THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

[Jaiotu]

So don't the smaller ones give any boost? I have tried twice to do a boosted jump. First time I got the fsd supecharged message, so I went into the galmap & pondered my route but when I came out of galmap the boost seemed to have disappeared- is there a time period for this to work?
The second time I went into a smaller cone & didn't get any fsd supercharge message.

How does this mechanism work exactly??

I feel ya. Sometimes I think it's bugged. On occasion I've gotten the overcharged message but couldn't get the Galaxy map to plot an overcharged jump. This hasn't happened to me recently so maybe that has been fixed.

The size of the cone shouldn't matter. It's how long you stay exposed to the cone. Larger cones make it easier to remain exposed to the cone for a longer period of time. Getting a double boost from a neutron star is just a matter of initiating the jump and then passing through the cone a second time before the jump initiates. I think this can be done by simply not lining up your ship with the destination reticle until after you get the 2nd overcharge message. To be honest, I've never tried a double overcharge. I should give it a try sometime.

 

[JesusRocks1988]

I feel ya. Sometimes I think it's bugged. On occasion I've gotten the overcharged message but couldn't get the Galaxy map to plot an overcharged jump. This hasn't happened to me recently so maybe that has been fixed.

The size of the cone shouldn't matter. It's how long you stay exposed to the cone. Larger cones make it easier to remain exposed to the cone for a longer period of time. Getting a double boost from a neutron star is just a matter of initiating the jump and then passing through the cone a second time before the jump initiates. I think this can be done by simply not lining up your ship with the destination reticle until after you get the 2nd overcharge message. To be honest, I've never tried a double overcharge. I should give it a try sometime.

The way drkaii described it, it sounded like you need to be passing through the cone when the FSD gets to the point of taking the fuel for the jump out of the tank, so the neutron star then super charges the remaining fuel before the jump. This happens within the 4 second countdown window.

 

[Harley Quinn]

I feel ya. Sometimes I think it's bugged. On occasion I've gotten the overcharged message but couldn't get the Galaxy map to plot an overcharged jump. This hasn't happened to me recently so maybe that has been fixed.

The size of the cone shouldn't matter. It's how long you stay exposed to the cone. Larger cones make it easier to remain exposed to the cone for a longer period of time. Getting a double boost from a neutron star is just a matter of initiating the jump and then passing through the cone a second time before the jump initiates. I think this can be done by simply not lining up your ship with the destination reticle until after you get the 2nd overcharge message. To be honest, I've never tried a double overcharge. I should give it a try sometime.

It needs to engage the jump and hit countdown before it can get a second charge so it uses the charge it has first.

It's then when flying fixed and straight during the countdown that it picks up the 2nd charge.

Means you need a long enough run through the cone direct to target to work.

Some people can do it every time but if you don't spend most of the countdown in the cone it won't work so luck on alignment is an issue.

It's just charge the drive but don't align, then pull to align just as you enter the cone to then fix for countdown and run through the cone picking up a new charge before jump engages.

 

[Jaiotu]

It needs to engage the jump and hit countdown before it can get a second charge so it uses the charge it has first.

It's then when flying fixed and straight during the countdown that it picks up the 2nd charge.

Means you need a long enough run through the cone direct to target to work.

Some people can do it every time but if you don't spend most of the countdown in the cone it won't work so luck on alignment is an issue.

It's just charge the drive but don't align, then pull to align just as you enter the cone to then fix for countdown and run through the cone picking up a new charge before jump engages.

The way drkaii described it, it sounded like you need to be passing through the cone when the FSD gets to the point of taking the fuel for the jump out of the tank, so the neutron star then super charges the remaining fuel before the jump. This happens within the 4 second countdown window.

Good to know. Thanks.

 

[Baton]

Never managed to do double charge, tried it once but it did not work for me, anyways this seems like bug/exploit so I would not use it.
But if it still works, then there is no need to play with alignment, just do not put throttle to full speed, the jump can not happen.
So you would need to get into the cone, put speed on 0, supercharge, select your target, charge your FSD to jump, wait another 4 seconds to supercharge and just put throttle to max.

Size of the neutron star does not matter, any of them will supercharge you at the same speed.
Very nice side effect - as your fuel is supercharged, if you are doing normal distance jump then you are using 1/4 of your typical fuel amount, can be useful in some scenarios.

If your FSD gets damaged below 79% and you cannot make the jump (and have no AFMU to repair) then first slow down to 0 and if FSD will not kick in then exit supercruise and then you will be able to make the jump.

 

[Jaiotu]

A thought about Kahina's visit to Sol in 3301.

We are about to hit the anniversary of Kahina's visit to Cambridge on the Spring Solstice of March 20, 3301.

Please don your tinfoil hats at this time. Fasten your safety belts and put your trays in the upright position.

At noon GMT on the Spring Solstice the sun will be directly over the equator in the same timezone as Cambridge UK, right? Go visit Earth in-game and tell me where the sun is at noon GMT. It ain't over Cambridge. It ain't even over the Eastern hemisphere.

Ricardo Bentonio was right. Remember his one-day only Community Goal to figure out what happened to 3302's extra leap-day?

Notorious conspiracy theorist Ricardo Bentonio has issued an appeal for cartographic data with which to substantiate an extraordinary claim. According to a recent press statement, Bentonio has unearthed ancient records that prove the 29th of February 3302, which appears on all galactic calendars, should not exist. He has convinced Kruger 60 Free to fund the one-day appeal, believing that the cartographic data will prove him correct.

If you pull up a Calendar for the year 3302 there is no February 29th because 3302 shouldn't be a leap-year but it was in the universe of Elite: Dangerous. Not only that but all of time is out of sync with the Earth's rotation. Could the fact that everything is out of sync be some kind of clue? If we pulled up an orrerry view of the Elite: Dangerous Sol System and sync'd it to an actual orrerry of the solar system ... what year would it be based on the position of the planets?

 

[Zeeman]

Erm... I'm not very smart, but I can lift heavy things.

I also travel fast.

Z...

 

[Harley Quinn]

Never managed to do double charge, tried it once but it did not work for me, anyways this seems like bug/exploit so I would not use it.
But if it still works, then there is no need to play with alignment, just do not put throttle to full speed, the jump can not happen.
So you would need to get into the cone, put speed on 0, supercharge, select your target, charge your FSD to jump, wait another 4 seconds to supercharge and just put throttle to max.

Size of the neutron star does not matter, any of them will supercharge you at the same speed.
Very nice side effect - as your fuel is supercharged, if you are doing normal distance jump then you are using 1/4 of your typical fuel amount, can be useful in some scenarios.

If your FSD gets damaged below 79% and you cannot make the jump (and have no AFMU to repair) then first slow down to 0 and if FSD will not kick in then exit supercruise and then you will be able to make the jump.

The problem is the cone effect if not on full speed and engaging as you hit the cone. You can be knocked all over the place and not align. Whether aligning or powering up, it's getting it triggered before your spinning but as you enter that matters.

As exploits go, getting 1 extra boost jump travelling compared to the various mission stacking for 1 solution, rolling different modes to stack in the first place, CLogging or even just making Elite exploration for a few passenger sightseeing missions it's not what I would call one

 

[Zeeman]

So don't the smaller ones give any boost? I have tried twice to do a boosted jump. First time I got the fsd supecharged message, so I went into the galmap & pondered my route but when I came out of galmap the boost seemed to have disappeared- is there a time period for this to work?
The second time I went into a smaller cone & didn't get any fsd supercharge message.

How does this mechanism work exactly??

Your boost range is show on the last panel on the right hand side info panel thingy. This includes boosted range. If you can't plot the route, just select any system within the range stated on your ship. Your ship will keep the charge, even if logging out, even if storing allegedly. I know some people post about supercharging their ships before docking them and changing to another ship.

Z...

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The way drkaii described it, it sounded like you need to be passing through the cone when the FSD gets to the point of taking the fuel for the jump out of the tank, so the neutron star then super charges the remaining fuel before the jump. This happens within the 4 second countdown window.

Yes, this is how it works - and a bigger "cone of jumpness" make sit easier. You basically hit the FSD button as you enter the cone, lined up to your destination star.

Z...

 

[Harley Quinn]

My usual is to set the route I'm going before charge, then charge, go to galaxy map and pick an interesting looking star near my route further down to jump to. Stops me guessing and going too far off my target.

 

[eadghe]

A thought about Kahina's visit to Sol in 3301.

We are about to hit the anniversary of Kahina's visit to Cambridge on the Spring Solstice of March 20, 3301.

Please don your tinfoil hats at this time. Fasten your safety belts and put your trays in the upright position.

At noon GMT on the Spring Solstice the sun will be directly over the equator in the same timezone as Cambridge UK, right? Go visit Earth in-game and tell me where the sun is at noon GMT. It ain't over Cambridge. It ain't even over the Eastern hemisphere.

Ricardo Bentonio was right. Remember his one-day only Community Goal to figure out what happened to 3302's extra leap-day?

Notorious conspiracy theorist Ricardo Bentonio has issued an appeal for cartographic data with which to substantiate an extraordinary claim. According to a recent press statement, Bentonio has unearthed ancient records that prove the 29th of February 3302, which appears on all galactic calendars, should not exist. He has convinced Kruger 60 Free to fund the one-day appeal, believing that the cartographic data will prove him correct.

If you pull up a Calendar for the year 3302 there is no February 29th because 3302 shouldn't be a leap-year but it was in the universe of Elite: Dangerous. Not only that but all of time is out of sync with the Earth's rotation. Could the fact that everything is out of sync be some kind of clue? If we pulled up an orrerry view of the Elite: Dangerous Sol System and sync'd it to an actual orrerry of the solar system ... what year would it be based on the position of the planets?

Hmm, I think the reason for this is that the days should be in sync with our time, and since 2016 was a leap year, 3002 was also, otherwise the in game day wouldn't match the real day anymore.

 

[Han_Zen]

A thought about Kahina's visit to Sol in 3301.

We are about to hit the anniversary of Kahina's visit to Cambridge on the Spring Solstice of March 20, 3301.

Please don your tinfoil hats at this time. Fasten your safety belts and put your trays in the upright position.

At noon GMT on the Spring Solstice the sun will be directly over the equator in the same timezone as Cambridge UK, right? Go visit Earth in-game and tell me where the sun is at noon GMT. It ain't over Cambridge. It ain't even over the Eastern hemisphere.

Ricardo Bentonio was right. Remember his one-day only Community Goal to figure out what happened to 3302's extra leap-day?

Notorious conspiracy theorist Ricardo Bentonio has issued an appeal for cartographic data with which to substantiate an extraordinary claim. According to a recent press statement, Bentonio has unearthed ancient records that prove the 29th of February 3302, which appears on all galactic calendars, should not exist. He has convinced Kruger 60 Free to fund the one-day appeal, believing that the cartographic data will prove him correct.

If you pull up a Calendar for the year 3302 there is no February 29th because 3302 shouldn't be a leap-year but it was in the universe of Elite: Dangerous. Not only that but all of time is out of sync with the Earth's rotation. Could the fact that everything is out of sync be some kind of clue? If we pulled up an orrerry view of the Elite: Dangerous Sol System and sync'd it to an actual orrerry of the solar system ... what year would it be based on the position of the planets?

The rotation of Earth, compared to the clock is of. It's as far as I know, a bug. I think I read that this detail really annoys Braben.

 

[Jaiotu]

Hmm, I think the reason for this is that the days should be in sync with our time, and since 2016 was a leap year, 3002 was also, otherwise the in game day wouldn't match the real day anymore.

The rotation of Earth, compared to the clock is of. It's as far as I know, a bug. I think I read that this detail really annoys Braben.

I just compared an Orrery view of Sol in the Elite Dangerous universe for the current Date/Time to an external Orrery. The position of the planets in Elite: Dangerous do not match their real-world positions for either 2017 or 3303.

Elite: Dangerous orrery view: http://www.elitegalaxyonline.com/orrery/?system_id=338

External Real World orrery: https://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Solar

While it is possible that the position of the planets is purely a mistake made by Frontier it is also possible that, if we could match their in-game positions to a real-world date, we might strike on some kind of hint. I believe that Drew once indicated the Kahina's voyage to Sol was for a purpose. She spent some time in Cambridge which is a historical center for astronomical research on a very important day (solstice). I think this is worth further pursuit though, after Cassiopeia A, I promise not to jump to any conclusions prematurely.

 

[Zeeman]

I just compared an Orrery view of Sol in the Elite Dangerous universe for the current Date/Time to an external Orrery. The position of the planets in Elite: Dangerous do not match their real-world positions for either 2017 or 3303.

Elite: Dangerous orrery view: http://www.elitegalaxyonline.com/orrery/?system_id=338

External Real World orrery: https://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Solar

While it is possible that the position of the planets is purely a mistake made by Frontier it is also possible that, if we could match their in-game positions to a real-world date, we might strike on some kind of hint. I believe that Drew once indicated the Kahina's voyage to Sol was for a purpose. She spent some time in Cambridge which is a historical center for astronomical research on a very important day (solstice). I think this is worth further pursuit though, after Cassiopeia A, I promise not to jump to any conclusions prematurely.

Oh wow, awesome links... I've never even heard of Elite Galaxy Online!

Z...

 

[CMDR Poet Starwind]

I know it's a bug, but does anyone else get excited when you sometimes zoom out from Surface Map in the System Map and the view has gone from 2D to 3D with the objects lined up coming out towards the screen?

 

[Masheikh Scytale]

We are about to hit the anniversary of Kahina's visit to Cambridge on the Spring Solstice of March 20, 3301.

Sorry if I feel totally lost ... but aren't you confusing SOLSTICE with EQUINOX ?
Don't hesitate to get me standing corrected

 

[Jaiotu]

I know it's a bug, but does anyone else get excited when you sometimes zoom out from Surface Map in the System Map and the view has gone from 2D to 3D with the objects lined up coming out towards the screen?

I am ... not familiar with that bug. I don't use the surface map very often. By the time it is available I just "eyeball it" from orbit.

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We are about to hit the anniversary of Kahina's visit to Cambridge on the Spring Solstice of March 20, 3301.

Sorry if I feel totally lost ... but aren't you confusing SOLSTICE with EQUINOX ?
Don't hesitate to get me standing corrected

Yes. Yes I am.

EDIT: I am now going to ask everyone to edit their memory to remove any evidence of my error. Hex editors are available from Mars High Astrocartography. Please report there at your earliest convenience.

 

[Masheikh Scytale]

No worries.

Cambridge: 52° and un poil de cul North
At noon of Equinox day the Sun will apparent at something like 40° of elevation. ... If I can read Wiki correctly.

but IMHO there is no point ..What should interest us is WHAT is apparent at 90° of elevation ? Am I right ?

Just asking because I am right now on Persephone.

 

[Jaiotu]

No worries.

Cambridge: 52° and un poil de cul North
At noon of Equinox day the Sun will apparent at something like 40° of elevation. ... If I can read Wiki correctly.

but IMHO there is no point ..What should interest us is WHAT is apparent at 90° of elevation ? Am I right ?

Just asking because I am right now on Persephone.

I don't know but ... all eyes on Sol come March 20th. It will be the anniversary of Kahina's visit. I'm thinking of submitting something to Galnet ... maybe a student protest in Cambridge against the Imperial justice system that convicted her on circumstantial evidence.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

FSD Supercharging

@ all the guys who responded to my query on this - many thanks!
Quite a lot to digest there!