the brown dwarf field just below EAFOTS stretches out in many Sectors all the way pass the other side of the R-R line. it's not very thick but dense. Scheau Phoe Sector
THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)
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the brown dwarf field just below EAFOTS stretches out in many Sectors all the way pass the other side of the R-R line. it's not very thick but dense. Scheau Phoe Sector
Question: I was in an outbreak system collecting materials and stopped in the station for a bit. Got to reading the local GalNet and an article said it was an alien virus infecting everyone. Is this normal? I've really never paid much attention to the local GalNet let alone in an outbreak system.
Yeah, I was gouging running basic meds to outbreak systems and saw a number of these.
Who in game controls and sets Permit Locks? Can they be bypassed?
Yep. Outbreaks happen in systems that aren't doing so well. Came across one a week or so ago where livestock were being infested with alien parasites. I wanted to spread them to Petraeus' home system but there was no livestock for sale
The Pilot's Federation controls them. I suspect they can allow anyone (NPC organisations) access but there's way for players to bypass permit locks other than obtaining the permit.
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Many state it is the pilots federation, although I have never seen this officially stated. I tend to just look at it as a game mechanic.
There is no known method of bypassing them.
I had been thinking about summing up the pros and cons of this line of thinking in an article on the alien archaeology megathread but perhaps I don't need to. The TL;DR in favour of the UA/UP being reverse engineered is that Morse is more likely to be used by a human designer/manufacturer to send covert messages other humans than by aliens to communicate with humans and that the UA/UP (and the Unknown Ships) are only found in a tiny region adjacent to human space. The Formidine Rift/Conflux settlement logs suggest that the original Unknown Ships (able to hyperdict) might be from much further afield.
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There are crash sites of Unknown Ships near the Pleiades that would provide specimens to be reverse-engineered and numerous advantages for the superpowers or powerful groups like INRA to develop the technology. Perhaps a bit like the World War 2 race to develop nuclear weapons, the first to make use of this new technology could have a significant military advantage over everyone else. There would also be the opportunity to manipulate public opinion by carrying out operations using these new ships. They could be used to distract people, focusing their attention on a particular area so that explorers who are interested in aliens are not so interested in searching the Rift. They could be used to train people to fight similar ships, should the 'real' Thargoids show up again, or they could be used in an attempt to establish communications with them.
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The first casualty of war is the truth, so I think we need to stay focused on our search for clues about the Rift and not take everything presented to us in Galnet at face value. I consider trailers to be 'front-line' Galnet videos in this respect: they tease but do little to inform (even when the locations in which they were filmed can be traced).
I always thought that human seat was a design placeholder to make the ships NPC-flyable while the definitive thargoid/guardian/whatever alien cockpit was designed.
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I tend to agree. I like the idea that it might be Alien tech being flown by a Human fraction/organisation, but just don't think this is the case. 'If' it is a standard flight chair (and I say if, as the images I have seen leave a lot open to interpretation), I assume it is there for temp purposes as FDEV did not think anyone would be able to see into the ships in that level of detail. Given that the only way to see one in current live build is via a pre scripted, and very rare encounter there is next to no opportunity to examine the ship in detail.
Of course, the ED player base is nothing if not resourceful, as FDEV have seen again and again, and yet still seem to be slow to learn.
EDIT: Been googling some hi-def images of the Flower People Scout, and actually it dies rather look like a unoccupied standard flight chair.
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Ah! Thanks. I'm sure I've read that before. Like I said ... too much to keep track of. Thanks for the reminder.
Didn't the Circle Of Independent Elite Pilots try and fake a Thargoid attack in order to prompt a military build-up by the major powers to counter a future real attack? I think I need to re-read And Here the Wheel.
That sounds so real-world 2016/2017 - more funds for military!!! eh, I mean more SECURITY!!
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Not sure if anyone missed this but there was a distress call reported in GalNet yesterday coming from the Col 70 Sector, could be related to all this maybe?
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Recent reports indicate that a garbled distress call from somewhere in the Col 70 sector has been received.
The news has been met with surprise from some quarters, given that permit restrictions have made the sector relatively inaccessible.
"We're not sure what to make of it," said Perry Hussein, a member of the Federal intelligence community, "but it was definitely a distress call and the ship that sent it appears to have been destroyed.
The telemetry indicates it was an older vessel, perhaps Cobra class."
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Recent reports indicate that a garbled distress call from somewhere in the Col 70 sector has been received.
The news has been met with surprise from some quarters, given that permit restrictions have made the sector relatively inaccessible.
"We're not sure what to make of it," said Perry Hussein, a member of the Federal intelligence community, "but it was definitely a distress call and the ship that sent it appears to have been destroyed.
The telemetry indicates it was an older vessel, perhaps Cobra class."
I believe that was the crux in that book in particular. I still want the Imperial Explorers they had in that book. that sounds like my kinda ship
That was a great read.
The more I read, follow, and participate in this story the more I'm convinced this is all a plot. I'm convinced the flower ships are a joint venture between Sirius and Wreaken (possibly Core Dynamics as well). They reverse engineered the alien wrecks and whatever they found during the Dynasty Expedition and out in the Rift. They built the flower ships to promote fear of alien invaders and they've been using their political connects to try and steer the Feds & Imperials toward war for a while now.
They are the ones that would most benefit from a Fed/Imperial war as well as a build up to fight an alien menace. War and Aliens are the best things that could happen for those Politi-Corps. With their current political connections, even a perceived threat of either war or invasion will promote a new arms race and their new powerful tech they will "suddenly" develop keeps/puts them in the drivers seat with all of the Powers if they sell it right.
For me its all very much like the St Mary's Virus in V for Vendetta. The virus was intentionally released in 3 areas to promote maximum effect. Then after everyone was sufficiently scared a "miracle" cure was developed byViadoxic which just so happened to count the major Norsefire party members as major shareholders. As a matter a of fact I can draw several parallels to that story to what I see happening in the galaxy.
The only problem with their plan are the groups of CMDRs who keep looking to uncover the truth. They are finding the things they are trying to hide and figuring things out faster then they can make up more lies to cover the lies.
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Yea, but then it ain't easy to read
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Have these systems been scanned?
I really would like to give you the system. The problem is that the image file was converted and copied so that the file's date does not give me a reference to my commander's journal files. Perhaps when I go through the screenshots and find images with system references I can narrow it down a bit. But I'm afraid that this might not help to much either. I took the image somerwehre on the route from the Confulx via Hawking's Gap to the Bubble - yust a long way... and I do not make screenshots very often.
For those that have come to the conclusion that the unknown ship is piloted by humans, here is where I'm stuck - what to do with the information? The powers will never admit to it if all we have is speculation, so how does one go about proving it, or twisting their arm in just the right way to make those responsible have no choice but to admit the truth? We cant do any damage to these unknown ships, we cant follow them or communicate with it, we cant actually perform any studies on the ship... what about where they have been constructed? A ship that size doesn't just pop up out of nowhere, so is there maybe a construction site somewhere? Maybe Col 70? I remember with 2.2 they added capital ship docks, though I haven't visited one yet personally. Could there be, somewhere im our galaxy, a dock where these ships are being built that we can find? With permit locks it womt be as simple as stumbling across such a location if it does it exist, but yeah my first guess would be Col 70. Maybe this distress signal from the cobra in Galnet found this site and were destroyed for it?
I've just thought, in ED 2.3 b4 has anyone tried the ship based data link scanner on the various beacons in Eafots etc?
Typical I only noticed it heading out to the heart nebula! lol
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Ok I've arrived at the asteroid base now (very cool btw), I'll head back to the beacons to see if the DLS does anything with 'em.
Oh btw, on my trip here I found an unlisted ELW, IDK yet if it's been tagged in the live game.
Typical I only noticed it heading out to the heart nebula! lol
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Ok I've arrived at the asteroid base now (very cool btw
), I'll head back to the beacons to see if the DLS does anything with 'em.Oh btw, on my trip here I found an unlisted ELW, IDK yet if it's been tagged in the live game.
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