Are you sure ? .. Well I do tend to agree, thinking of it... Should we make a poll ? Just a small one ?
Cheers Cmdr's
Lost ships due to life support running out
- Thread starter SinphulAK
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Are you sure ? .. Well I do tend to agree, thinking of it... Should we make a poll ? Just a small one ?
Cheers Cmdr's
Thargoids ate his baby
The others in this thread feel you may be using more power than your power plant can produce (I think). You can check this on the outfitting screen before you leave dock. Also, I believe if you press 4 for the right panel in your cockpit, at the bottom of the Modules tab it will tell you what percentage of power you are draining. I've flown somewhere to do combat and upon deploying hardpoints the ship shut down because I didnt upgrade the power plant to handle it. (Kinda embarrassing, lol)
Speaking of things shutting down, upgrade the life support to an A rated module if possible. That'll give you like 25 minutes of air (instead of 5) if things go south, and those life support modules are relatively cheap.
I'm sure the people here on the forum could analyze the problem if you provided your loadout for them to review.
My other suggestion is to do bounty hunting. Watch a youtube how-to video. You can make a few million per hour in a high RES with a Sidewinder and get back in that ASP in a few days instead of weeks.
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Do you have the same problem when you leave the dock with a stock ASP?
So glad you can't feel any smells over the internet, because that attitude stinks... Especially considering that other people genuinely trying to help, and figure out the problem.
Look guys I do appreciate the support on this and I'm not trying to be a jerk but after losing hundreds of hours on a technicality that to my understanding was not covered in training videos I am really discouraged from trying to recover from this. I went from 200k a mission to under 10k and I'm really not interested in doing the same process to get back to where I was. The time investment vs. what it actually took to flush all that down the drain is my primary frustration here. I'll keep an eye on my power levels from now on but now that I'm in a sidewinder that is the least of my problems..
Thanks for the support but I'm losing hope and motivation, I simply cannot recover what I lost in an even remotely decent amount of time. I'm a working bloke with kids.. I play this for fun, not to rip my hair out on technicalities that I was never made aware of and never had issues with for months before this incident. I'll just stay in a hauler until I can afford a Type-7.. buying the ASP was the greatest error of my playtime.
Thanks for the support but I'm losing hope and motivation, I simply cannot recover what I lost in an even remotely decent amount of time. I'm a working bloke with kids.. I play this for fun, not to rip my hair out on technicalities that I was never made aware of and never had issues with for months before this incident. I'll just stay in a hauler until I can afford a Type-7.. buying the ASP was the greatest error of my playtime.
That really doesn't sound right.
Lifesupport cutting out as soon as you undock is a symptom of power starvation. As has been pointed out your sensors were also offline because your contacts were blank and you therefore can't request docking.
Now, your thrusters were online or you couldn't have cleared the pad and exited the station (If it had been otherwise you'd have been stuck where you were until the station blew you up for loitering just before the O2 ran out) Likewise, your FSD was powered so you could jump.
To me, this clearly is a misconfigured power setup, but not all of it may have been your fault. There's two things I've seen once or twice that could combine to result in what you saw. The first is that right-hand UI changes (eg to power priorities and fire group allocations) made right after re-outfitting a ship sometimes don't "stick" and you have to reapply them after undocking. The second is that sometimes after swapping power plants I've seen the priorities scrambled and they need resetting. See either of them once and it's a minor annoyance and you just get used to double checking all of that setup after undock before you make your first jump after outfitting changes. I've seen both very rarely and haven't been able to reproduce either well enough to make a proper bug report yet but I have seen both more than once. I always check the power priorities are right after any loadout change after exiting the station and before jumping anyway - both with the guns stowed and deployed - if I've made a mistake I want to find out while I can re-dock and still have my old modules available for buyback, discovering that I goofed after a pirate starts shooting at me is less than optimal
If you got hit by both, that could be part of how you ended up where you did and didn't realize what was happening.
That doesn't explain how you ended up short of power in the first place though, unless you made a mistake in outfitting. My AspX (unengineered) has a B-rated power plant and still runs all other A-rated modules (sensors and lifesupport are D-rated, all others A) without issues, only needing to shut down the FSD, scoop and SRV bay when I run out the beam lasers. HOWEVER, if I swapped out my chaff and PDT for two more A-rated shield boosters then not even an A-rated plant would be enough to run it with the hardpoints retracted!
I think you either loaded up too much on your power plant or misclicked when replacing the power plant and didn't buy as big a one as you thought you were getting. That's how you ended up short of power - then you made a second mistake, that of not recognizing a power issue so that you were neither able to readjust your power settings so that your sensors came back online and you were able to redock and sort it, nor were you any the wiser after your rebuy and you walked straight into the same issue again.
So some of the issue may not have been your fault but the initial cause - configuring the ship short of power - was. Then even after the initial symptoms showed, that it led to not one but two ship losses was, I'm sorry to say, pilot error. The situation was retrievable.
Provide a loadout, more information, or something.
Instead of typing aggressively at everyone for trying to figure out your problem for you.
Instead of typing aggressively at everyone for trying to figure out your problem for you.
So you did change your powerplant.
Did you check the power output or did you just buy the most expensive one? Some smaller powerplants are more expensive but less effective than the 5E the aspx starts with.
Do you need a Beginners Course in Outfitting and flying ? ^^
Id even go and hunt some Millions with you *g* - for a this light snicker that i had reading this. ^^
Cheers!
Id even go and hunt some Millions with you *g* - for a this light snicker that i had reading this. ^^
Cheers!
Lestat
Banned
I done this once or twice when the game was new. I think the best would use the https://coriolis.io before adding new stuff to your ship.
First time I fitted the magic fix-alls that were SCBs on my Vulture, I flew out in front of the station to do a quick test before I went into combat. I fired them both at the same time and managed to melt and shut down my ship at the same time. Fortunately for me, being in a Vulture, I was already somewhat accustomed to turning things on and off and managing power priorities to fit 10T of modules into a 5T ship.
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At this point, no matter what was outfitted, I am assuming the OP will post "A rated power, all able to run, priorities checked, all was well.... Bug." Probably with a Coriolis link for good measure.
A lot of people shy away from personal responsibility... especially after being embarrassed.
A CMDR learned a lesson the hard way. It happens. They will either buck up and continue to play with a new found skill, or they will quit because it is "too hard" or "bugged".
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This is the best thread ever, OP. You not only ganked yourself, but twice in succession
OK, totally understandable that you're frustrated. But now it's time to calm down and diagnose the problem step by step.
I agree with others above - this sounds like a power management issues. It's kind of a moot point now, as you're back in your sidey, but I would suggest that every time you purchase new modules you go to your systems tab and check your power management. Are any of the modules red? Is the little % number at the bottom red?
You can practice power management by turning your cargo hatch on and off, and noting what effect it has on your power consumption. From there you can learn about prioritizing power on your modules. Some folks like to go like 15 priorities deep, but I say it's just for nerds, and you really only need 2, max.
Also, when power management shuts modules down, you get a big red warning that says "Power Plant Capacity Exceeded", in a sultry female voice. And when you're outfitting, you have two little power bars at the bottom of your screen - one undeployed, one deployed. If either bar ever goes red, then you definitely need to check your power consumption and module priority.
I wonder... your thrusters are offline when you're docked or landed, so power seems really abundant. I wonder if your powerplant was underpowered but you didn't realize it. Then, when you took off and your thrusters went online, a bunch of subsystems shut down.
I'm willing to bet that's it.
OK, totally understandable that you're frustrated. But now it's time to calm down and diagnose the problem step by step.
I agree with others above - this sounds like a power management issues. It's kind of a moot point now, as you're back in your sidey, but I would suggest that every time you purchase new modules you go to your systems tab and check your power management. Are any of the modules red? Is the little % number at the bottom red?
You can practice power management by turning your cargo hatch on and off, and noting what effect it has on your power consumption. From there you can learn about prioritizing power on your modules. Some folks like to go like 15 priorities deep, but I say it's just for nerds, and you really only need 2, max.
Also, when power management shuts modules down, you get a big red warning that says "Power Plant Capacity Exceeded", in a sultry female voice. And when you're outfitting, you have two little power bars at the bottom of your screen - one undeployed, one deployed. If either bar ever goes red, then you definitely need to check your power consumption and module priority.
I wonder... your thrusters are offline when you're docked or landed, so power seems really abundant. I wonder if your powerplant was underpowered but you didn't realize it. Then, when you took off and your thrusters went online, a bunch of subsystems shut down.
I'm willing to bet that's it.
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Look guys I appreciate all the support, I'm not trying to be a jerk but after losing hundreds of hours on a technicality that was not covered in training videos or training missions (not in this scenario) I find this incredibly frustrating. I will implement all of the advice recommended by all you good people but that won't change the fact I went from 200k per mission to less than 10k.. There is no coming back from this in a reasonable amount of time and I don't play this game as a "hardcore" player, I'm playing this for relaxation and fun. Some warnings or failsafe to stop me from undocking if this was a power issue would have been nice.. There was none of that. I'm not an expert at this game but I shouldn't have to be to secure the hundreds of hours I have already worked for legitimately. I really enjoy this game but if the cost of my ignorance in something as small as this costs me everything I have worked for in months of play it's simply not in my interest to keep going. Thanks to you all for the good advice, sorry for the crappy attitude this is just a completely defeating endeavor that was totally out of the blue.
Craith
Volunteer Moderator
Sorry about your loss, I know it can be saddening if you lose your ship, and don't know the reason about it. I can understand getting upset, but see it as a learning experience. If it was your power priorities, you learned now the hard way to check before launching, and at least you learned it not in an Anaconda or similar big ship. Also, you won't get a lot of sympathy from throwing accusations around. This is an internet forum after all!
Another thing (but thats down to personal preference): don't be overeager to buy a new, bigger ship. always keep at least the prior one, even if it means you have to work a little bit longer for your new one. But it means that you never have to start from zero. Not that you do start from zero, you have your experience, you have your faction standings, your friends ingame and maybe permits and unlocked engineers.
Finally, I can offer you some help to make up for your loss, in the way of 400t of palladium from the Teabaggers Renumeration Fund. It should get you at least back on track to your ASP, or other ship. If you are interested, just send me a PM, and I will see if we can arrange something.
Remember, there is no shame in falling down. Only in not getting up again.
Duane Dibbley
Banned
I've heared that too!
Trying to make one of OP's blood vessels explode is not helping, you tedious antagonistic Dutch muppet! The guy is new & has just experienced the frustration of the ED learning curve in all it's ruthlessness, then posted without cooling down first (never advisable OP, as it is a red rag to certain know-it-all r soles who've been playing since launch) *cough* no-one particular in mind there!
Bottom line OP, it was probably your mistake, but not completely beyond the realms of possibility of a bug..hence, submit a bug report & support will look into it! If you are very lucky they might take pity on you, either way...I've heard they are pretty understanding & helpful, although I've never contacted them myself!
NB: Do not log in again until you have communicated with them! Good luck!
Look guys I appreciate the support.. I've tried to post 3 different replies now and nothing is showing up. I'm not trying to be a jerk but after losing a month of work in less than 5 minutes on a "technicality" I'm pretty upset. I'll do what I can.. I'll take all the advice and be really careful with power supplies but now that I'm in a sidewinder that's really the least of my problems. 200k/mission down to less than 10k/mission is not realistic for me. I'm playing this for fun and exploration, not to rip my hair out after losing all that to something this small.. I appreciate all the reliable support but that doesn't change what I have already lost. I'm not rich in this game and I'm not an expert either, I don't see myself recovering from this kind of loss given the methods I used to get this far.. Thanks again to everyone for the help.
We prefer to be called marionnete, thank you very much. And I didnt quote the OP, he came back to attack people who were trying to help him.
Contact support, they will likely reimburse you if it's your first time. Doesn't sound like your Asp was A rated anyway, worst case it shouldn't take you long to get a new one.
I started a temp account on the Xbox not so long ago, did some delivery missions around the Ovid/I-Bootis clusters, was in an Asp within 6 hours. A shieldless Cobra (all cargo) did the job, insurance is cheap and it will outrun any NPC.
Sidewinder - Cobra - Asp
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