THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

I thought she was rocking a Courier. Is that a Clipper, or a Cutter she is piloting?

Edit: just found an info on Drew's site, that the ship described in the book was actually a Clipper. I guess that answers my question. :)
 
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I know that. However, then the 10,7,5,3 clue is useless. Also, it says follow the river of souls, but doesn't say to the end.
I'm a bit torn XD.


This is true. For what it may or may not be worth: Drew liked my tweet sent to him, from April 5th, that simply said: "the journey since 84 has led to this point, where the river ends. "
 
But the river ends at Cursa , not Achenar which is the begining. Moreover , I doubt ( yet it could be a bold strategy) she will hide right into the wolf den ( aka empire's core system)
 
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But the river ends at Cursa , not Achenar which is the begining. Moreover , I doubt ( yet it could be a bold strategy) she will hide right into the wolf den ( aka empire's core system)

You need a new dictionary https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/achernar
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Achernar

In Chinese it means start of the river. But, crucially, in Arabic, it means end.

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I am not sure it necessarily means that is where Salomé will be. For me, it could very well simply mean that all *this* leads back to the Empire, and specifically its central power. It may well be nothing more than a narrative clue, rather than a locational one directing us to the place of the final battle.
 
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This is true. For what it may or may not be worth: Drew liked my tweet sent to him, from April 5th, that simply said: "the journey since 84 has led to this point, where the river ends. "

Well that does changes things quite a bit. There are only two stars that have names meaning the rivers end in that constellation.
 
So, based on the good work of many CMDRs in this thread, and a bit of my own tinfoil haberdashery, this is my guess:

"DB-IB [blah blah blah]"

I think I'm sold on the David Braben-Ian Bell interpretation espoused by several CMDRs here. This story event will tie together (retcon? harmonize?) all the previous iterations of Elite.

"At Phaeton's Reach, Follow the Path of Souls."

Phaeton, taking up Apollo's reins as the Charioteer (Constellation Auriga) would have had to cross "the horns of the Bull (Constellation Taurus)" as one of his first obstacles of guiding the sun. Those two constellations are adjacent to each other and line up quite nicely with the head of the River (Constellation Eridanus). The myth says Pheaton lost control almost immediately, but it took some time for Zeus to lock on with his Greek Mk I Rail Gun and bring Phaeton down. The myth isn't too clear on the exact crash site, but it's pretty clear the the furthest Phaeton could have Reached was Achenar. So we start there.

We follow the Path of Souls, as the Constellation Eridanus was often called, back to the head of the river. There we find an interesting astronomical object: the Witch Head Nebula. As has been pointed out numerous times, nebulas are great places to hide things behind. Sorta like a ... I don't know... a "veil" perhaps? Now look at this:

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Witch Head, Orion, Running Man, Flame, Barnard's Loop, Horsehead. Six Veils. All more or less in a beeline toward COL 70 Sector. Hit the Galactic Map and look up (as an example) COL 70 Sector GQ-X D1-1. Then eyeball a course back toward the bubble. Go ahead. I'll wait here...

Kinda cool, I thought. As far as symbolism and stuff goes, we CMDRs have to follow a mythological Path of Souls to find the Initial Point; during the event, Salome will pass through 6 Veils to reach her destiny or whatever. Has she already passed through the First Veil earlier in the narrative (as some have suggested)? Will there be a nebula-generating supernova or something in the COL 70 Sector that creates the Seventh Veil in-game (Which would rock, BTW)? Search me.

It's not a perfectly fitting tinfoil hat, but it looks good on me. I'll see you CMDRs at Rigel. I'll be in the orange Anaconda packing guns, fuel limpets, an escort fighter and a 40 LY jump range. It's a long run from Witch Head to COL 70.

Fly safe! o7

To stress "The myth isn't too clear on the exact crash site...." from you - Phaeton's crash site is earth, Italy, river Po (lat. Eridanus) . Writing this down, by the way, how far away is the nearest alien crash site from Sol ? Aynone knows ?
 
See my earlier post, achenar is rivers end, where phatheon landed, then follow the river back to the 10th, 7th, 5th, 3Rd stars, I dont remember all the names, but some are close to sol, sirius and have mythological names such as rana, phi, Good to see the progress....
 
My bad , I fear I have mistranslated something . just read the thing again and indeed the contellation starts at Cursa near Rigel and ends at Achenar....

I find the backtracking from achenar then 10,7,5,3rd interesting . However , which stars to choose ? The constellation owns a lot of stars , we have first to figure out the exhaustive list of those present in the game . I already get 10 but the list is vast ( only the named ones , according to wikipedia , are about 91 ....[knocked out] )
 
Checked Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eridanus_(constellation)) again and found this (if anyone has posted this before I apologize) :
Eridanus is connected to the myth of Phaethon, who took over the reins of his father Helios' sky chariot (i.e., the Sun),[1] but didn't have the strength to control it and so veered wildly in different directions, scorching both Earth and heaven. Zeus intervened by striking Phaethon dead with a thunderbolt and casting him to Earth. The constellation was supposed to be the path Phaethon drove along; in later times, it was considered a path of souls.

EDIT: "At Phaeton's Reach....." for me it's clear that from Sol the journey begins, on Eridanus' path, last question for me is: which "heading", Achenar or the opposite ?!?!

EDIT 2: earlier in the thread we discussed, that "reach" could also mean "range" in English language (I'm no english native speaker); if that means "how far Phaeton could get" (when struggeling with the chariot of his father) then it leads to Sol: as we know he crashed on Earth due to having been sniped by his father (is that correct grammar ?) .
 
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Yep , Phaeton started at Sol , but where did he fall along the path, that's the question . If one says that someone has fallen and then draw the path he went along, then the last point of the path is obviously where he felt..... Phaeton's reach would be then Achenar...albeit what the hell would a hunted personn do within the capitol system...? Except if her goal is to reach a specific place into Achenar whatever the risk, because it's her only mean to deliver what she has to say.....

Getting close , getting close....
 
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Yep , Phaeton started at Sol , but where did he fall along the path, that's the question . If one says that someone has fallen and then draw the path he went along, then the last point of the path is obviously where he felt..... Phaeton's reach would be then Achenar...albeit what the hell would a hunted personn do within the capitol system...? Except if her goal is to reach a specific place into Achenar whatever the risk, because it's her only mean to deliver what she has to say.....

Getting close , getting close....

For me it's clear that Phaeton crashed on Earth as it is said in greek mythology (see my quote from Wikipedia above).

Some more ideas: in the „formula“ (which we can see in the April 29th announcement), SUM needs not to the mathematical sum perforce (Drew mentioned somewhere that there is no mathematical skill required to solve the puzzle), but maybe the latin „sum“ is meant, which can mean “to happen”, “to be” and/or “to stay”, “to be of worth" and a few more. Applied to my above mentioned hypothesis – starting in Sol and travelling along Eridanus – it could mean that significant events may take part in the 3rd, 5th, 7th and 10th of the systems along the Eridanus constellation.
 
Problem is that the legend says Phaeton crashed onto earth yes , but that the flames where extinguished by the Eridan river; that's why it's so confusing as by that time earth was a huge concept. but I think you could be right and thus we have to be prepared to investigate Achenar and Sol. By the way it makes some sense as they are the 2 main capital systems ( no offense intended towards allliance ) .

As for the different systems along the path , it's a real clue but which ones to chose among all the stars . On wikipedia I so far only found a classification sorted by magnitude , not by the "place" each star is put along the path....

keep looking.....

ok I found that :

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This is the only exhaustive display of main stars along the path , but take heed that there are more than 100 stars in total , about 90 named or with a designation , so this drawing is perhaps not that accurate regarding what FD really put in game. However I think it's a good start.

last edit : assuming the numbers 10,7,5,3 with Cursa is number 1 we have : n° 3 = Nu Eridani ( aka 48 Eri, BD-03 834, HD 29248, HR 1463, HIP 21444² ) n°5= Zaurak ( ok in game ) n°7= Epsilon Eridani ( named also RAN , not RANA ( delta eridani) ) n°10= Tau 2 Eridani ( Angetenar , 2 Eridani, BD-21° 509, HD 17824, HIP 13288 )

Voilà.
 
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Problem is that the legend says Phaeton crashed onto earth yes , but that the flames where extinguished by the Eridan river; that's why it's so confusing as by that time earth was a huge concept. but I think you could be right and thus we have to be prepared to investigate Achenar and Sol. By the way it makes some sense as they are the 2 main capital systems ( no offense intended towards allliance ) .

As for the different systems along the path , it's a real clue but which ones to chose among all the stars . On wikipedia I so far only found a classification sorted by magnitude , not by the "place" each star is put along the path....

keep looking.....

ok I found that :

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This is the only exhaustive display of main stars along the path , but take heed that there are more than 100 stars in total , about 90 named or with a designation , so this drawing is perhaps not that accurate regarding what FD really put in game. However I think it's a good start.

last edit : assuming the numbers 10,7,5,3 with Cursa is number 1 we have : n° 3 = Nu Eridani ( aka 48 Eri, BD-03 834, HD 29248, HR 1463, HIP 21444² ) n°5= Zaurak ( ok in game ) n°7= Epsilon Eridani ( named also RAN , not RANA ( delta eridani) ) n°10= Tau 2 Eridani ( Angetenar , 2 Eridani, BD-21° 509, HD 17824, HIP 13288 )

Voilà.

Hey ! Does green mean that you haven't checked them in game yet or they are not present or just not confirmed ? How do we get the "rest" of the "formula" integrated herein (if we are on the right way at all.......) ?

EDIT: found this interesting site, it mentions Witch Head Nebula also would be an element of Eridanus constellation http://www.constellation-guide.com/constellation-list/eridanus-constellation/ .
 
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revisit of an old hellish world I found 2 years back in my cobra near soul nebula.
[video=youtube_share;vRvSH30W5gw]https://youtu.be/vRvSH30W5gw[/video]

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Problem is that the legend says Phaeton crashed onto earth yes , but that the flames where extinguished by the Eridan river; that's why it's so confusing as by that time earth was a huge concept. but I think you could be right and thus we have to be prepared to investigate Achenar and Sol. By the way it makes some sense as they are the 2 main capital systems ( no offense intended towards allliance ) .

As for the different systems along the path , it's a real clue but which ones to chose among all the stars . On wikipedia I so far only found a classification sorted by magnitude , not by the "place" each star is put along the path....

keep looking.....

ok I found that :

View attachment 118097

This is the only exhaustive display of main stars along the path , but take heed that there are more than 100 stars in total , about 90 named or with a designation , so this drawing is perhaps not that accurate regarding what FD really put in game. However I think it's a good start.

last edit : assuming the numbers 10,7,5,3 with Cursa is number 1 we have : n° 3 = Nu Eridani ( aka 48 Eri, BD-03 834, HD 29248, HR 1463, HIP 21444² ) n°5= Zaurak ( ok in game ) n°7= Epsilon Eridani ( named also RAN , not RANA ( delta eridani) ) n°10= Tau 2 Eridani ( Angetenar , 2 Eridani, BD-21° 509, HD 17824, HIP 13288 )

Voilà.

Excellent work here. Been looking exactly for such a named map of the constellation.

Still, I do think the last clue has something to do with the darkwheel. The whole DB-IB Fi(0) 1984 just reeks of it.
I just can get a clean way to use the SUM thing to pin a star from the dark wheel text.
 
Excellent work here. Been looking exactly for such a named map of the constellation.

Still, I do think the last clue has something to do with the darkwheel. The whole DB-IB Fi(0) 1984 just reeks of it.
I just can get a clean way to use the SUM thing to pin a star from the dark wheel text.

Why do you think the answer is a star?
 
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Hey ! Does green mean that you haven't checked them in game yet or they are not present or just not confirmed ? How do we get the "rest" of the "formula" integrated herein (if we are on the right way at all.......) ?

EDIT: found this interesting site, it mentions Witch Head Nebula also would be an element of Eridanus constellation http://www.constellation-guide.com/constellation-list/eridanus-constellation/ .



Hey , no , the font color I used is just to highlight the text so it's easier to read than a plain white standard one.....
And by the way we also have to backtrack the trail from Achenar as the figures in the sum() are in reverse order ( so with Achenar=1 rather than Cursa)

It will give us 8 systems to check. however I really doubt we'll find something there prior the event.
By the way , that's a very nice website you found there, thanks a lot . The Witch head nebula is indeed often related to Eradinus as for Orion.... So much to check or take into account... With all that I really doubt anyone will be able to fight/capture/protect Salomé....The mere goal to find her at the right place at the right time is ridiculous enough...she has every chances to evade..... but well , that's a nice thing to do in ED :)

Another thought abourt the sum() : we take it into account as some references of places to check..but why is it placed after the "origin Braben-Bell 1984" thing.... ? I launched Elite yersteday evening trying to search in the galaxy map of 1984 but with no real success....You start in Lave....could it be a clue ? there is perhaps something in the lave system but still to figure out the meaning of sum()......

and now , a drink to ease my brain.....

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Why do you think the answer is a star?

Ahh good question...because I didn't really figure anything else so far and thought it was a easier way to find a place related to the galaxy map... but it could be perhaps something into a system. As many I thought about the Sol system as it was stated by CMDR
Shijima that phaeton is a meteor in sol system and that the path of soul are the 8 first planets that have been discovered... but if so , why the number 10 ?
 
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