You can justify everything with that...
The financial argument for free, universal ship names
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That Video is so good!, how have I not seen it before
I expect they could but would it make financial sense? I think probably not, in this case particularly because of the broadcast, ship scan aspect. The thread idea of giving some for free to show how great it is, so people will buy more, MIGHT work for paintjobs (might) and spacesuits but I think it falls down on this one because if you can send the name by scan, you've basically got it all.
Don't it always seem to go? Won't know what you've got, till it's gone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94bdMSCdw20
Tried to look at both sides now. o7 o7 o7 o7 o7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbn6a0AFfnM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94bdMSCdw20
Tried to look at both sides now. o7 o7 o7 o7 o7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbn6a0AFfnM
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It's not about MY ship. If it was, I wouldn't really give a frig. For me, the naming is not very useful anyway, because the sort of names I had in mind are all too long to usefully fit into the space allowed.
My objection is that I can't unlock seeing other people's ship names. If we're going to pay, I'd want to pay and then be able to see all the names (unless someone had specifically set theirs to private or whatever for some reason.) Paying to broadcast my own ship name is just indulgence, but I'd be interested to see what names other people have come up with. With this model, I can't, unless they pay (which is a factor that I have zero control over.)
On the bright side, you'll now be broadcasting a powerful LOOK AT ME SPENDING MONEY IN THE STORE signal all across SC...
On the bright side, you'll now be broadcasting a powerful LOOK AT ME SPENDING MONEY IN THE STORE signal all across SC...
Well, that's gotta be an upside. I can do that whilst firing my coloured lasers from my purple ship.
(I do actually have a purple ship.)
I am aware that they are doing well financially yes. You could argue that they are just milking us, but we don't know what expenses they have in the forseable future, be it hiring more people etc. This game has a development plan long enough, that it might just be money in the bank for future use.
Anyway, like I said, I'm quite against paywalling anything else than pure cosmetics. Other people's ship names being visible on the HUD have functional use, so I really hope they roll this back.
its, just, lol, i realy don't get it. Every stream i watch you dev guys seems to be a nice bunch of people.
But on the flip side, you hype us with hot air, releas patches full of bugs, give us new game features that are broken from the beginning (wings, guardians ruins, etc. pp.)
In order to rebuild some reputation, after letting us wait for an expansion we already payed you upfront over a year ago. You continue to deceive us with some realy obnoxious business decision.
It's making me sad, but my only possible solution to this is, i won't give you any more money, its a shame because i love the game, but you hurt my rightous feelings to much.
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But on the flip side, you hype us with hot air, releas patches full of bugs, give us new game features that are broken from the beginning (wings, guardians ruins, etc. pp.)
In order to rebuild some reputation, after letting us wait for an expansion we already payed you upfront over a year ago. You continue to deceive us with some realy obnoxious business decision.
It's making me sad, but my only possible solution to this is, i won't give you any more money, its a shame because i love the game, but you hurt my rightous feelings to much.
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Exactly. This has nothing to do with the poor Fdevs, living in squalor, begging from Mr Braben for every scrap of bread, and heating themselves by burning small mice, shortly before eating them for supper.
They made the decision to float on the stockmarket, therefore their financials are no longer our concern. Paying for vanity items is no longer to support the development, it's to add to their net worth, to show investors they're doing great and please can you buy some share in us because we're profitable.
I even saw some... other player compare paying whatever it is for ship naming, to a jpeg from Star Citizen! I mean, really? They said 'we have no problem paying for a jpeg'? Well, I don't know if I speak for everyone, but I can certainly speak for myself, and suggest that I have never bought a jpeg of anything, and I certainly wouldn't do it to 'support development' of that trainwreck.
Elite Dangerous is a game, initially funded by Kickstarter, but only to gauge public interest. It was abundantly clear there was a LOT, and so we have what we have. Except that pretty much every promise regarding in-game items has been broken, and instead we have the same blatent monetisation of ingame items we get on a Korean MMO. Or... a console game.
There is far too much coincidence for this cynic to dismiss the timing of the PS4 launch, and all these new cosmetic items. And, as a final point, someone quite rightly pointed out, we paid for the base game. We paid for Horizons, which was supposed to include all new gaming mechanics for this 'season'. Ship naming is a mechanic. It isn't just a decal, it is a PART of the game now, therefore I fail to understand WHY we should be forced to pay for something we already paid for. Nameplates, sure charge £20 each for all I care - they're cosmetic. But not scanning. That's very.. corporate.
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It's called marketing PR. It's very sad. I mean, look at Star Citizen... they're the absolute masters at manipulating people to believing they can walk on water. Frontier are not anywhere close to their level of deviousness, but they're trying. Hiding their business plan under a veil of secrecy, Sandro didn't get his nickname by accident.
It's becoming another tragic tale of profit over quality sadly. It's happening everywhere, I can't think of many gaming publishers that are not purely driven by money, and not also pride in their chosen craft.
35 years of gaming, all ruined by the same thing that's ruined everything else in the world.
I agree with most, but the bolded part doesnt seem cynical but rather paranoid. FD has been consistently adding stuff since launch. First more and more paints, then bobbleheads, ship kits, lasers and now plates and Avatar stuff. Dont blame this on consoles.
Frontier ... Sorry but have dropped the ball here .. This is a cynical cash grab and really you should be ashamed.
And that's coming from a shareholder.
And that's coming from a shareholder.
I think it's pretty lousy that they're allowing people to give ships a name but then not broadcast those names as part of the information received as part of a scan.
If that data is supposed to be part of a scan then it seems willfully underhanded to deliberately redact part of that data simply to encourage people to spend money.
We all probably have a heap of ships and once we decide to "pull the trigger" on naming one ship, we're probably going to want to do the same for every ship we own and, at even a quid a go, that's going to be quite an investment, and quite a money-spinner for FDev.
And I'm pretty sure that FDev is well-aware of that, and that's why they're doing what they're doing.
I don't really care, either way, about visible nameplates but the idea of deliberately redacting information within the game unless somebody pays money so that information can be seen seems like a rather cynical cash grab.
If that data is supposed to be part of a scan then it seems willfully underhanded to deliberately redact part of that data simply to encourage people to spend money.
We all probably have a heap of ships and once we decide to "pull the trigger" on naming one ship, we're probably going to want to do the same for every ship we own and, at even a quid a go, that's going to be quite an investment, and quite a money-spinner for FDev.
And I'm pretty sure that FDev is well-aware of that, and that's why they're doing what they're doing.
I don't really care, either way, about visible nameplates but the idea of deliberately redacting information within the game unless somebody pays money so that information can be seen seems like a rather cynical cash grab.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/338765-Ship-naming-and-Name-Plates-–-how-it-will-work
Thank you for clarifying!
Lowers pitchfork
Thank you for clarifying!
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What's happening is that FD has made a mistake that they should correct. I'm not buying a ship name under the present conditions.
Ah, they have corrected the mistake (gets off barricade)
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Rest assured, if basic ship naming and seeing such name-plates on ships isn't in 2.3, I will not be buying it, and I will also boycott all other cosmetics and further expansions for this game.
Period.
I have bought many paint jobs, all the weapon mod colours, some bobbles and bits for the cockpit - and now we're going to have to buy more cosmetics for Holo-Me - Again, rest assured, I will not be purchasing any Holo-Me suits, cosmetics, hair-styles, etc., if they continue with this blatant money grabbing for such small tokens of loyalty and fan service like basic ship names - it's bad enough they send out emails trying to get people to BUY a god damn beta pass before the beta is up after 3-4 weeks of testing because they don't have enough beta testers.
Enough is enough.
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