General / Off-Topic Regarding violent extremism in the USA

I'm a Brit and have met several "outcast" types whilst covering thousands of miles in the US, firstly in a clapped out old VW Fox, and then later whilst riding a brand new Road King. I drank with hard right Republicans in Wickenburg Arizona, Hell's Angels in Montrose Colorado, gang members in Oakland and an Idaho Militia man in Booneville Missouri (he was visiting his Nan!). 99.9% were friendly, kind and generous folk.

I grew up in the Middle East and found 99.9% of Muslims friendly, kind and generous folk.

I have been settled back in the UK for 27 years and find 99.9% of Christians friendly, kind and generous folk.

I have shared a beer with Tottenham fans whilst wearing an Arsenal shirt, and found 99.9% of Spurs fans to be friendly, kind and generous folk.

Most people just want to be left alone and they will be friendly, kind and generous folk.

The 0.1% spoil it for everybody, but the generalisations made in the OP's sources really annoy me.

Yes the majority of people want the peace and to be quiet
 
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The 0.1% spoil it for everybody, but the generalisations made in the OP's sources really annoy me.

I for one agree. It's a small minority of actively violent extremists that are the problem. It's still good to identify poisonous ideologies, which end up triggering these loonies. Salafist Islam deservedly get a lot of *beep* for the extremists it occasionally creates. This far-right "sovereign citizen" *beep* needs to be taken seriously as well.
 
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/nov/24/-sp-us-drone-strikes-kill-1147

"And the beat goes on. And the beat goes on..."
- Sonny and Cher

[FONT=&quot]"True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class is running the country."[/FONT]
[FONT=helvetica neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] - Kurt Vonnegut[/FONT]

It's not the same thing. These are involuntary collateral damage. The terrorists, them, kill voluntarily and with cold blood. And with the hate in more
 
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It's not the same thing. These are involuntary collateral damage. The terrorists, them, kill voluntarily and with cold blood. And with the hate in more

“The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.”
― Orwell

“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”
― Voltaire
 
This thread is a joke. There are no right wing terrorists. Painting conservatives as extremists because they hold dear, to the letter, the constitution is frankly insulting. I chuckle hard at the desperate clutching of straws that the op is clearly engaging in. There is nothing wrong with being proud of your nation and its people. These patriots the op refers to are disgusted by the actions of their government as well, including foreign policy. They don't want their military involved in the middle east or anywhere.

I am disgusted that just after a terrible bombing inflicted upon our children someone would post such drivel in gesture to intimate white Christians are evil too. Shocking! No they are not and have never engaged on the level of atrocities being carried out on the streets of Europe. Yes I know the military actions in the middle east are the catalyst. Like I said before the patriots accused here want the military home.
 
This thread is a joke. There are no right wing terrorists.



Here's what the FBI says:

Domestic Terrorism
Domestic right-wing terrorist groups often adhere to the principles of racial supremacy and embrace antigovernment, antiregulatory beliefs. Generally, extremist right-wing groups engage in activity that is protected by constitutional guarantees of free speech and assembly. Law enforcement becomes involved when the volatile talk of these groups transgresses into unlawful action.
On the national level, formal right-wing hate groups, such as the National Alliance, the World Church of the Creator (WCOTC) and the Aryan Nations, represent a continuing terrorist threat. Although efforts have been made by some extremist groups to reduce openly racist rhetoric in order to appeal to a broader segment of the population and to focus increased attention on antigovernment sentiment, racism-based hatred remains an integral component of these groups’ core orientations.
Right-wing groups continue to represent a serious terrorist threat. Two of the seven planned acts of terrorism prevented in 1999 were potentially large-scale, high-casualty attacks being planned by organized right-wing extremist groups
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Taken from FBI testimony to the Joint Select Senate Committee on Intelligence:
https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/testimony/the-terrorist-threat-confronting-the-united-states

It's not limited to the USA.
Here's a report from Europe:

[FONT=&quot]The Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) in London says in its report Countering Lone Actor Terrorism that rightwing extremists across Europe present a substantial threat to the public that should not be overlooked.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]It details the cases of 94 people who were killed and 260 who were injured in attacks by far-right terrorists acting on their own between the start of 2000 and the end of 2014.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]In contrast, religiously inspired lone attacks killed 16 and injured 65 people.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The report, which is released in updated form on Wednesday, says: “Rightwing extremists represent a substantial aspect of the lone actor threat and must not be overlooked.”
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Painting conservatives as extremists because they hold dear, to the letter, the constitution is frankly insulting.

Extremism doesn't discriminate between philosophies. Your personal own is not excluded because it's simply yours.

Think that Buddhists are all peaceful? Or Hindus? Nope. The more intensely people believe in something, the less likely they can resist impulses to violence against perceived enemies.

The Right in the USA is mostly concentrated in the Old Racist South. The Confederacy.
Following the Civil War, it was the same Confederacy that embarked on a domestic programme of terrorism. As American as Apple pie.
Know what a coal bomb is? Look it up.

How about the Irish Republican Army?
Or Duterte's thugishness in the Philippines?
Or Montana's elected Republican Representative Gianforte's assault on free speech yesterday?
Or Greg Abbott's latest jokes about shooting reporters?

Enough proof?

[FONT=&quot]Since 9/11, white right-wing terrorists have killed almost [/FONT][FONT=&quot]twice as ma[/FONT][FONT=&quot]ny Americans in homegrown attacks than radical Islamists have, according to research by the New America Foundation.[/FONT]

Go look it up.

Maybe your President ought to start deporting some different people.
 
“The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.”
― Orwell

“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”
― Voltaire

It is surprising that you make the trial of the Westerners and not the trial of the terrorists

:rolleyes:
 
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Originally Posted by Necronaught View Post (Source)
This thread is a joke. There are no right wing terrorists.
Wow. I hadn't realised that detachment from reality was quite this severe. This is a clinical level of rejecting facts which don't fit in one's world view.
 
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Wow. I hadn't realised that detachment from reality was quite this severe. This is a clinical level of rejecting facts that don't fit in one's world view.

Yes because every week right wing terrorists are striking. It's all over the news. lol
 
Yes because every week right wing terrorists are striking. It's all over the ...

I'm going to bet that the lesion in the vmPFC you have ( which you will also NEVER look up) will block you from taking the obvious action.

You are just a single web search from determining the truth.

You are sitting at a computer reading this.

What's stopping you from continuing to make yourself look so bad?

Google it.

Prove us wrong.

We'll wait.
 
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Yes because every week right wing terrorists are striking. It's all over the news. lol

Right winger nuts are just as nuts as progressive violent nuts, however we can see here that they are flocking in the arabic countries, or is that right wing islamists? or maybe christina cross burners? One simply can't tell these days :/

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I'm a Brit and have met several "outcast" types whilst covering thousands of miles in the US, firstly in a clapped out old VW Fox, and then later whilst riding a brand new Road King. I drank with hard right Republicans in Wickenburg Arizona, Hell's Angels in Montrose Colorado, gang members in Oakland and an Idaho Militia man in Booneville Missouri (he was visiting his Nan!). 99.9% were friendly, kind and generous folk.

I grew up in the Middle East and found 99.9% of Muslims friendly, kind and generous folk.

I have been settled back in the UK for 27 years and find 99.9% of Christians friendly, kind and generous folk.

I have shared a beer with Tottenham fans whilst wearing an Arsenal shirt, and found 99.9% of Spurs fans to be friendly, kind and generous folk.

Most people just want to be left alone and they will be friendly, kind and generous folk.

The 0.1% spoil it for everybody, but the generalisations made in the OP's sources really annoy me.

We could have a beer or two together :D
 
I for one agree. It's a small minority of actively violent extremists that are the problem. It's still good to identify poisonous ideologies, which end up triggering these loonies. Salafist Islam deservedly get a lot of *beep* for the extremists it occasionally creates. This far-right "sovereign citizen" *beep* needs to be taken seriously as well.

Then you should also condemn the progressive left that is exercising violence today, just as we condemn right wing people who are violent, the pendulum swings both ways buddy.
 
Then you should also condemn the progressive left that is exercising violence today, just as we condemn right wing people who are violent, the pendulum swings both ways buddy.

How about just condemning violent people? It's not the idea themselves that are generally at fault for the violence. Any idea, in the hands of a particularly unstable individual, can be used to kindle the fires of violence. I'm not particularly fond of the "thought police" and the criminalization of ideas. If your ideas lead you to violent acts or to incite others to violence then, yeah, you've got a problem.
 
Then you should also condemn the progressive left that is exercising violence today, just as we condemn right wing people who are violent, the pendulum swings both ways buddy.

Do you have any examples?

Not saying there is no such violence, just wondering what it is. Hippy pacificist liberal feminist "s" are not really noted for aggression, which is the general root of violence.
 
Do you have any examples?

Not saying there is no such violence, just wondering what it is. Hippy pacificist liberal feminist "s" are not really noted for aggression, which is the general root of violence.

I'm curious too, about these progressive attacks. Knifings and mass shootings one supposes.

Or does Lysander feel that they are emotionally attacking him perhaps.
 
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Do you have any examples?

Not saying there is no such violence, just wondering what it is. Hippy pacificist liberal feminist "s" are not really noted for aggression, which is the general root of violence.

Tree spiking comes to mind as a particularly violent tactic that has been used by certain left-wing environmentalist extremists. Though I think they disavowed the tactic after the first human casualty.

There were some violent protests following the recent Presidential election in the United States though, to be honest, most of that violence was directed at inanimate objects (breaking windows for example) and not toward harming people.
 
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