Anybody got any ideas what I can do with an Asp Scout?

Snarfbuckle

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It's a slow medium sized combat ship with the agility of a small fighter.

The problem is that unlike the Cobra MkIV it did not get any UPGRADES except agility.

Even if it is agile its too slow to stay on a targets 6 as long as they can get away.

It needs SPEED. A lot of speed and its good.

The damn thing weights LESS than the Cmkiii and is slower...
 

Jesters09

Jesters09
Love my ASP-X's, you can do so much with an engineered range.
Passengers to Sag-A, smuggler missions, rares, fast deliver boom what ever, combat if you want.
I've even used mine just as an A to B then call my ship/s over. Wish we could engineer extra cargo space though, she'd be all I neded after that :D.
 

Muetdhiver

Muetdhiver
I got a bunch of them as "mules", ie store modules. (from before module storage).

Other than that its a ship without a niche role. There is nothing it can do better than other ships in the same price bracket. Poor sad thing...

I will choose A DBX/iCourrier/Cobra/Viper IV/DBS over it every time.
 
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K-Rose

K-Rose
Now I'm no fan of chubby pancakes but I will say I flew one AspS for a CG once, it was pretty fun.

With a class 4 PD, biggest for the 2s2m hardpoint ships, you can run high damage rapid fire plasma accelerators and rail guns.

With 2.3 it gets buffed. It'll have bigger shields I believe, or at least bigger SCB, and an extra slot, it'll be a proper little military ship.

But at the end of the day it's still a chubby pancake, never fly an AspS, AspX or Cobra, they're uuuuugly!
 
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[VR] DDM_Reaper20

[VR] DDM_Reaper20
I have opened a second account, and upgraded from a Viper MK IV to an Asp Scout. (Waits patiently for the boos and catcalls to subside.) Sorry, folks. I LOVE the AspS's agility. True, it doesn't have the internals of a Viper IV, and is much slower, but its much better PD allows carrying more power-intensive weapons, and its jump range is superior, to boot.

I am currently pimping it to serve as a bounty hunter in Res and HazRes until I can afford a Vulture, but I am going to keep it. Nice ship, even without the buff.
 

Farmboy

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in the BBC version of Elite, Asps took longer to kill than most ships did, and I'm sure it was noted as being ex-military. Perhaps the scout it needs a hull hp and/or hardness buff to reflect that heritage. An extra hull-tanking ship on top of the FxS set probably wouldn't bend anything too far our of shape.

I don't think the AspX needs any help tho.
 

Alikat

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I bought one when they came out, thinking it was finally an upgrade to my Diamondback Scout. Better shields, more optional slots.. and boy did I switch back to a DBS fast.
 

Stealthie

Stealthie
Farmboy said:
in the BBC version of Elite, Asps took longer to kill than most ships did, and I'm sure it was noted as being ex-military. Perhaps the scout it needs a hull hp and/or hardness buff to reflect that heritage. An extra hull-tanking ship on top of the FxS set probably wouldn't bend anything too far our of shape.
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I rather like the way it's sort of "pretending to be something it's not".

It's sort of like BMW selling a 1.6l version of the 3-series which is all dressed up to look like an M3, or like Toyota selling a 2WD version of the HiLux for people who don't actually need to go off-road.

More closely related to sci-fi spaceships, I recall reading something about how Incom deliberately designed the T16 Skyhopper so it mimicked the T65 X-Wing in as many ways as possible (cockpit layout, flight characteristics etc) so that people would get a "buzz" out of feeling that if they could fly a T16 they could fly a "proper" combat spaceship.

I feel like that's what Lakon are doing with the Scout; it's like they're selling something that gives people a taste of a "big boy's toy". :D
 
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IndigoWyrd

IndigoWyrd
Stealthie said:
I rather like the way it's sort of "pretending to be something it's not".

It's sort of like BMW selling a 1.6l version of the 3-series which is all dressed up to look like an M3, or like Toyota selling a 2WD version of the HiLux for people who don't actually need to go off-road.

More closely related to sci-fi spaceships, I recall reading something about how Incom deliberately designed the T16 Skyhopper so it mimicked the T65 X-Wing in as many ways as possible (cockpit layout, flight characteristics etc) so that people would get a "buzz" out of feeling that if they could fly a T16 they could fly a "proper" combat spaceship.

I feel like that's what Lakon are doing with the Scout; it's like they're selling something that gives people a taste of a "big boy's toy". :D
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Asp Scout = Military Humvee
Asp Explorer = Hummer H3

Diamondback Scout = GMC Terrain
Diamondback Explorer = GMC Denali
 

Stealthie

Stealthie
Well, I think I can throw the dust-sheet back on my Asp Scout.

I have a DBX which is set-up as a pukka multirole ship (decent weapons/defences, cargo space, SRV and fuel-scoop) and it manages 43Ly jumps.

By comparison, my AspS (with a similar configuration, minus an SRV bay) has a maximum jump-range of a disappointingly mediocre 31Ly. [sad]

It continues to be, by far, the biggest lemon in the Lakon line-up.
 

Deleted member 115407

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Ooh ooh! The DBacks got some space and jump-range upgrades, didn't they? I'm going to have to hop in one of mine tonight and check it out.
 

CMDR Redcrest

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Stealthie said:
Well, I think I can throw the dust-sheet back on my Asp Scout.

I have a DBX which is set-up as a pukka multirole ship (decent weapons/defences, cargo space, SRV and fuel-scoop) and it manages 43Ly jumps.

By comparison, my AspS (with a similar configuration, minus an SRV bay) has a maximum jump-range of a disappointingly mediocre 31Ly. [sad]

It continues to be, by far, the biggest lemon in the Lakon line-up.
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Yup I had one waiting to see what the buffs would be. It's so poor I sold it and bought a Cobra mk IV. Which is also rubbish. Still. Why I bothered I can't recall...
 

Arvel Yael

Arvel Yael
[snark]You can do everything in an Asp Scout that you can do in an Asp Explorer. Just not as well, or as much of it.[/snark]

;)
 

Madrax573

Madrax573
The ASP-S can out fly anything! The agility of that ship is nuts!

Whack some DD's on it and it goes alright too!

With the new internal and the size upgrade I'd put it in between the cobra III and ASP-E now. Same versatility as the cobra in a bigger boat with sick agility and able to pack more firepower with the increased PD size meaning you can sustain cap hungry fire for longer. And with the agility of it the time on target is great!

Only real problem I have with the ASP-S is that it has the usual ASP series issues, namely side of a death star sized hit box and that glass canopy that shatters if you fart too loud. Other than that I really like it.
 
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Stealthie

Stealthie
Madrax573 said:
The ASP-S can out fly anything! The agility of that ship is nuts!

Whack some DD's on it and it goes alright too!

With the new internal and the size upgrade I'd put it in between the cobra III and ASP-E now. Same versatility as the cobra in a bigger boat with sick agility and able to pack more firepower with the increased PD size meaning you can sustain cap hungry fire for longer. And with the agility of it the time on target is great!

Only real problem I have with the ASP-S is that it has the usual ASP series issues, namely side of a death star sized hit box and that glass canopy that shatters if you fart too loud. Other than that I really like it.
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The funny thing is, everybody likes the Cobra 3 and all the cool kids are currently flying Viper 4s and yet the AspS is very similar to both those ships and yet it doesn't seem to be held in anything like the same regard.
The problem, I fear, is that people like the Cobra and the Viper for sentimental reasons rather than practical ones.
All 3 ships are very similar and they're all actually pretty mediocre.

I spent a lot of time in a Viper 4, and it made me a LOT of money so I feel a bit of loyalty to it but, at the end of the day, I was only flying it because it was a cheap re-buy and it did the job.
Equally, I upgraded and engineered every part of my Cobra just 'cos I thought it deserved it.
Is it actually my first choice for any specific purpose though? Nope. Afraid not.

Perhaps it's a money thing?
When you don't have money you need to be creative but once money stops being an issue you're immediately going to choose other ships which do the job better instead.

It's certainly an interesting paradox though; the way the Cobra and Viper are thought of so highly while the AspS is dismissed even though there are pretty similar in performance and have their share of issues and compromises.
 
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