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Yeah, you took what was once a utopia of cooperation and compromise, and turned it into a hell hole of people who bicker and fight and...
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#support3rdparty - Why we temporarily shut down our sites.
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Yeah, you took what was once a utopia of cooperation and compromise, and turned it into a hell hole of people who bicker and fight and...
Oh...
Yeah...if only y'all could experience the 10th dimension you'd all be amazed by how much I've accomplished!
So even devs use community tools good to know ha ha! Way to go! Good choice!
Wow, so much has happened while I have been away from the office this afternoon. Everyone on the dev team wants to make the game as awesome as possible, but there are so many competing demands. I expect to continue to work on the Journal, although please note it is not my top priority, but I am sure we can improve lines of communication.
Stepping in? Not sure I get that
My point is that the level of expertise and effort as you mentioned that exists by the 3rd party devs deserves to be met with respect and appropriate communication, otherwise I would apply that to a game that does appreciate it.
I could understand if ED was offering the same things as can be had with things like
EDDB. Unless you're taking screenshots of every place you dock, it's gonna be hard to find good trade routes.
Will be spending a lot of time looking for things to trade.
If the 3PD's were taking the info gained thru this API (I know nothing about it) and using it in a malicious manner,
or using it directly for their own benefit, I could understand. If they were using it to make Cheats, I can understand.
I do know that another game I play as much as ED, which involves swords and spells wholly supports add-ons.
Even to the point of making a Menu Heading in the main menu to deal with 3rd party add-ons. Hundreds of add-ons exist,
and everyone on both sides is happy.
What is needed is for FD to put in certain guide-lines and restrictions, just to make sure none of the above is happening.
It will keep a large bulk of their customers happy, and actually saves them work by letting the 3PD's develop add-ons for
the game that cost them (FD) ZERO. FD should look on them as unpaid professionals. :]
EDDB. Unless you're taking screenshots of every place you dock, it's gonna be hard to find good trade routes.
Will be spending a lot of time looking for things to trade.
If the 3PD's were taking the info gained thru this API (I know nothing about it) and using it in a malicious manner,
or using it directly for their own benefit, I could understand. If they were using it to make Cheats, I can understand.
I do know that another game I play as much as ED, which involves swords and spells wholly supports add-ons.
Even to the point of making a Menu Heading in the main menu to deal with 3rd party add-ons. Hundreds of add-ons exist,
and everyone on both sides is happy.
What is needed is for FD to put in certain guide-lines and restrictions, just to make sure none of the above is happening.
It will keep a large bulk of their customers happy, and actually saves them work by letting the 3PD's develop add-ons for
the game that cost them (FD) ZERO. FD should look on them as unpaid professionals. :]
How to misunderstand what we are asking for. Really.
Could you perhaps let ED and the 3rd party folks figure out for themselves what will or will not be good enough? They have come to an agreement to discuss this in a constructive manner. Perhaps you could follow suit instead of trying to light a fire?
Done. Just for you. Check back at 7pm UTC.
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This reminds me of when i was a kid... my brother had a Amiga 500, and he let me play it.. i was hooked!
I plaid lots of games and he would then player them... making me stand next to him so he could ask me what to do next (rather than work it out, and he is 7 years older).
After a while, i just said,'Why don't you work it out for yourself, and play the game'.
I hear people saying they needed the tool for exploration.. tosh! go to the far end of the galaxy, there's a nice set of twin ELW with my name on it.
Go to the highest start in the galaxy center (top in default view) my name is up there. I didn't use 3rd part tool... the scanner we now have are a blessing, so easy... i did a lot when you had to land on a planet and check what was there. learned what size of planet,type and location was likely to give me what i needed, rather than just asking for the answer (but i found that fun, i didn't even ask for tips on the forum).
Using the tools for the best trade routes? what a crock that becomes, everyone going to the same few places, and not checking out anywhere that's not listed on a site
Engineering...really... sure being able to see all blueprints in the game would be cool but, they are all book marked for you, you get invites telling you what you need to unlock them (even rare commodities, just take the name of the commodity in most cases, and search the g-map).
None of these tools are needed, they are hand holding... and we all wanna play our own way, but if your stuck without theses tool, shame on you
You just not as good at the game as some (Most maybe) who can work out what to do with what is available, and need someone else doing all the leg work for them (3rd party apps) , so i guess you could call some of them cheats
Tools are nice, but the 'request' is not (OP). Work with what you have (challenge in its self), if you want to do it... all this has shown me is, people have become to reliant on the tools and fall apart without them.
Captains logs, things like that , that add flavors to the game (I don't use it) are cool but relying on 3rd party tools to play the game... nah! not good
I plaid lots of games and he would then player them... making me stand next to him so he could ask me what to do next (rather than work it out, and he is 7 years older).
After a while, i just said,'Why don't you work it out for yourself, and play the game'.
I hear people saying they needed the tool for exploration.. tosh! go to the far end of the galaxy, there's a nice set of twin ELW with my name on it.
Go to the highest start in the galaxy center (top in default view) my name is up there. I didn't use 3rd part tool... the scanner we now have are a blessing, so easy... i did a lot when you had to land on a planet and check what was there. learned what size of planet,type and location was likely to give me what i needed, rather than just asking for the answer (but i found that fun, i didn't even ask for tips on the forum).
Using the tools for the best trade routes? what a crock that becomes, everyone going to the same few places, and not checking out anywhere that's not listed on a site
Engineering...really... sure being able to see all blueprints in the game would be cool but, they are all book marked for you, you get invites telling you what you need to unlock them (even rare commodities, just take the name of the commodity in most cases, and search the g-map).
None of these tools are needed, they are hand holding... and we all wanna play our own way, but if your stuck without theses tool, shame on you
You just not as good at the game as some (Most maybe) who can work out what to do with what is available, and need someone else doing all the leg work for them (3rd party apps) , so i guess you could call some of them cheats
Tools are nice, but the 'request' is not (OP). Work with what you have (challenge in its self), if you want to do it... all this has shown me is, people have become to reliant on the tools and fall apart without them.
Captains logs, things like that , that add flavors to the game (I don't use it) are cool
but relying on 3rd party tools to play the game... nah! not good
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Ahh, i read that backwards.. sorry.
I'm behind the third-party sites 100% on this.
Seems as if FD want to have their cake and eat it. Encourage people to make use of the 3rd party tools (if they want to - and a lot of people find them useful) but not be prepared to engage in a consistant and helpful manner with developers of said tools.
I imagine this strike action has not been taken lightly and has not been without a great deal of effort leading up to this point to try and get FD to listen to their concerns (shown by the long in-depth list of the history in the OP). The suggestions put forward all seem very reasonable (note: these are suggestions not demands as some posters on here seem to think).
FD have taken the tools and the 3rd party developers forgranted. Hopefully this will give them the kick up the behind they seem to so desperately need - because if this situation continues there will be less motivation for people to keep developing and updating these tools and that will be a real shame.
Do I need 3rd party sites to play the game? No.
Do they add value to my gameplay? Abso-fricking-lutely!
#support3rdparty
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Seems as if FD want to have their cake and eat it. Encourage people to make use of the 3rd party tools (if they want to - and a lot of people find them useful) but not be prepared to engage in a consistant and helpful manner with developers of said tools.
I imagine this strike action has not been taken lightly and has not been without a great deal of effort leading up to this point to try and get FD to listen to their concerns (shown by the long in-depth list of the history in the OP). The suggestions put forward all seem very reasonable (note: these are suggestions not demands as some posters on here seem to think).
FD have taken the tools and the 3rd party developers forgranted. Hopefully this will give them the kick up the behind they seem to so desperately need - because if this situation continues there will be less motivation for people to keep developing and updating these tools and that will be a real shame.
Do I need 3rd party sites to play the game? No.
Do they add value to my gameplay? Abso-fricking-lutely!
#support3rdparty
(\(\;;/)/)
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