Today, I did the unthinkable.

[Minonian]

*shrugs*

Personally, I just call it playing the game.

He took a risk by being in Open, and last night, he drew the short straw.

Another excuse to justify your behavior. Sadly? We don't care about it, because the choice was yours to attack and kill him.

My words form another topic? "We are all there to have fun, but we are not there so the griefers, and PVP-ers have fun at our expense!"
So sorry my boy! But the fact he was in open does not means he was in open so you can hunt him down!

 

[Iskariot]

Went to the current Military Militia CG.

Skulked the system for a bit... A player in a Viper Mk IV appeared on the contacts.

"People fly these as multi-role ships. He might have cargo." I said to myself.

Swooped behind him. "Prepare for robbery." I sent him. Then I pulled the trigger on interdiction.

He fought back at the attack. But I out-flew him. Soon enough, we were spiralling through normal space.

"STOP FOR SCAN" I told him. But before I could send the transmission, he opened fire. I deployed hardpoints, he rammed me. To his rude surprise, my armoured tank of a Cobra fared better from his ram.

He started firing missiles. I engaged silent running. I brought his Hull down to 10%...

At this point, he tried to run. But, after opening fire on me, I decided I wasn't going to let him get away with it.

I switched to my cannon, boosted behind him... “target destroyed". I committed murder... And, it feels good.

I'm not even joking. I beat him in fair PvP, a Cobra vs a Viper... He brought it on himself. Had he stopped for scan...

This is a dark path I'm walking... And it's the best decision I ever made.

The only thing that surprised me in this story is that you expected a Viper MK IV to be a cargo carrying vessel.
You might be right to expect it, for all I know, but it would never have crossed my mind to haul cargo in my Viper IV.
And if I were of the pirating kind I would have never intercepted a Viper.
More often than not Vipers won't be carrying cargo, I presume.

I think you played your pirate role in the appropriate way.
So I won't get into that discussion.
Or perhaps I do: I feel Piracy is a legit role in this game. I would never pirate humans myself though.

 

[Minonian]

The only thing that surprised me in this story is that you expected a Viper MK IV to be a cargo carrying vessel.

Hehh! Good point. Even if he was honestly pirating, this is just stupid.

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I was going to write a sensible response to address the 'issues' you raise.

However, have a gif instead that portrays my feelings.

https://media.giphy.com/media/UzZnKDf6OABZC/giphy.gif

You know, if you draw a gun, you do better if you serious about it! Because if the other takes seriously, while you don't, and just throwing empty threats around? Once this happened? Game on!

The other half of my post? I did this, not just once... And keep doing it.

 

[Goose4291]

Another excuse to justify your behavior. Sadly? We don't care about it, because the choice was yours to attack and kill him.

My words form another topic? "We are all there to have fun, but we are not there so the griefers, and PVP-ers have fun at our expense!"
So sorry my boy! But the fact he was in open does not means he was in open so you can hunt him down!

Im really enjoying how one of this forums PvE advocates is now having the full on ire of the PvE 'community' because they shot someone. Once.

 

[wulfson]

I play exclusively in open ironman, which takes piracy into another level for the one on the receiving end. I participated in the two current CGs and was interdicted by pirates some 12 times. Two of those interdictions were successful, I managed to high wake from the others with my T6. One story here as the last one was particularly tense as the pirate shot out my thrusters maybe a second before high wake (must have been a skillful shot). I was there just helplessly rotating waiting to be shot to pieces and already thinking about 1000 Cr and a Sidewinder. The pirate guided me towards restarting/repairing systems and handing over 40% of my cargo. I proceeded to jettison my cargo, however I have mapped my change menu buttons and low/high wake operations on a single hat and of course I somehow unintentionally pressed the wrong one...again a veil of shots rained on my stricken T6, knocking thrusters and other systems down - now I knew I was truly f*cked up, I immediately stopped the charge and at some 30% of my hull, the pirate stopped his fire, demanding some more cargo - this was a moment when I gladly gave him more than he demanded, took a deep breath and limped my half dead T6 to the station.

It was a thrilling experience, one you can get only in full open, outrunning/outsmarting AI pirates is really a piece of cake compared to the real ones. I take flying in the open as a challenge, although it sometimes is not very pleasant, one looks upon it differently after some time...

To relate to OP, maybe you should have shot his thrusters and demand some more cargo for all the inconvenience

 

[smiths121]

Another excuse to justify your behavior. Sadly? We don't care about it, because the choice was yours to attack and kill him.

My words form another topic? "We are all there to have fun, but we are not there so the griefers, and PVP-ers have fun at our expense!"
So sorry my boy! But the fact he was in open does not means he was in open so you can hunt him down!

The Fact he was in open does means he was in open so you can hunt him down!

The current ruleset of Open explicitly allows this activity. It gives a bounty to the aggressor, that progresses from small if damage to larger if the target is destroyed.
That is game mechanics dealling with the interaction, right there. You can argue, and this forum has done so ..... a lot that the Punishment does not fit the crime, but your statement is entirely untrue it is confusing your moral outrage and opinion with fact, which does make it difficult to debate.

My view of the OP is he considered letting the mark go on 10% hull, but because of the actions of the mark, decided to finish him off. Not seeing to much wrong there, he is effectively barred from the CG for a week or risk being in system wanted - which is a bit annoying at 6K level, particularly in a Cobra. The result of the incident is more players can go about doing the CG with onel less opportunist. For me C & P doing its job. I'm ignoring the suicidewinder possibility.

Simon

 

[CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost]

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I'm sorry, but there is no salt to be mined form me in this thread. If you need salt so desperately, go to a grocery store and buy a few kilos.

I have no problem with the OP killing a CMDR. I just think it's funny that the OP apparently tries to justify what he did to himself.
Makes the OP look like a rather weak pirate.

 

[Smecca is BMFE]

Its painfully obvious that everyone in the "this is your fault, you shouldn't have interdicted him, and you didn't have to kill him" crowd have never had to defend their own life before. It's tantamount to blaming a soldier for firing at the enemy, because he didn't have to enlist in the first place.

The frame shift drive interdictor is in the game for a reason. Please stop drinking salty carebear tea because other players actually use it

 

[rrobes]

If you commit murder, own it. There are no excuses or justifications, you committed the act willfully. You are a murderer who pirates, and it is a definition, not meant as an insult, role play. If you can work w/ that, proceed.

The game rewards murder, the punishment is a big yawn.

There are those that condone and those that condemn.

And it has all been said before.

BTW, the combat OP described seemed even to me, so no seal clubbing here.

 

[Minonian]

The Fact he was in open does means he was in open so you can hunt him down!

Sorry! griefing is not allowed.

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skip

have your fun than, until you tick me off after that, we shall see who have the last laugh?

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If you commit murder, own it. There are no excuses or justifications, you committed the act willfully. You are a murderer who pirates, and it is a definition, not meant as an insult, role play. If you can work w/ that, proceed.

The game rewards murder, the punishment is a big yawn.

There are those that condone and those that condemn.

And it has all been said before.

BTW, the combat OP described seemed even to me, so no seal clubbing here.

That's right.

Furthermore, i don't know what's the exact laws around the others nation? But in my home, under direct threat (can be) enough to justify self defense (means equal or lesser force, than the threat). Now, we don't know what was the victim intentions was how far he was willing to go? But we know un1corn unnecessarily destroyed him, since in the moment he decided to run, the fight was over.
This is the true coup de grace, and not to fire on the enemy who threatens you.

He is guilty as charged, and no amount of yammering can change this.

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Its painfully obvious that everyone in the "this is your fault, you shouldn't have interdicted him, and you didn't have to kill him" crowd have never had to defend their own life before. It's tantamount to blaming a soldier for firing at the enemy, because he didn't have to enlist in the first place.

The frame shift drive interdictor is in the game for a reason. Please stop drinking salty carebear tea because other players actually use it

Here comes the mob, trying to justify his ill deeds. Do we give a damn about their patehitic excuses, what they are saying knowing they are wrong, so they cannot be convinced otherwise?
I think not...

 

[Cwini]

Nice selective quoting, and cutting out the bit where I said I sent him a hail to stop.

Thing is, he did bring it on himself. Had he stopped for a scan like I asked, and complied... He would have lived. But no, he tries to kill me. That was his choice. And he chose poorly.

*shrugs*

forgive spelling errors - mobile

please don't misunderstand my comments - YOU wanted the the confrontation and that's ok .. i think this game needs it and i welcome the experience ... however your victim didn't bring it on themselves, you did ... their mistake was not complying.

please don't stop being a bad guy

 

[Deleted member 110222]

forgive spelling errors - mobile

please don't misunderstand my comments - YOU wanted the the confrontation and that's ok .. i think this game needs it and i welcome the experience ... however your victim didn't bring it on themselves, you did ... their mistake was not complying.

please don't stop being a bad guy

I won't stop. Fact is, I've never had this much fun. Being a criminal in this galaxy is unbelievably fun.

More people should try it! And remember, THIS IS JUST A GAME GUYS! I didn't track his IP so I could knock on his door with a hammer in hand.

I just ruddy played the game.

 

[Wolf Starslayer]

I won't stop. Fact is, I've never had this much fun. Being a criminal in this galaxy is unbelievably fun.

More people should try it! And remember, THIS IS JUST A GAME GUYS! I didn't track his IP so I could knock on his door with a hammer in hand.

I just ruddy played the game.

But it's so simple man, it's like easy mode. No real security with any teeth and avoidable bounties and zero consequences for doing it. I fancied a go at 'pirate' career but won't bother myself till there's something to it and I can actually feel like a wanted criminal.

 

[Deleted member 110222]

But it's so simple man, it's like easy mode. No real security with any teeth and avoidable bounties and zero consequences for doing it. I fancied a go at 'pirate' career but won't bother myself till there's something to it and I can actually feel like a wanted criminal.

Trust me, I want that too.

The constant stream of bounty hunters NPC's is Not enough for me.

I want my ED career to be a hardship, a thrill, a challenge.

Still, more challenging to do PvP piracy in its current form then it is to just go Ababa trading like a lot of players do.

I want tougher smuggling, tougher robbing, tougher evasion... I want to be under constant pressure. With the right changes to the C&P system, crime has the potential to be an incredibly involving way to play.

 

[jasonbarron]

Now you know the truth about the community bias, Un1k0rn. It's no big deal, you just have to understand where people are coming from and accept it. You're a "bad guy" now as far as the bulk of the forum community is concerned and there's simply no going back. Trust me, you don't want to, either. Once you get to the point where you're learning new skills and getting good at it, maybe joining a PvP group or something, you'll be seeing this game in a completely new light. My advice is to embrace this and walk right on through the door without looking back. Notice that I'm not saying you have to become a villain, plenty of players such as myself play the "good guy," just know full well that you will have branded yourself a predator...and herbivores will never trust you in the herd ever again. Just accept it and move on with things.

 

[Minonian]

Than i think we must give this to you guys right? After all if this is what you all yearning for?

Let's see how well you can handle. If the situation is turns like this? I can tell you there is always some die hard people, but most of em, when the odds turn this much against them, just quit.
So... I think we must give you boys instead what you really want, what you wished for. OK?

 

[Deleted member 110222]

Now you know the truth about the community bias, Un1k0rn. It's no big deal, you just have to understand where people are coming from and accept it. You're a "bad guy" now and there's simply no going back. Trust me, you don't want to, either. Once you get to the point where you're learning new skills and getting good at it, maybe joining a PvP group or something, you'll be seing this game in a completely new light. My advice is to embrace this and walk right on through the door without looking back. Notice that I'm not saying you have to become a villain, plenty of players such as myslef play the "good guy," just know full well that you will have branded yourself a predator...and herbavores will never trust you in the herd ever again. Just accept it and move on with things.

I'm pretty comfortable with it, truth be told. I've been thinking of piracy many times since I first played in 2015... Only just found the balls to try though. Now that I have, I love it. This side of the game is amazing. Makes the old stuff seem so dull.

 

[Minonian]

Now you know the truth about the community bias, Un1k0rn. It's no big deal, you just have to understand where people are coming from and accept it. You're a "bad guy" now as far as the bulk of the forum community is concerned and there's simply no going back. Trust me, you don't want to, either. Once you get to the point where you're learning new skills and getting good at it, maybe joining a PvP group or something, you'll be seeing this game in a completely new light. My advice is to embrace this and walk right on through the door without looking back. Notice that I'm not saying you have to become a villain, plenty of players such as myself play the "good guy," just know full well that you will have branded yourself a predator...and herbivores will never trust you in the herd ever again. Just accept it and move on with things.

Yeah you got this right. All of it. And as i said i don't have problem with PVP but i do have problems with peoples who don't know the limits, have no self-restraints. Actually? A lot!

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I'm pretty comfortable with it, truth be told. I've been thinking of piracy many times since I first played in 2015... Only just found the balls to try though. Now that I have, I love it. This side of the game is amazing. Makes the old stuff seem so dull.

Ah, the taste of adrenaline. Sweet isn't it? But keep in mind, adrenaline also a drug, and turn you dependent, as a man who have the tendency to go loco in biking, and in a lot of other things, i'm very well aware of this.
So my suggestion? Think twice how you get your daily does, of your poison. Because it's not necessary to hurt others so you can have it and also, again? Limit your dose.

 

[jasonbarron]

I'm pretty comfortable with it, truth be told. I've been thinking of piracy many times since I first played in 2015... Only just found the balls to try though. Now that I have, I love it. This side of the game is amazing. Makes the old stuff seem so dull.

Glad to hear it. PvP can be transformational for many. I played for about 1700 hours without touching combat, earning Elite both in Trade as well as Exploration. After 2.1 shipped I developed a new interest in the combat due to the crazy aggressive NPC's finally piquing my interest. I was sitting at 6% Expert rating, so I REALLY didn't know much, but I dove in headfirst and it wasn't long before I was meeting other players with similar tatses willing to teach me. From there it's just been one fun activity after another with PvP forming a new foundation upon which I can easily see myself spending another 1700 hours. You're on the cusp of a great adventure, and part of that is making new friends with shared interests. Enjoy the new territory!

 

[Kostis]

There's too much psycho-babble going on in this thread. OP won a 1v1 fair and square, and that's all there is to it.