Would you pay for....

[Dutchman141]

What, and turn ED's model into that of World of Tanks? NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The moment I see signs of comerce similar to WoT I'm gone, never to be seen again.
Ugh, even the thought makes me feel sick........

So no,.................NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

 

[Noctover]

Dont get these threads...Will just reply same as always.

Paying for cosmetics, fine
Paying for content, no, coz we already have.

 

[Watcher]

Crikey, no, absolutely not, I think that is a dreadful idea.

 

[askavir]

The moaning from people who would get killed without rebuy in ships which they paid for with real money would be exquisite.

That being said, paying for expansions and visual fluff IS the line.

But on the other hand again, we might finally get rid of all those "it takes too many days to get an A-Rated Cutter" / "I have a job and that somehow makes me special" kind of moaning...

 

[Winterwalker]

Not only that but you're also paying for mods which make you 100 times more powerful than a non-horizons player and yet both share the same universe. That would be like letting premium tier 10 tanks into tier one games in World of Tanks.

An unmodded Anaconda is approximately 100 times more powerful than my Sidewinder? .. answer: c'est la vie.

The answer to the OP is still a no though, because it's asking Frontier to support multiple game, build versions.

 

[lokvette]

Nope.......

I'm not even sure if I want to give FD anymore of my cash tbh, if they ever went down the road of get this pimped ship for the great price off X amount I think that would be the time I'd walk out of the airlock and not come back.

 

[Jex =TE=]

An unmodded Anaconda is approximately 100 times more powerful than my Sidewinder? .. answer: c'est la vie.

The answer to the OP is still a no though, because it's asking Frontier to support multiple game, build versions.

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

(uh oh, he's starting a thread :O)

The ... controversy surrounding nameplates made me think about something. We've never specifically paid for an actual ship.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm opposed to the way that things in Elite are going. However, one thing we've never complained about, nor even questioned, is the fact we DO get new ships added to the game. Oh, sure, you need Horizons, but even so, that's an acceptable thing, given it's supposed to include anything new to be added during it's season life.

So what about after 2.4? What if new SRV's were offered at a price? Say £9.99 per new chassis. Or fighters? Same price.

What about the Panther Clipper? Surprise new ship, yours for only £14.99.

I am curious to know what the feelings are on this.

What if you could either pay another Season Pass of say, £29.99 for the next 12 months, and get everything like that in the same way we did with Horizons. Or, you had the option to pay for everything separately, a little bit like how Elder Scrolls Online works with their DLC.

What if you got the Season Pass, but you didn't get the Special Edition Panther Clipper with Extra module space, or perhaps an exclusive skin, unless you paid £9.99 (discounted for Season Pass holders)?

Where would you draw the line?

Why pay for game content I already paid 60+ bucks for? This isn't a F2P game. Microshat has no place in full price games.

 

[EUS]

No way.
Bad enough FD has people paying for laser colors, that cannot even be assigned to individual lasers!
'Course, I'm a dinosaur that still believes that a dollar is actually worth something.
Yes, I make my own coffee.
And yes I feel greatly disconnected from the those around me who say, "it's only $x dollars."

*Goes back to rocking chair on porch, mumbling about the damn lawn.*

 

[lysan]

Not buying anything unless it's ready and in the game.

Only cosmetics will be in the store, if they run from that promise
I will start calling them CIG.

 

[Ddraig]

As long it is cosmetic, I do not see the issue with they selling it separately.

 

[SaliVader]

I've got a better idea: Planet texture packs! It'd solve the beige problem quite easily with economic packs of 6 colours randomly assigned to planets, for just 6€!

It wouldn't affect gameplay, after all it's just cosmetics. Planets would still be functionally identical, you can still land on them, gather materials, dock on bases... except instead of all planets being beige you (and only you) would see differently colored planets, from red to brown, yellow, green, etc.

You paid for that with Horizons you say so different planets should have different colours for free? That's not quite right, they promised planets and they delivered, they never said anything about planets having a wide range of colours. Planets work the same for everyone, but you can choose to support the devs by chipping in a few bucks and get some very consumer friendly cosmetics that don't affect gameplay at all!

They used to have more colours, but they changed it? Of course, they changed the lighting to a better one! This usually happens in development, some things change. There's nothing to be mad about. And besides, irl planets are usually brownish/beige so it's clear they went with the realism approach. Kudos to them!

 

[bootsam]

No. I'm not buying anything else from them.

 

[Blackcompany]

Would it be possible to pay for some deep and interesting gameplay please? If they did a DLC for that I'd probably buy it

As for a season pass - they way this "season" was handled no way. The content and delivery don't match the price tag.

At this point, polished, finished, fleshed out Mechanics are ALL I will pay for.

 

[Ian Skippy]

Lol, so none of you guys would pay £10 for mini-season 3: classic ships. It will add panther, krait, mamba and so on for sale in game? But you would pay 40 for season 3 that contains new ships for sale in game plus other stuff?

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The moaning from people who would get killed without rebuy in ships which they paid for with real money would be exquisite.

That being said, paying for expansions and visual fluff IS the line.

But on the other hand again, we might finally get rid of all those "it takes too many days to get an A-Rated Cutter" / "I have a job and that somehow makes me special" kind of moaning...

You miss the point. Its not about buying an existent ship with real money. Its about funding the development of new ships with real mobey, and you still need to buy them in-game.

 

[Arvel Yael]

I'm against the idea of paying for ships. While ED might have the occasional fault popping up here and there, the game has never been pay to win. Let's keep it that way.

 

[mojonaut]

The moaning from people who would get killed without rebuy in ships which they paid for with real money would be exquisite.

Oh that would be awesome to behold, I vote for buying ships purely based on this.

 

[SaliVader]

I'm against the idea of paying for ships. While ED might have the occasional fault popping up here and there, the game has never been pay to win. Let's keep it that way.

Well to be fair, you need to pay to be able to buy the Dolphin and the Beluga (and any 2.4 ships I bet), and don't get me started on the Cobra 4...

 

[Mohrgan]

But Engineers is P2W?

Engineers massively boost your ships.
If two exact same ships piloted by cmdrs with roughly the same skill level are compared, one Engineered and one without Engineering (because the user doesn't have Horizons) who's going to win a fight 99.9999999% of the time?
The Engineered ship.

Thus Horizons is P2W. If you haven't paid for Horizons you will loose to a player that has Horizons and engineered their ship.

The only argument I can see against this is that you don't automatically get to win, you've got to grind a lot too to win. It's still P2W though since the cmdr without Horizons cannot engineer their ship at all.
At a push I'd change it's definition to P2G2W (Pay to grind to win).

Let us know how the refund goes

If you took a level 10 character up against a lvl 20 character in any game there would only be a mess left of the lvl 10. But, that's to be expected. Now, what if you have to pay for an Expansion to reach lvl 20? The lvl 10's don't have to stop playing, or buy the expansion, they just have to live with their decision. This happens countless times a year, when a game expands or goes from version 1 to version 2.

This is the best way to consider how Horizons fits into Elite. It is just like WoW releasing a new expansion. No one truly believes all those players that are capped before an expansion should get access to the new content. That's what we have here.

Another contention is; Why is it less fair that an Engineered FdL can dominate an unEngineered one, while it's fine that a Vulture can devour an Adder? What about players with g5 upgrades throughout, compared to those with just g3? As far as I have seen, or read, FD have never made claims that one can be ensured of a fair fight. There will always be cases of imbalance between the accomplishments of one players vs. another. Horizons, and the Engineers is just another version of that same situation.

 

[Vasco Sapien]

(uh oh, he's starting a thread :O)

The ... controversy surrounding nameplates made me think about something. We've never specifically paid for an actual ship.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm opposed to the way that things in Elite are going. However, one thing we've never complained about, nor even questioned, is the fact we DO get new ships added to the game. Oh, sure, you need Horizons, but even so, that's an acceptable thing, given it's supposed to include anything new to be added during it's season life.

So what about after 2.4? What if new SRV's were offered at a price? Say £9.99 per new chassis. Or fighters? Same price.

What about the Panther Clipper? Surprise new ship, yours for only £14.99.

I am curious to know what the feelings are on this.

What if you could either pay another Season Pass of say, £29.99 for the next 12 months, and get everything like that in the same way we did with Horizons. Or, you had the option to pay for everything separately, a little bit like how Elder Scrolls Online works with their DLC.

What if you got the Season Pass, but you didn't get the Special Edition Panther Clipper with Extra module space, or perhaps an exclusive skin, unless you paid £9.99 (discounted for Season Pass holders)?

Where would you draw the line?

This is Pay 2 Win. it is one of the main criteria with which i would leave ED for good and possibly never touch Fdev games in general ever again, if they ever introduced it.
Pay 2 Win and companies that produce Pay 2 Win titles should be (imho) avoided.