Code action against CoR

[flyauburn41]

[video=youtube_share;NRES1RKgwhE]http://youtu.be/NRES1RKgwhE[/video]

One thing i have frequently noted on the forums, those who are in favour of things like PvP piracy do tend to be the... well, PvPers. Its very rare to see a trader in a thread such as this saying "Its great, and i enjoy getting pirated".

Agony, sorry but your'e wrong. I've been told exactly that many many times.

This video shows the duality of those that comply, and those that don't, and how the former approach can be fun for all:

 

[NeilF]

Just to clear a few things up:

1. We are a PvP Piracy and PvP group first and foremost, and that will never change.

2. The purpose of The Code is to provide ourselves and the Open community with what we think is sorely needed; emergent gameplay based around the credible threat of "outlaws/bad guys" in the Elite universe, specifically Pirates!, that can legitimately "boil you up!" if you won't be letting them have your cargo! We are the bad guys, and we want to be, and we even hope some of you appreciate that, knowing that some never will (get rekt).

3. Whatever we do in Elite, we do it in Open. Period. There should never be a doubt about that.

4. We follow The Code, which really only has one rule, don't destroy trading vessels without first communicating your intent to rob them. If they comply, they LIVE. If they don't, they DIE. Other than that, WE HAVE NO RULES! "Join us, for a lawless tomorrow!". YAR HAR!

If you don't like us, then I would just say in my best Emperor Palpatine voice :"Good, Gooooood". That means we are doing our job. We are not your friends in game, and we don't want to be. We are greedy villainous pirates that want to take your cargo and would love nothing more than to do it with great hostility!

See yee in the black and be watchin' yer back!! YARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

CMDR Fly Auburn
The Code
First Mate

Why do your generous efforts to create emergent gameplay generally seem to revolve around blowing other CMDRs up? Why doesn't your emergent gameplay revolve around blowing NPCs up? Refueling people? Helping nubes learn how to play? Warning people of speed limits?

It's just such a coincidence it always seems to aline with what aggravates other players... It couldn't be that you're simply finding what ever "reason" fits the goal?


ps: Good luck in looking for emergent gameplay... We all know it's not been put in yet... Maybe that's what 2.4 is...

 

[flyauburn41]

That's cool, but the OP states that in this "blockade" all ships are KOS and that being the case there would be no comms given, so which is it? Most people don't come on the forums so will there be comms informing those who stumble into the system of a "blockade" and giving a chance to leave or not......if so that is not KOS and if not then your "code" isn't worth the space that it takes up when you type it on the screen.....

Actually the OP didn't mention it, but we do just that. We send a message "This system is under Code Blockade, leave now or be destroyed."

What was implied, perhaps not very clearly, is that those that have no intention of complying are KOS.

Riceak is new in this role. He's not filling GFs shoes. It's an entirely new role we are calling "Quartermaster". We won't negotiate and have no need for an Ambassador. We will simply use him to make declarations such as this when we see fit.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Still demanding cargo to be abandoned? So you're posers, not pirates. Such a shame. I want real pirates in this game. [sad] You know, the kind that steal goods, so have stolen goods. You can Arr and Yarr all day long, but you're not pirates.

 

[flyauburn41]

Why do your generous efforts to create emergent gameplay generally seem to revolve around blowing other CMDRs up? Why doesn't your emergent gameplay revolve around blowing NPCs up? Refueling people? Helping nubes learn how to play? Warning people of speed limits?

What part of "we are the bad guys" was not clear?

 

[flyauburn41]

Still demanding cargo to be abandoned? So you're posers, not pirates. Such a shame. I want real pirates in this game. [sad] You know, the kind that steal goods, so have stolen goods. You can Arr and Yarr all day long, but you're not pirates.

However you want to look at it, it's 'stolen' either way, since we took it by force and unwilllingly. One way just makes it easier on us. Sorry that doesn't fit with your ideals.

 

[flyauburn41]

I don't really want to know about your internal reasons and what went on with GF - he left and that's it, as far as I am concerned.

However, your declaration of denying Mobius the status of "PG" stinks - and it's really hard to avoid going Godwin on that.
But who the **** do you think you are to decide what FD should allow or not? Did someone die and make you king? Or are you so conceited as to claim right of conquest?
And where will you put the boundary? Either all PGs are off limits, or none. Otherwise, who will you declare as an abomination in god'syour eyes next? Will you go after FleetComm - like Mobius, just stricter and with less members? Or, assuming that you actually manage to significantly bleed members from Mobius and a different group will come up to take its place, will you go after them?

Your rules look good and honourable. But if you break them by declaring that the people you don't like actually aren't people at all and therefore not protected by these rules, I'll nail my colours to my mast.

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

The real players, play in Open.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

However you want to look at it, it's 'stolen' either way, since we took it by force and unwilllingly. One way just makes it easier on us. Sorry that doesn't fit with your ideals.

Indeed. It's 'stolen', not stolen. I'm not saying you have to be a pirate in game, you take the easy way out, suit yourself. As I said, I would like some real pirates in game. Nothing of your concern. I'm just muttering out loud.

But I am being unfair to some actual pirate CMDRs out there who don't demand abandoned goods, so my apologies to them and my hat's off for being the real deal.

 

[Darkphoenix]

Actually the OP didn't mention it, but we do just that. We send a message "This system is under Code Blockade, leave now or be destroyed."

What was implied, perhaps not very clearly, is that those that have no intention of complying are KOS.

Riceak is new in this role. He's not filling GFs shoes. It's an entirely new role we are calling "Quartermaster". We won't negotiate and have no need for an Ambassador. We will simply use him to make declarations such as this when we see fit.

Then that is not KOS then is it? Anyways, I'll just state that our opinions differ on a great many things......again....(as a group) have fun doing your thing.

 

[flyauburn41]

Indeed. It's 'stolen', not stolen. I'm not saying you have to be a pirate in game, you take the easy way out, suit yourself. As I said, I would like some real pirates in game. Nothing of your concern. I'm just muttering out loud.

But I am being unfair to some actual pirate CMDRs out there who don't demand abandoned goods, so my apologies to them and my hat's off for being the real deal.

Nice try.

 

[Deleted member 110222]

Why am I here?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Nice try.

At what?

Is it that odd of an opinion that I feel pirates should have stolen goods, which they need to sell at shady black markets instead of walzing into a regular warehouse?

It's a shame the system is bodged up to let players be able to transfer goods to their friends as payment or such. Which is a wonky system as it is. Would have been much better to have friendly CMDR both be docked in a station where they could transfer goods through the stations logistics. And not have the abandon goods option available.

Oh well, sucks to be me.

 

[mossfoot]

At what?

Is it that odd of an opinion that I feel pirates should have stolen goods, which they need to sell at shady black markets instead of walzing into a regular warehouse?

It's a shame the system is bodged up to let players be able to transfer goods to their friends as payment or such. Which is a wonky system as it is. Would have been much better to have friendly CMDR both be docked in a station where they could transfer goods through the stations logistics. And not have the abandon goods option available.

Oh well, sucks to be me.

Exactly. The whole mechanic of "abandoning" cargo was to allow friendly CMDRs to trade cargo and not get shot at by police for the trouble. It was never meant to make a pirate's life easier.

 

[Lateralus]

At what?

Is it that odd of an opinion that I feel pirates should have stolen goods, which they need to sell at shady black markets instead of walzing into a regular warehouse?

It's a shame the system is bodged up to let players be able to transfer goods to their friends as payment or such. Which is a wonky system as it is. Would have been much better to have friendly CMDR both be docked in a station where they could transfer goods through the stations logistics. And not have the abandon goods option available.

Oh well, sucks to be me.

Exactly. The whole mechanic of "abandoning" cargo was to allow friendly CMDRs to trade cargo and not get shot at by police for the trouble. It was never meant to make a pirate's life easier.

Why do you guys get hung up over the minor details of how we go about pirating? Surely it doesn't matter to anybody whether we ask for stolen or legal cargo? That's our business

Like you guys (general PvE community) always point out how things like the 15 second logout rule is legit to use - so is asking for abandoned cargo from traders...

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Why do you guys get hung up over the minor details of how we go about pirating? Surely it doesn't matter to anybody whether we ask for stolen or legal cargo? That's our business

Like you guys always point out how things like the 15 second logout rule is legit to use - so is asking for abandoned cargo from traders...

I'm not saying it's not legit. It's perfectly legit. The 15 second logout is also legit, but I wouldn't use it. Think it's a cheap way out, or as you guys say, the easy way out. And totally unbelievable.

If I was into PvP and decided to be a pirate, I'd not demand goods to be abandoned. Because it's akin to the trader deciding not to report stolen goods after the fact. I'd accept deals from a trader though. Like asking for 40, but getting 30 abandoned. A little extra interaction, another angle to play. So it would matter to me, my business.

But as I said, that's just me. Why are you so hung up over the opinion of another random CMDR and what he does and does not consider proper piracy?

edit: Oh you sneak.

"general PvE community" <-- That's a myth. There's no such thing.

edit 2: I just read back, "posers" was a bit harsh. Sorry about that. [sad]

 

[Theodrid]

Awwww, bloody hell, I've made a few posts recently saying how I had been harsh on The Code and how I wished more folk were real pirates like them, I may have to retract those statements. I mean, seriously, I, maybe naively, thought from discussions with your I.Q....sorry, I mean mouthpiece Gluttony Fang that you guys had a code, y'know, a set of guidelines, turns out one loose rule is enough. Secondly. I was also under the impression that you were some of the few guys capable enough to be real pirates in Elite Dangerous, now I discover that even selling to a black market is too taxing for you.

Can you guys rename yourselves 'Come Back Gluttony All is Forgiven' or similar please because you aren't making much sense already and he's only been gone a couple of days, cheers in advance.

 

[Capn Murica]

Awwww, bloody hell, I've made a few posts recently saying how I had been harsh on The Code and how I wished more folk were real pirates like them, I may have to retract those statements. I mean, seriously, I, maybe naively, thought from discussions with your I.Q....sorry, I mean mouthpiece Gluttony Fang that you guys had a code, y'know, a set of guidelines, turns out one loose rule is enough. Secondly. I was also under the impression that you were some of the few guys capable enough to be real pirates in Elite Dangerous, now I discover that even selling to a black market is too taxing for you.

Can you guys rename yourselves 'Come Back Gluttony All is Forgiven' or similar please because you aren't making much sense already and he's only been gone a couple of days, cheers in advance.

This "loose rule" has been our Code for the past 2.5 years. We were built on the idea of "honorable piracy" where traders are permitted safe travel, even protected, upon compliance. We're a pirate group, and pirates don't like 10-page-long contracts notarized and signed in triplicate before getting back to stealing loot. I know it's hard for you forums lot to get your heads out of minor details like abandoned vs stolen cargo, but the simple fact is, compliant traders earn The Code's protection... And the stubborn explode.

 

[Theodrid]

This "loose rule" has been our Code for the past 2.5 years. We were built on the idea of "honorable piracy" where traders are permitted safe travel, even protected, upon compliance. We're a pirate group, and pirates don't like 10-page-long contracts notarized and signed in triplicate before getting back to stealing loot. I know it's hard for you forums lot to get your heads out of minor details like abandoned vs stolen cargo, but the simple fact is, compliant traders earn The Code's protection... And the stubborn explode.

Why yeah, of course, because clearly there isn't any scope of anything between '1 loose rule' and a '10 page long contract signed in triplicate'. And not meaning to sound harsh but real pirates don't ask for cargo documents to be filled out and signed off just because they are too lazy to click 'Black Market' on a station services board, or is that too hard for you to understand?

See you make out it's a tiny thing but what we're discussing here is one of the fundamentals of what makes a pirate, y'know, a pirate!

 

[sewerratuk]

Why yeah, of course, because clearly there isn't any scope of anything between '1 loose rule' and a '10 page long contract signed in triplicate'. And not meaning to sound harsh but real pirates don't ask for cargo documents to be filled out and signed off just because they are too lazy to click 'Black Market' on a station services board, or is that too hard for you to understand?

Personally I do it for the fun rather than the profit, good job because anyone that tries it knows there is no profit in piracy, anyway, as capt murica says if a pirate demands you dump cargo in a certain way it's your decision whether you want to comply or not, just don't get salty about the outcome if you don't

 

[Theodrid]

Personally I do it for the fun rather than the profit, good job because anyone that tries it knows there is no profit in piracy, anyway, as capt murica says if a pirate demands you dump cargo in a certain way it's your decision whether you want to comply or not, just don't get salty about the outcome if you don't

Yeah, no worries, just don't make out you are a pirate if you have to have your loot abandoned.