2.3 NPC Pirates

CMD_DELETE · Apr 11, 2017

Just got interdicted by 4 pirates in a row 10 or so Ls from a station, one was an Anacoda and the other two were Pythons. Lost two missions worth (80 tons) and a Python rebuy of 2.5 mil... within 5 mins of playing. Bug or have the goalposts been shifted?

zarrazee · Apr 11, 2017

Not sure. Maybe Elite : Dangerous is living up to it's name again.

Ian Skippy · Apr 11, 2017

CMD_DELETE said:
Just got interdicted by 4 pirates in a row 10 or so Ls from a station, one was an Anacoda and the other two were Pythons. Lost two missions worth (80 tons) and a Python rebuy of 2.5 mil... within 5 mins of playing. Bug or have the goalposts been shifted?

What was the ranking of the missions?

CptXabaras · Apr 11, 2017

Sorry for your lost, but sincerely hoping that NPC have become harder

CMD_DELETE · Apr 11, 2017

CptXabaras said:
Sorry for your lost, but sincerely hoping that NPC have become harder

Yeah I can understand that but I wasn't prepared for it. Also 3 pirates in succession then 2 at once is too much for a ship kitted out for cargo, especially if they're ships with heavy masslock- an anacoda and another python both with missles.

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Didn't check the rank as I never have problems with running but it's the most pirates I've had chasing me. It was basically impossible whatever rank it was.

Loskene · Apr 11, 2017

Sounds like it's time to start tuning your engines then.

ShimEnki · Apr 11, 2017

CMD_DELETE said:
Yeah I can understand that but I wasn't prepared for it. Also 3 pirates in succession then 2 at once is too much for a ship kitted out for cargo, especially if they're ships with heavy masslock- an anacoda and another python both with missles.

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Didn't check the rank as I never have problems with running but it's the most pirates I've had chasing me. It was basically impossible whatever rank it was.

And haven't they firepoked the interdiction difficulty back again to almost having to submit as b4? It was fine as it was FD...like really.

Martind Forlon · Apr 11, 2017

2,5M rebuy on python? ... ohh, this is clear pointer on what's wrong here. It looks like using E rated ships for missions is not the best idea

Jukelo · Apr 11, 2017

ShimEnki said:
And haven't they firepoked the interdiction difficulty back again to almost having to submit as b4? It was fine as it was FD...like really.

On the contrary, the patch notes mention making them even easier.

ShimEnki · Apr 11, 2017

Jukelo said:
On the contrary, the patch notes mention making them even easier.

Very cool

CMD_DELETE · Apr 11, 2017

Martind Forlon said:
2,5M rebuy on python? ... ohh, this is clear pointer on what's wrong here. It looks like using E rated ships for missions is not the best idea

Mixture of E and D. It's kitted out for cargo as I said eariler- no weapons but has chaff and point defence + shelid boosters.

The two missions were 145k and 395k payouts so not high ranking.

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Jukelo said:
On the contrary, the patch notes mention making them even easier.

Sounds like a glitch then.

ShimEnki · Apr 11, 2017

CMD_DELETE said:
Mixture of E and D. It's kitted out for cargo as I said eariler- no weapons but has chaff and point defence + shelid boosters.

The two missions were 145k and 395k payouts so not high ranking.

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Sounds like a glitch then.

Did you feel that the interdiction difficulty was less than 2.2?

Ian Skippy · Apr 11, 2017

CMD_DELETE said:
Yeah I can understand that but I wasn't prepared for it. Also 3 pirates in succession then 2 at once is too much for a ship kitted out for cargo, especially if they're ships with heavy masslock- an anacoda and another python both with missles.

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Didn't check the rank as I never have problems with running but it's the most pirates I've had chasing me. It was basically impossible whatever rank it was.

Well, better pay attention to them. Elite-ranked missions can spawn very difficult opposition for traders. Sounds like you've been lucky before rather than unlucky now.

Martind Forlon · Apr 11, 2017

CMD_DELETE said:
Mixture of E and D. It's kitted out for cargo as I said eariler- no weapons but has chaff and point defence + shelid boosters.

The two missions were 145k and 395k payouts so not high ranking.

Thing is, that practically any ED ship E/D equipped is a crap. This is imo sort of newbie trap when commander have only money for buy new ship but not enough to properly equip it AND have at least 3! insurance payments. With more costly ships is this going only worse.

Ian Skippy · Apr 11, 2017

Martind Forlon said:
Thing is, that practically any ED ship E/D equipped is a crap. This is imo sort of newbie trap when commander have only money for buy new ship but not enough to properly equip it AND have at least 3! insurance payments. With more costly ships is this going only worse.

Thats why newbies shouldnt encounter such a trap in a python but in a cobra...

Scruffman · Apr 11, 2017

I seem to be getting interdicted more often now. Not doing any missions, no cargo in hold, no bounties & not allied to any PowerPlay faction.

It's starting to annoy me.

Azirphaeli · Apr 11, 2017

Martind Forlon said:
Thing is, that practically any ED ship E/D equipped is a crap. This is imo sort of newbie trap when commander have only money for buy new ship but not enough to properly equip it AND have at least 3! insurance payments. With more costly ships is this going only worse.

Alternatively, if you can't afford to fly it...

CMD_DELETE · Apr 11, 2017

ShimEnki said:
Did you feel that the interdiction difficulty was less than 2.2?

Can't remember the exact update as I didn't play for nealry a year but it was when one or two pirates could serial interdict you over and over and over again. I was low rank in a T6 so couldn't kill them I remember people complained about it as you couldn't get away- they keep on interdicting you until you got bored and logged out....

sleutelbos said:
Well, better pay attention to them. Elite-ranked missions can spawn very difficult opposition for traders. Sounds like you've been lucky before rather than unlucky now.

As I mentioned previously they were only 145k and 395k so not high ranking- both local delveries only one jump away to high and medium security systems. Usually I don't do cargo missions less than 450-500k and do 1.2 - 1.6 million cargo missions all the time but my favourite boom state factions have stopped spawning them.

CMD_DELETE · Apr 11, 2017

sleutelbos said:
Well, better pay attention to them. Elite-ranked missions can spawn very difficult opposition for traders. Sounds like you've been lucky before rather than unlucky now.

I'm an experienced trader- getting near tychoon with 85 mill in the bank and another 150 tied up in ships and modules so rebuys are not a problem for me. I keep the Python D/E rated as it's just a local (under 40 ly) cargo runner for earing credits.

Spatial · Apr 11, 2017

Jukelo said:
On the contrary, the patch notes mention making them even easier.

I can't see where the patch notes say this? They say interdicting Pirates is slightly easier.