Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn

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Now that one is interesting. According to that, atmospheric landings aren't coming any time soon, and that is one of the big headline features. Sandro said a few months ago that spacelegs is also out in the distance, and that is the other big headline feature we know of. So what could the big thing of 3.0 be?

I think the speculation is that the headline feature in 3.0 is gas giants. And they've announced that 3.0 is about revisiting the core gameplay (exploration/trading/etc) so there may not be a headline feature as such.
 
I'm just now tangentially getting involved in all of the aliens stuff, so I apologize if this has been explored and it's just not covered in the Guardians / Ancient Ruins wiki pages b/c it didn't pan out.

At the perimeter of the sites along the walls and at key locations throughout there are structures that look like support struts. Maybe I'm too much of a table-top RPG geek, but they look like dice-rolling towers to me, and they look like they are supposed to open up. Arrows seem to be pointing towards the opening at the top, like we're supposed to drop relics or something into them, and the hole in the bottom seems to have a ramp coming from up inside. Has anyone else tried dropping relics into them? It's really difficult positioning an SRV in the right position to get the jettison to hit its target (difficult as in, I haven't done it yet, and by myself I cant even tell if I'm hitting the "hole").
 
I am not sure this is morse as such, I seem to get :

# dot/dashes : result
7 : ..-.--.
7 : -......
9 : ....-...-
6 : ...-..
5 : ----.
7 : --.-.--
4 : ...-
6 : ......
11 : -.-..-...--
7 : -.---..
10 : .....--..-
4 : ...-
6 : ......
5 : --..-

Listen to the audio it does sound like something, it's just upper limit for a morse string is 5 chars.

Agreed. Something is very obviously there... comparing the original waveform:

... to a noise reduced version

There's very obviously something there... though that much is obvious listening to it.

The pertinent point is that you can compare lengths/groupings etc. of the "blips". Unfortunately, nothing sticks out as "morse" immediately... listening to the signal in the video at normal speed it's definitely someone who knows what a typical data bitstream sounds like... preamble, data, footer... but unless it's 1's and 0's encoding *something* else, it's very possibly just some stylistic flair.

Reason I say "nothing sticks out as morse" is that yes, there's roughly two distinct "symbols" in there, but a single morse "letter" never has more than six symbols. If you listen to the recording and pick the "gaps" that would be the space between a morse-encoded letter, the groupings often have more than 6 "symbols", which is no morse I'm aware of.


Disregard, wires crossed.
 
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I spent some time looking at the ships that were destroyed out there in HIP 17044. Pretty cool to see it all.

My question is this: where are the pilots and crew of those ships? The cockpits are empty, at least the ones I could see into.

Short vid of my visit if you're interested --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2mz02YI6WQ

Just went there tonight and also looked around and into the cockpits of the smaller vessels. Nothing that I could see, I'd hate to be the one to say...abduction...but maybe?? Or maybe they were disintegrated by the Thargoid weapons.

Unrelated, do we believe that the Alliance is harvesting the fungus clusters in the California Nebula? If so, they may have known about the approaching Thargoid threat as well. Think about it, INRA "defeated" them the first time around by introducing a Mycoid virus. The prefix "my-" or "myc-" means fungus. Perhaps they're trying to resynthesize a virus to assist in repelling their forces again.
 
Agreed. Something is very obviously there... comparing the original waveform:
http://i.imgur.com/yDUzVcP.png

... to a noise reduced version
http://i.imgur.com/HK5BGnY.png

There's very obviously something there... though that much is obvious listening to it.

The pertinent point is that you can compare lengths/groupings etc. of the "blips". Unfortunately, nothing sticks out as "morse" immediately... listening to the signal in the video at normal speed it's definitely someone who knows what a typical data bitstream sounds like... preamble, data, footer... but unless it's 1's and 0's encoding *something* else, it's very possibly just some stylistic flair.

Reason I say "nothing sticks out as morse" is that yes, there's roughly two distinct "symbols" in there, but a single morse "letter" never has more than six symbols. If you listen to the recording and pick the "gaps" that would be the space between a morse-encoded letter, the groupings often have more than 6 "symbols", which is no morse I'm aware of.

You have to slow it down... I found using the spectrogram helpful. It's a message
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Hey in Canonn's research of the UA's and UP's did you guys figure out the RP reason on how they maneuver?

I didn't find the PDF link on the front page to double check
 
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Unregistered Comm Beacon in Munfayl System in More's orbit (reporting just in case)

http://i.imgur.com/YceJ9Lw.jpg

Which reminds me of something I'd forgotten. On returning from a recent trip I went into Shinrarta Dezra for the first time & checked out one of the tourist beacons (think it was the Secrecy one) near a planet. Nearby I detected an encoded emisions signal source, dropped in on that & found a satellite but it was quiet. Got distracted by RL, left that instance & haven't been back since. Is this a new ESS, or something known?
 
Hey in Canonn's research of the UA's and UP's did you guys figure out the RP reason on how they maneuver?

I didn't find the PDF link on the front page to double check

Definitive answer? I don't think we have one.

If you mean how they reorient towards Merope, then there's really no clue. Some handwavium explanation involving local gravity field manipulation perhaps - might explain the distortion.

As for the 'movement' around systems - well my explanation, based on them being manufactured, is that they are simply placed where they're found.

UAs were placed by a massive human fleet in secret over a long period of time. UPs might also have been; or if they're of 'true' alien origin, then the aliens themselves did the same.

Obviously the UA explanation presupposes that you accept the idea that they're human-made - which as you'll have noticed over the last few pages is a subject of much debate.
 
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I spent some time looking at the ships that were destroyed out there in HIP 17044. Pretty cool to see it all.

My question is this: where are the pilots and crew of those ships? The cockpits are empty, at least the ones I could see into.

Short vid of my visit if you're interested --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2mz02YI6WQ

Perhaps the organic infestations have been cleansed, or McThargoids is serving extra thick pilotburgers?
 
Anyone notice that Merope 5c matches all the criteria for a Guardians ruins body?

Coincidence? Yeah, probably!

No, I think Merope5C is at the heart of this. We've never found anything there but the odd orbit, focus for both UA and UP pointing, use of its characteristics in the UP signal to Col70...it is all very suggestive of it being special. I have in the past speculated it might be the remains of one of the 3 Guardian arc ships (quite possibly spherical as that gives the highest volume per investment in hull area) which has accreted dust and meteorites over millennia to now appear like a rocky moon. The downside of this hypothesis is that some aspect of an artificial nature should probably still be visible but we never found anything.
 
I think the speculation is that the headline feature in 3.0 is gas giants. And they've announced that 3.0 is about revisiting the core gameplay (exploration/trading/etc) so there may not be a headline feature as such.

Obsidian Ant's video of his recent visit to FD suggests they might depart from the Seasons sales model, so there might not be a 3.0
 
Definitive answer? I don't think we have one.

If you mean how they reorient towards Merope, then there's really no clue. Some handwavium explanation involving local gravity field manipulation perhaps - might explain the distortion.

As for the 'movement' around systems - well my explanation, based on them being manufactured, is that they are simply placed where they're found.

UAs were placed by a massive human fleet in secret over a long period of time. UPs might also have been; or if they're of 'true' alien origin, then the aliens themselves did the same.

Obviously the UA explanation presupposes that you accept the idea that they're human-made - which as you'll have noticed over the last few pages is a subject of much debate.

I'm gonna skip over the conspiracy theories and focus on the handwavium. :p

If it's based in a local gravity manipulation then when Thargoids open those "holes" close to the planets surface, the visual effects remind me of magnetic field depictions.
The stars near the ship seem to duplicate the "twinning" effect like on the fireflies of UA's and UP's near each other could be a gravitational lensing effect.

Could the acceleration on the spin actually be time dilation caused by a strong gravitational force?
Do you think they boost their own hyperdrives with electromagnetic energy (much like how we use the pulsars to boost our own FSD's) but on a scale which simultaneously shuts down our ships?
 
No, I think Merope5C is at the heart of this. We've never found anything there but the odd orbit, focus for both UA and UP pointing, use of its characteristics in the UP signal to Col70...it is all very suggestive of it being special. I have in the past speculated it might be the remains of one of the 3 Guardian arc ships (quite possibly spherical as that gives the highest volume per investment in hull area) which has accreted dust and meteorites over millennia to now appear like a rocky moon. The downside of this hypothesis is that some aspect of an artificial nature should probably still be visible but we never found anything.

Hmm, Merope 5C is Raxxla and we still don't know, what to do with it :cool:
 
Well, given how long it's taken for this whole alien story to progress, don't give up yet.

a) New sites are still being found
b) There's no guarantee we've found everything Guardian-related that's out there yet.

Yeah, the site I have been using seemed to have about 30 different systems, whereas canonn's list has more like 50

might just draw a straight line through the various clusters, fly along it and see what I might find. hopefully the "never visited" filter on the space map should help avoid repeat surveying. just hope there is something out there rather than get back to the bubble to find FDev have flipped a continue story switch.

There was a nice 3D viewer available off of the Canonn site, but my old bookmark no longer works for me. Anyone know if this is still available?

I am aware someone did a 3d model of at least one of the ruins, I was meaning more making a model of the locations of the systems. sort of like the star map but majorly stripped back
 
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