Hardware & Technical GTX 1080 TI coming soon

Titan XP is upwards of 30% faster than the 1080 in many games at GPU limited settings.

The 1080 Ti is also likely to not be much slower than the Titan XP, if at all, from the recently announced specifications, at least at stock.
Allegedly it's to be slightly quicker. We'll have to wait and see of course.

Higher clock speeds out of the box so perhaps less headroom for overclocking unlike the Titan XP.
 
Does Elite favour the AMD or Nvidia GPUs atm or is it hardware agnostic in that respect?

Doesn't seem to be any difference, however the nvidia logo appears on the website, the AMD does not. Make of that what you will.

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I mean the issue with AMD is they've never really tried to push for the very highest end possible GPUs and have always had a semblance of being value for money about them (at least for the past 4 or so years). Then people on a budget pick one up, expect it to perform as well as a top-tier Nvidia card and defend it until the death because they spent $400+ on it

There's nothing wrong with AMD, but the crossover where they're in direct competition with Nvidia has always been up to the '70 cards and generally not any further. I don't expect Vega to be any different, but I hope I'm proven wrong. Why people rally around a company that's not had viable products for 3+ years now is surprising to me. Of course it's reasonable to want them in the marketplace for the prospect of competition, but there are many that treat them as the second coming. The 1070s, 1060s and 1050s are due for a price drop soon and the 1080s can be had very reasonably not (relatively speaking). If you're in the EU though the 1080 Ti is stupidly priced and I couldn't quite justify 35% extra cost for only 20% performance increase when it's more like 25% extra for 20% performance increase in the US.
 
I mean the issue with AMD is they've never really tried to push for the very highest end possible GPUs and have always had a semblance of being value for money about them (at least for the past 4 or so years). Then people on a budget pick one up, expect it to perform as well as a top-tier Nvidia card and defend it until the death because they spent $400+ on it

There's nothing wrong with AMD, but the crossover where they're in direct competition with Nvidia has always been up to the '70 cards and generally not any further. I don't expect Vega to be any different, but I hope I'm proven wrong. Why people rally around a company that's not had viable products for 3+ years now is surprising to me. Of course it's reasonable to want them in the marketplace for the prospect of competition, but there are many that treat them as the second coming. The 1070s, 1060s and 1050s are due for a price drop soon and the 1080s can be had very reasonably not (relatively speaking). If you're in the EU though the 1080 Ti is stupidly priced and I couldn't quite justify 35% extra cost for only 20% performance increase when it's more like 25% extra for 20% performance increase in the US.

I know-- I never understood the AMD fan boys. their processors haven't been relevant since the Netburst debacle days, but those days are long gone. A few years ago their one saving grace was that you could throw together a semi-decent rig using AMD parts that would play 1080 games at medium settings for like $700, but you could easily do that with Intel, and still maintain a viable upgrade path. There just isn't any reason these days -- price or otherwise-- to swallow the garbage AMD is shilling. Unless you want a nice spot-heater for your office -- they never did manage to get their heat issues under control./
 
I'm eyeing this new 1080ti, and I have a question. I'm not really a tweaker so I don't really care about OC. I'm thinking of buying a founders edition card. What about the noise? Does it get loud under load? I like my rig as quiet as possible... What would you advise, get a FE or wait for another version with an open 2 or 3 fan cooler? (Thinking EVGA or MSI)
Thanx,
CMDR Blian
 
I'm eyeing this new 1080ti, and I have a question. I'm not really a tweaker so I don't really care about OC. I'm thinking of buying a founders edition card. What about the noise? Does it get loud under load? I like my rig as quiet as possible... What would you advise, get a FE or wait for another version with an open 2 or 3 fan cooler? (Thinking EVGA or MSI)
Thanx,
CMDR Blian

I can't really judge how loud the card is personally - I play in a room with a fair bit of ambient noise, and since I use voiceattack with Elite I'm wearing headphones. That having been said, if you want a quiet card you should consider getting the FE and then just add an AIO aftermarket water cooler to it. I plan on doing so myself soonish, since I like to not have to worry about heat.

I moved from a tri-fire 290x setup to this single 1080ti. Game is MUCH smoother now, and I can't complain about the performance. Playing on Ultra preset with 3x30" monitors (resolution = 4800x2560 ), I get a very stable 74-78 fps during a docking operation. Much higher in most other situations, but docking always seemed to be the thing my old gpus hated the most.

If I manually play with the gpu fan I can *just* start to hear it once it hits 63%. That's with the case under my desk but the side panel removed. 70% I can hear it if I listen for it, but it's not intrusive at all. 80% it's noticeable but not distractingly so. And if I wear my headset I can't hear it all all at 100%

Now none of that might apply to your setup though. I'm in a fairly noisy room, right next to an open window. Also, when I first set up my trifire 290x GPU's I hadn't watercooled them yet and I'm pretty sure the fans from those things blew out my eardrums. ;)

In all seriousness though, the fan doesn't seem too bad to me. I was actually quite worried about it since I'm not used to air cooling anymore, but the stock cooler does seem to do a good job at keeping heat in check without sounding like your on the flight desk of an aircraft carrier.

dak
 
I'm eyeing this new 1080ti, and I have a question. I'm not really a tweaker so I don't really care about OC. I'm thinking of buying a founders edition card. What about the noise? Does it get loud under load? I like my rig as quiet as possible... What would you advise, get a FE or wait for another version with an open 2 or 3 fan cooler? (Thinking EVGA or MSI)
Thanx,
CMDR Blian

I have titans, which are more or less the same the TI, except the TI's have better cooling. I can tell you that on games like SC, the fan will spin up to around 50 or 60, you can definitely hear it, but it's not an annoying high pitched "whriing" like AMDs--- its more the "woshing" sound of pushing air (it that makes sense). Since the TI is more efficient than the titan, I'd imagine it would be similar, but will not spin up quite as much.
On less graphically demanding games like e:d, the cards barely spin up.

If you're looking for quiet, I would definitely wait for the after market version. I added EVGA after market AIO liquid coolers to my cards, and they are DEAD silent-- even when doing synthetic benchmarks, like 3d strike.

In between stock and water cooling, you could try vendor cards, like evga super cooler.. which are three surface mount fans (as opposed to vent fans like stock cards). I'm not a huge fan (pun intended) of these-- they tend to cool better than stock, but I personally think they're noisier (others may disagree).


Anyway, if you want my advice, and want dead silent cards, get a water cooled version. Or, get the founders addition, and down the road, you can always swap on an EVGA solution-- they cost about $100, and work great, and take about 10 minutes to install.
 
Thanks all, that is what I figured :) I'll get an FE, and if the noise is unbearable, I'll get a third party cooler. The Evga 3 fan solution seems nice, but the price tag will surely be close to 1k EUR, because it will be factory oc-d... And as I said I'm not really interested in oc, I will not cough up the extra dough for it, FE at 829€ being expensive enough. :p
Again, thanks for your advice!
 
If you go with EVGA then typically they'll let you upgrade if they bring out a new cooler using their step-up programme. Their support is also quite good.
 
EVGA sells the hybrid water cooler for the 1080 separately, it's about $100. Get the founders edition- I see no reason to buy factor overclocked versions, you can overclock yourself. IF the noise is too loud for you (I think it'll be fine), you can just get the hybrid.
 
That's true. These days CPUs coolers and even reference GPUs run so quietly that it really comes down to the case one uses. I've continued to be exclusively fan for the past 3 years and never hear a peep out of the two builds I've done in that time so long as they're cleaned every couple of months, have decent quality fans and a case with some sound deadening in it. Getting something quiet is really attainable these days for under $100 ontop of a build cost.
 
That's true. These days CPUs coolers and even reference GPUs run so quietly that it really comes down to the case one uses. I've continued to be exclusively fan for the past 3 years and never hear a peep out of the two builds I've done in that time so long as they're cleaned every couple of months, have decent quality fans and a case with some sound deadening in it. Getting something quiet is really attainable these days for under $100 ontop of a build cost.

Exactly-- don't pay money for fancy coolers, don't pay for factory overclocking. Get the bone stock refernce card, overclock at your leisure, and change the cooler later if you want-- you can get a nice aio liquid cooler, and still come in under what it would have cost to by a souped up version from EVGA or Zotan or whatever.
 

Brett C

Frontier
I have the EVGA GTX980ti Hybrid currently, am awaiting for the 1080ti series to have the same style - a liquid loop. However, the price right now on the 1080 series is waaaaaay too high for my piggy bank. :(
 
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