THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

[Emperor]

I'm interested in why the numbers are in that particular order. If you're just summing numbers, why not say 3,5,7,10?

Because I would imagine having a different order would result in a different answer...

e.g. If we do a Fibonacci calculation on the digits as they stand and just look at the first sequence we would get...

10+7 = 17
7+5 = 12
5+3= 8

So if we need these as co-ordinates then the order matters... ;-)

 

[Johnb09]

Sol birth place of federation
Achenar birth of empire also means end of river
Lave birth of alliance first contact
Alioth the great war don't know if it fits but could be helpful

 

[Tarod]

Two locations; maybe there are two or more ways to apply Fibonacci series to the same set of data in order to obtain both systems.

Drew said there were two.answers and each was different.

 

[BuddyE]

Hi all!

I know you are all occupied with the "Drew is drawing his hair out, cause it is not solved yet"-riddle, but i wanted to give a short sitrep from the Rift.

I went to the freak-moon where i encountered a huge delay dropping from glide 1,5 months ago. Could not reproduce it, so who knows what happened back then. I saw that most of EAFOTS west of the nebulas seems to be unexplored, but i guess everyone concentrated on the area towards the Rift itself.

While returning to Farsight in the Heart Nebula i scanned all moons close to the first sun. This is a "green" jumponium system. So an ideal base to stop by, for everyone who wants to go further in.

cheers

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[Klumpozyte]

I haven't seen anyone mention the starting words:
"At Phaethon's Reach, Follow the path of souls" yet though in this thread, but I am late here

We did a list of the Eridani and their respective ingame names a few days ago.
http://en.sektion20.de/path-souls/

 

[Tony H.]

"At Phaethon's Reach, Follow the Path of Souls, DB-IB Fi(0) T-1319 SUM(10,7,5,3)"
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One thing that draws my attention is the letter T in T-1319, if I were to interpret this as TIME, or beginning of TIME, I would be inclined to start of the Fibonacci series with that value i.e. 1319.
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The new series would be then 1319,1984,3303,5287,8590,13877,22467,36344,58811,95155. Again applying the 10,7,5,3 as positions within the series to obtain the number values:
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Position 10 we obtain 95155
Position 7 we obtain 22467
Position 5 we obtain 8590
Position 3 we obtain 3303
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We obtain two pairs of numbers: 95155,22467 and 8590,3303, here we have two different answers.
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Not sure how to apply these numbers, maybe 95155,22467 as coordinates on a landable planet, and 8590, 3303 as coordinates on the galaxy map? Or, vice versa?
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Also the ratio of 95155/58811 = 1.617979 = The golden ratio = 1.618

 

[bAdbUd]

"At Phaethon's Reach, Follow the Path of Souls, DB-IB Fi(0) T-1319 SUM(10,7,5,3)"
.
One thing that draws my attention is the letter T in T-1319, if I were to interpret this as TIME, or beginning of TIME, I would be inclined to start of the Fibonacci series with that value i.e. 1319.
.
The new series would be then 1319,1984,3303,5287,8590,13877,22467,36344,58811,95155. Again applying the 10,7,5,3 as positions within the series to obtain the number values:
.
Position 10 we obtain 95155
Position 7 we obtain 22467
Position 5 we obtain 8590
Position 3 we obtain 3303
.
We obtain two pairs of numbers: 95155,22467 and 8590,3303, here we have two different answers.
.
Not sure how to apply these numbers, maybe 95155,22467 as coordinates on a landable planet, and 8590, 3303 as coordinates on the galaxy map? Or, vice versa?
.
Also the ratio of 95155/58811 = 1.617979 = The golden ratio = 1.618

1319 + 1984 = 3303

No 1319 + Year Original Elite Released = Current Year in ED

 

[fenrock]

"At Phaethon's Reach, Follow the Path of Souls, DB-IB Fi(0) T-1319 SUM(10,7,5,3)"
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One thing that draws my attention is the letter T in T-1319, if I were to interpret this as TIME, or beginning of TIME, I would be inclined to start of the Fibonacci series with that value i.e. 1319.

Yes, when you say "T minus 10" you mean the current time minus 10. In this case I think that's just a reference to 1984 when Elite was released (the galactic year 3303 minus 1319).
The DB-IB is just the initials of the 2 who wrote it, David Braban and Ian Bell. So this whole part looks like a huge reference to the initial game release.

 

[TureVorala]

Hello everyone,

I think there are more clues on the books... for example, on the Children of Raxxla (a short story), in the section "about the author" (Alisa Verdi) it said: She flies a heavily armed Cobra class trading vessel known as the "Eurydice". Also Luko's Ship is called Bella Principesa, which can be refered to a greek mythology princess (maybe Andromeda). I think the Fibonacci’s Zephyrum could be refered to the start of the Salomé's Story.

The Children of Raxxla book is free for download on the Children of Raxxla Website.

Also I remember there was a message from Tionisla system refered to Cassiopea but I don't know if this was solved yet: The vain queen (Cassiopea) rides a giraffe (Constellation) that remembers her daughter's hero (Daughter: Andromeda, Hero: Perseo).

 

[Jaiotu]

"At Phaethon's Reach, Follow the Path of Souls, DB-IB Fi(0) T-1319 SUM(10,7,5,3)"
.
One thing that draws my attention is the letter T in T-1319, if I were to interpret this as TIME, or beginning of TIME, I would be inclined to start of the Fibonacci series with that value i.e. 1319.
.
The new series would be then 1319,1984,3303,5287,8590,13877,22467,36344,58811,95155. Again applying the 10,7,5,3 as positions within the series to obtain the number values:
.
Position 10 we obtain 95155
Position 7 we obtain 22467
Position 5 we obtain 8590
Position 3 we obtain 3303
.
We obtain two pairs of numbers: 95155,22467 and 8590,3303, here we have two different answers.
.
Not sure how to apply these numbers, maybe 95155,22467 as coordinates on a landable planet, and 8590, 3303 as coordinates on the galaxy map? Or, vice versa?
.
Also the ratio of 95155/58811 = 1.617979 = The golden ratio = 1.618

That's not a valid Fibonacci series either. If you start with 1319 then the series should be:

1319, 1319, 2638, 3967, 6595, 10562, 17157 ...

 

[SnipeCPO]

Another thought on the last 2 verses is:

"a final word, a course to follow, a poor miser's sum" and "if you would understand it all, seek Fibonacci's Zephrum".

Taken together, this could mean start at zero, then 0,1,2,3,5,8,13,21. If these are directions, these could be the only pertinent verses in the riddle.

"a final word" could mean that you would even have to work backwards through the verses. e.g., 21,13,8,5,3,2,1. Visualizing a spiral shell, you would work backwards to the point of origin (zero or nothing). Coordinates could work you backwards to a permit world in the bubble for example.

 

[fenrock]

That's not a valid Fibonacci series either. If you start with 1319 then the series should be:

1319, 1319, 2638, 3967, 6595, 10562, 17157 ...

Technically fibonacci starts with any 2 numbers, some use '0,1', others '1,1' as their start, so you could argue that '1319, 1984' and '1319, 1319' are two different fibonacci series.

personally I'm more inclined with '1984, 3303' as the starting sequence, if there's any relevancy at all to fibonacci.

 

[CMDR Poet Starwind]

unfurl in greek is ξεδίπλωσαν (xediplosan), or Αναπτύσω (anaptyso); not that it helps.

So given the various word clue answers... can we get a list of galactic coords for the clues?

anyone thinking the spiral following the Fibonaccci series from Sol is going to pass through Hawkin(g)'s, Conflux, and Rift?

 

[Jaiotu]

Technically fibonacci starts with any 2 numbers, some use '0,1', others '1,1' as their start, so you could argue that '1319, 1984' and '1319, 1319' are two different fibonacci series.

personally I'm more inclined with '1984, 3303' as the starting sequence, if there's any relevancy at all to fibonacci.

More technically ... we're both wrong. The Fibonacci sequence always starts with either 1,1 or 0,1. Starting with any other numbers is not the Fibonacci sequence ... it just follows the same rule set as the Fibonacci sequence. Probably best that mathematically challenged folk like myself just sit back in the corner and watch at this point

 

[BartV]

Drew give us a clue

 

[[Diplomacy] Carnegie]

unfurl in greek is ξεδίπλωσαν (xediplosan), or Αναπτύσω (anaptyso); not that it helps.

So given the various word clue answers... can we get a list of galactic coords for the clues?

anyone thinking the spiral following the Fibonaccci series from Sol is going to pass through Hawkin(g)'s, Conflux, and Rift?

Only about 60% of the answers relate (directly) to in-game locations.
So it's probably not a map.

 

[BuddyE]

I just took a short trip in the nebula. Wanted to go for the Black Hole in here.

This place... it's just not right. It has a brown dwarf and a Gas-Giant (with life of course) orbiting it. But that Gas-Giant... It's completely black. As if the light from the brown dwarf has no effect. Ok, maybe it is the lighting engine from FD. But pitch black? I just got the hell out of there and back to the base.

I saw thousands of systems by now. Never felt so uneasy and unwelcomed before. Or the Rift is now gettin to me, don't know. [blah]

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[Vitamin Arrr]

Where can I read exactly how they found this message?

 

[Meme the little Thargoid]

Where can I read exactly how they found this message?

The message from Galnet-News?
It was there within a riddle.

The second was a video on Drew Wagars Youtubechannel. ^^

 

[fenrock]

More technically ... we're both wrong. The Fibonacci sequence always starts with either 1,1 or 0,1. Starting with any other numbers is not the Fibonacci sequence ... it just follows the same rule set as the Fibonacci sequence. Probably best that mathematically challenged folk like myself just sit back in the corner and watch at this point

As I said, they are fibonacci series which can start with any 2 numbers, although I only said series at the end, maybe should have qualified it both times.

TBH, I'm not sure on the relevence of fibonacci in this at all. We started with 'seek Fibonacci’s Zephyrum' which lead to 'zero' as a clue answer in one of the 2 puzzles.
In the other puzzle there's a reference to Fi(0) but I've never seen Fi(x) represent the fibonacci function, so I'm wondering if this is all a wrong trail. Willing to be pointed to solid evidence this is a reference to fib though.