I am also claiming credit for the moon landing. I dont get why terrorist organisations get away with claiming whatever they want...
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I am also claiming credit for the moon landing. I dont get why terrorist organisations get away with claiming whatever they want...
It's pretty loose. Usually it means direct collusion with the attacker. However, I wouldn't put it past ISIS to claim responsibility for the attack because they think their propaganda machine influenced him.
Given his track record of violence mentioned in the article, that's highly questionable and also shows the risk of focusing all law enforcement efforts on terrorists.
There's more than enough everyday threats to security which are far more common.
If you feel helpless and afraid.
Most police departments have hotlines/apps/websites where you can submit suspicious observations (AFN always promotes the "See something, Say something").
Be mindful of your environment. This helps with pretty much everything. If I see the everyday texting&driving on my way to work, it makes me angry. A planned terror attack might be a terrible thing and cost many lives at once, but we still have thousands of casualties every year in every country. Every life matters.
Take a first aid course. That gentleman who tried to provide first aid to the wounded police officer is a hero. He might not have succeeded, but his straight thinking and swift action are admireable.
Stay safe.
They'll claim responsibility for absolutely any and everything, whether they think they were an influence or not, as it builds their notoriety.
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verminstar
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And you think terrorists care? You think they make a list of regions and cross out the ones where 'anti social acts against the community are not tolerated'? Most of them expect to die anyway. The reason there is little islamic terrorism in your neighbourhood is probably because they haven't got Northern Ireland very high on their list of things that offend them for whatever reason.We're not talking about punks who are committing crime because they are bored and too lazy for a job...
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The point of terrorism isnt to make a small group of random citizens mourn their loved ones, its to destabilise society. Shanaeri is correct, and it doesn't detract at all from the personal losses. Cheap rhetoric mate.
Yer right, it's fairly safe from religious fanatics here because half of this country is already populated with religious fanatics...and has been fer centuries. We have had enough of religious nut jobs...and that's just the so called Christians.
I never said anything about killing them or having them swinging from the hanging tree...tempting but no. Death is victory to them ergo ye keep them around fer as long as possible. There are many ways of breaking the human spirit...killing them puts them out of reach and make them martyrs which only inspires more of them which is counter productive at best ^
I remember in the second half of the 20th century in France (and elsewhere) we did not need to live in a totalitarian police state to live in safety. It is necessary to lead a merciless fight and to exterminate without civility these fanatics until the last crazy
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ISIS also claims responsibilty if a pouch of rice topples over in China.
Minonian
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The investigation will tell this.
Besides? They were responsible for a lot of attacks, and i think for our own good, it's unwise to whitewash this. Especially by knowing what they doing in their own little trasheap? It's not too far fetched to assume they are also doing / want to do this in the EU.
And the radical connections of the attacker is already proven, he was already in the center of attention of the authorities. The only question is, how many proof we going to have, how deep they are?
Besides? They were responsible for a lot of attacks, and i think for our own good, it's unwise to whitewash this. Especially by knowing what they doing in their own little trasheap? It's not too far fetched to assume they are also doing / want to do this in the EU.
And the radical connections of the attacker is already proven, he was already in the center of attention of the authorities. The only question is, how many proof we going to have, how deep they are?
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He was known to the police: Last arrest was in 2003, which hardly put him at the centre of attention.
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Yeah. Such a nasty attack style. Even if he was followed in the car behind, would even that have stopped him? It took about 20 seconds to cross the bridge I heard. Daesh were bound to claim but probably can because their order is to use any household item available? So community style protection is key, got to be when it "could" come from anywhere.
Boomer Kay (in thread above) has it right imo. Best bet is for as many people as possible, to be useful people to have around in a bad situation, with as few hapless passengers, as possible. All within reason of course, but isn't this you, me, them, everybody?
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This to be Honest.
Thing is.
ISIS has pretty much Declared that it consider all Muslim their Army and tries to tell every Muslim its their Duty to Attack the West.
Hence whenever any Muslim for whatever reason decides to Murder someone. They Claim Responsibility.
A Nice Tactic to Demonize Muslime in the West and drive more Recruits into their Clutches.
And Unfortunately very effective against those of weaker Mind who cannot make a Difference between Strategical claims of responsibility and actual fault.
There was a time that the IRA was banned from 'being heard' in the UK. By this I mean, under Thatcher, it became illegal to broadcast the voices of Gerry Adams, Martin McGuinness and the like, on UK radio or T.V., which meant the independent broadcasters had to use voice overs, to relay what these people had to say. Said broadcasters that did this, still faced prosecution.
My point is: Why does the press HAVE to tell us, that the latest terrorist group have made another claim, that this latest act of violence is their work? If the UK press at least; agreed not to be used as propaganda promoters of such groups, millions of people would not be informed, or mislead.
Thanks. Wasn't able to research it due to schedule, I appreciate it.
Those were dark times.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/02/27/article-0-087FDC40000005DC-134_468x421.jpg
Same year as my first school trip to London.
Trust the Daily Mail to get it wrong again. The Bishops Gate bombing was in 93, not 92 like the paper states.
The Daily Mail is as much a source of news as my Nissan is a Ferrari.
Fuzzy, I disagree with my oldest friend on pretty much every level because at some point in time we spilt paths. I'm conformist and he is a lot like you. I cannot for one minute imagine he would suggest something as outlandish as you have just done... that our PM was picking out her neckless. All you have ever done in these forums is promote your political view as if it is some kind of over arching fact. You don't like Conservatism or Brexit because you don't understand either of them. I don't like the hard left because I know it thinks it is correct... and is almost always wrong. The UK government isn't far right, you just don't like what it is.
I remember that. Jerry was dubbed over on the news because the thinking was that he shouldn't be given the platform to speak so was banned from speaking.
I get what you are saying. I think the problem was and is that if you muzzle someone you are muzzling everyone, and that isn't compatible with who we are (now). That said, I don't get the why the media was so obsessed with what happened. Without belittling the event, I doubt as much attention would have been paid if a coach had crashed killing 4 people and injuring 40.
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Minonian
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The thing about Terroist attacks this also starts the spiral of hatered, because the non Muslim population became angry toward all the muslims, and with it the radicalization starts in both sides. And they are wery well avare of this, part of their reasons. So be careful whom you go against because of this attacks. And also don't think for the second civilian activity is enough. Civilians must show self restrain, but self restrain does not means to let something like this pass, and The government responsibility is to deal with this matters at their infancy, before they are became too big to handle, without extremes.
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We know!! I don't get why people think we don't.