THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

'Ylidun' and 'Zero'
These are the odd ones out.
All the others are Greek mythology.

Did you know there are 24 letters in the Greek alphabet?

This means that there are only 24 possible letters which can be used for Greek names.
So if you're trying to use the names to send a coded message, you'd be short a couple of letters (Y and Z) and would need to 'import' them from somewhere.

SRYERBEEACDCIAAEJXFCZ

Anyone got a handy decryption tool?
 
Thinking outside the box a bit, Lave was where *players* started in the original, but in terms of the game development itself, it would have almost certainly been in Cambridge.

A while back there were Galnet posts regarding unusual ship movements at Cambridge spaceport in Sol, and if memory serves Salome herself visited Sol in order to use the observatory in...Cambridge.

Coincidence? Maybe...maybe not.

Drew suggested some time ago that a Sol permit would be needed : https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?p=4365366&viewfull=1#post4365366

Appreciate that it's more than a "couple of months", but haven't really needed a permit. Yet.
 
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Hi all,

According to EDDB, and regarding point 16. of the riddle, there's a planet Erebus at Calhuacan system.

Just wanted to add...
 
No software programmer, I just link information I've found. I don't know if it may be useful.

A link about the generation of names in Elite:

https://books.google.es/books?id=Na...AB#v=onepage&q=elite generation names&f=false

And a chart from that link. Perhaps the list of names (First letter? First two letters?) should give us a name using a key, like the game Elite of 1984.

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'Ylidun' and 'Zero'
These are the odd ones out.
All the others are Greek mythology.

Did you know there are 24 letters in the Greek alphabet?

This means that there are only 24 possible letters which can be used for Greek names.
So if you're trying to use the names to send a coded message, you'd be short a couple of letters (Y and Z) and would need to 'import' them from somewhere.

SRYERBEEACDCIAAEJXFCZ

Anyone got a handy decryption tool?

Ran that string through http://quipqiup.com/. Interesting that #4 contains part of Cassiopeia.

0 -2.402 NCERCARROTXTDOORSMITH
1 -2.425 HNGENTEELMSMALLERCOMI
2 -2.601 TGUNGENNAIYIKAANSCRIP
3 -2.625 NFULFILLETSTJEELBARTO
4 -2.647 TCESCASSIOPODIISUKHOV
5 -2.791 HKETKOTTAINIYAATSCRIP
6 -2.857 TFULFILLOCKCHOOLBARCE
7 -3.006 DCERCARRIOLOGIIRSHTON
8 -3.010 SCERCARRONINVOORTMUND
9 -3.048 HTERTORRANUNDAARILYNS
 
Again, extending the Fibonacci series in a different way, starting with Fi(0) we get
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0,1,1,2,3,5,6,11,654,665,1319 From this series we have F(0),F(1),F(2),F(3),F(4),F(5),F(6),F(7),F(8),F(9),F(10).
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Again not sure if to apply SUM(10,7,5,3), so that:

10 = F(10) = 1319
7 = F(7) = 11
5 = F(5) = 5
3 = F(3) = 2

SUM Total 1337

How did you end up with the 6?
 
I post this too as a sort of reminder and additional information for refreshing:

From his facebook page:
In the interests of interstellar expediency I will give a hint.
Both the video clue and the GalNet article resolve to precisely one location each, though the locations are not the same. You have had all of these clues before, this is effectively a summary of everything else.
Good hunting, CMDRs.

Video and Galnet news are two locations (Systems itself or in a System).
And we had the clues?
And it's a summary?

Should we dig in past Galnet News and other places?
 
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'Ylidun' and 'Zero'
These are the odd ones out.
All the others are Greek mythology.

Did you know there are 24 letters in the Greek alphabet?

This means that there are only 24 possible letters which can be used for Greek names.
So if you're trying to use the names to send a coded message, you'd be short a couple of letters (Y and Z) and would need to 'import' them from somewhere.

SRYERBEEACDCIAAEJXFCZ

Anyone got a handy decryption tool?

I have been trying Fibonacci ciphers with this text and can get nothing so far but I am guessing at the key
 
'Ylidun' and 'Zero'
These are the odd ones out.
All the others are Greek mythology.

Did you know there are 24 letters in the Greek alphabet?

This means that there are only 24 possible letters which can be used for Greek names.
So if you're trying to use the names to send a coded message, you'd be short a couple of letters (Y and Z) and would need to 'import' them from somewhere.

SRYERBEEACDCIAAEJXFCZ

Anyone got a handy decryption tool?

Well, isnt the stars below the area of the rift are called with SYREADIAE. That reminds me that.
 
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But this isn't a valid fibonacci series, it breaks as 6,11 should be followed by 17, and 3,5 would be followed by 8.
It does give a nice answer, but maybe coincidence.

DB-IB = David Braben - Ian Bell
T-1319 = 3303 - 1319 = 1984 (year of release)
Elite = 1337 is nice but the sequence isn't valid
You are correct, the correct Fibonacci series should be:
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654,665,1319,1984,3303,5287,8590,13877,22467,36344
 
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So you didn't remind me, i come back...

The fibounacci code visualized looks like a spiral, the center is Fi(0)

@Drew: are we searching for a system which is in the center of the spiral which is made of the systems mentioned at the poem? (Btw i posted my clues yesterday and today but you ignored them... Sadly :( if 19 is still missing: the infernal godesses of vendetta in the old Rome are Furies...)

I maybe quote myself if i can find the posts...
 
I've been dabbling with these the locations and Fibonacci’s equation, below.

I'm wondering if there are two locations that are common to the Titan's, apart from Gaia, which could already be one.

1. Styx
2. Rhea
3. Yildun
4. Eurydice
5. Rhamnousia
6. Bellerophon
7. Epione
8. Eurycleia
9. Amphithea
10. Cronus
11. Daedalion
12. Chione
13. Iapetus
14. Anticlea
15. Aeolus
16. Erebus
17. Jupiter (Sol: 0:0:0)
8. Xanthus
19. Furies
20. Cassiopeia
21. Zero

[1] The river to the underworld
[2] Gaia’s daughter all unfurled
[3] Fourth minor bear in vain
[4] By viper’s sting was slain
[5] Also known as Nemesis
[6] The doom of Chimera
[7] She is tasked with soothing pain
[8] Suckling Odysseus from afar
[9] Mother of the mother of
[10] Leader of the Titans
[11] He transformed into a hawk
[12] A daughter of Daedalion’s
[13] The piercer was how he was known
[14] Mother of Ulysses
[15] Ruler of the winds
[16] God of night, primordial flees
[17] Zeus’ namesake now lies in Sol
[18] Achilles’ favoured horse
[19] Women of vengeance infernal
[20] The vain queen rides not forth
[21] A final word, a course to follow, a poor miser’s sum[.] If you would understand it all, seek Fibonacci’s Zephyrum[.]

[1] The river to the underworld[,] [1] The river to the underworld[,] [2] Gaia’s daughter all unfurled[.] [3] Fourth minor bear in vain[,] [5] Also known as Nemesis, [8] Suckling Odysseus from afar[,] [13] The piercer was how he was known[.] [21] A final word, a course to follow, a poor miser’s sum[.] If you would understand it all, seek Fibonacci’s Zephyrum[.]

SUM(10,7,5,3)

[10] Leader of the Titans[,] [7] She is tasked with soothing pain[,] [5] Also known as Nemesis[,] [3] Fourth minor bear in vain[.]

The ryhme as follows without the numbers and [ ] tags reads as;

The river to the underworld, The river to the underworld, Gaia’s daughter all unfurled. Fourth minor bear in vain, Also known as Nemesis, Suckling Odysseus from afar, The piercer was how he was known. A final word, a course to follow, a poor miser’s sum. If you would understand it all, seek Fibonacci’s Zephyrum.

(Fibonacci’s Zephyrum: 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144)

[1] Styx; 5 rivers flow to the Underworld. Styx is the "river of unbreakable oath by which the gods took vows". Titan Goddess and wife to Titan Pallas, daughter of Oceanus and Tethys. Styx had four Titan children; Zelus, Nike, Kratos, and Bia. Styx fought for the Olympians during the Titan-Olympian war (Titanomachy).

[2] Rhea; was one of the Titans, daughter of Uranus and Gaea. She was the sister and wife of Cronus, also a Titan. She was responsible for the way things flow in the kingdom of Cronus (her name means 'that which flows').
Rhea and Cronus had six children; Hestia, Hades, Demeter, Poseidon, Hera and Zeus. Rhea was often symbolised as a pair of lions that pulled a celestial chariot. This symbol was often placed on city gates, the best known example being that at the city of Mycenae, where two stone lions guarded the gates.

[5] Rhamnousia (Nemesis); Nemesis was the goddess of divine retribution and revenge, who would show her wrath to any human being that would commit hubris, i.e. arrogance before the gods. She was considered a remorseless goddess.
She was often called "Goddess of Rhamnous", an isolated place in Attica, where a temple was attributed to her. It was believed that she was the daughter of the primordial god Oceanus. According to Hesiod, though, she was a child of Erebus and Nyx.
According to another myth, Nemesis created an egg, from which two sets of twins hatched; one set was Helen of Troy and Clytemnestra, and the other was the Dioscuri.

[8]
Eurycleia; is the daughter of Ops and granddaughter of Peisenor, as well as the wet-nurse of Odysseus. As a girl she was bought by Laertes, Odysseus' father. He treated her as his wife, but she was never his consummated lover so as not to dishonor his real wife, Anticleia. She nursed Telemachus, Odysseus' son.

[13]
Iapetus was a Titan, son of Uranus and Gaea, and father of Atlas, Prometheus, Epimetheus and Menoetius. Iapetus was also considered the personification of one of the four pillars that hold the heavens and the earth apart, a role that he later bequeathed to his son, Atlas. He represented the pillar of the west, the other three being represented by his brothers Crius, Coeus and Hyperion.

[21] 0, Zero, Zilch, Zip, Cipher; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0

Random thoughts:

Earth (Sol / Gaia) and Uranus are the two locations, later based on the war between the Titans and the Olympians. (Source: https://www.greekmythology.com/Myths/The_Myths/Titanomachy/titanomachy.html)

However, interesting to note, Uranus threw Gaia's children into Tartarus - Tartarus is a G-Class star system, so, if there are two locations to pick, based on the heavily influenced Titan mythology, Sol would be one system and Tartarus the other, since it was a source (the beginning, zero, 0) of great strife between the Titans, and led to Cronus and Gaia conspiring to castrate Uranus (which then gave birth to other Titans or Gods).
 
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If you use google and translate "Fourth minor bear in vain" via google or an other translater it will not give you the exact name of the star (which is Delta Ursea Minoris or simple just Yildun)... If it does, it will ne a bit too strange... Also it added some information about the osmanians...

The guy who writes the german galnet articles knowns german... I am sure...

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Lets see what we have (in the [] is the starsystem)
1 Styx [Styx]
2 Rhea [Rhea]
3
4 Euiridice [Eulexia]
5 Rhamnousia
6 Bellerophon [51 Pegasi]
7 Epione
8 Eurycleia [Prism]
9
10 Cronos [Elysia]
11 Deadalion [Prism]
12 Chione [Prism]
13 Iapetus [Sol]
14 Anticlea [Prism]
15 Aeolus [Aeolus]
16 Erebus [Erebus]
17 Jupiter [Sol]
18 Xanthus
19
20 Cassiopeia
21
22
These are the confirmed ones!

My bets:
3 Yildun [Yildun]
9 (according to the german version) Amphithea [Prism]
19 Furiea (or Furies)
21+22 Zero - Center of the contellation*

*) the figura which should be viewable after we found all systems should be a spiral, where the center is our wanted system
 
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You are correct, the correct Fibonacci series should be:
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654,665,1319,1984,3303,5287,8590,13877,22467,36344

654,665,1319,1984,3303,5287,8590,13877,22467,36344

There's magic in numbers! Interesting read, the book Elfino found. There, they say Elite used not a Fibonacci, but a Tribonacci algorithm and the initial sequence didn't follow usual rules.

[noob]
 
How did you end up with the 6?

I think it was from meeting 2 series in the middle:
First the ascending standard fibonacci:
0,1,1,2,3,5,...

Then in reverse to make it easier to see from the clues in the line:
3303, 1984 (=T-1319), then extend it naturally backwards: 1319, 665, 654, 11

The difference between 11 and 5 is 6.
 
I sing now of the great Demeter
Of the beautiful hair,
And of her daughter Persephone
Of the lovely feet,
Whom Zeus let Hades tear away
From her mother's harvests
And friends and flowers—
Especially the Narcissus,
Grown by Gaia to entice the girl
As a favor to Hades, the gloomy one.
This was the flower that
Left all amazed,
Whose hundred buds made
The sky itself smile.
When the maiden reached out
To pluck such beauty,
The earth opened up
And out burst Hades …
The son of Kronos,
Who took her by force
On his chariot of gold,
To the place where so many
Long not to go.
Persephone screamed,
She called to her father,
All-powerful and high, …
But Zeus had allowed this.
He sat in a temple
Hearing nothing at all,
Receiving the sacrifices of
Supplicating men.


Winter is coming!

Might want to get to the Kore of the problem...
 
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