playing ED with a joystick in my left hand and the keyboard in my right hand. Now I'm seriously considering to buy a HOTAS and fly my ships right handed. It will take some time, but I'm shure it will feel more natural. HOTAS seems to be the way to play ED 100%.
You're lucky yours works.
The hardware on my X52 Pro was excellent, but the drivers were so corrupt that they caused blue-screens so regularly you could set your watch by them. Had to switch to the T.16000 and TWCS throttle in the end. Doesn't feel anywhere near as nice, but it works and has more buttons and hats. I still have the X52 Pro, set aside in the hopes that someday Saitek will make better drivers for it.
Saitek used to be glorious, but then MadCatz bought them and everything went to hell. Hopefully Logitech will be kind to them.
Not tried dual stick...But i do have Track IR for the looking around bit and 3 monitors setup. I have Occulus Rift but even the newest version the resolution is just to low, prefer 3 screens and beauty all round rather than low rest pixels
Did you adjust the supersampling or HMD image quality in the graphics settings? It looks amazing at higher settings on the Rift. The default VR settings are rubbish.
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Not sure, but i'll certainly give it ago tonight. Cheers buddy.