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They are not normal, but you will notice most terrorism in the world is done in the name of christianity and Islam rather than in the name of liberals....just saying.
All those things you mentioned, i'm very left wing and liberal, i follow left wing US media, no one supports those acts or suggestions you mentioned.
To make politics becomes really dangerous. Today in France a deputy has been assaulted in a market. She remained unconscious for 10 minutes. The aggressor is the bald guy on the right of the photo
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So when Gabby Giffords got shot in the head, the political peace remained intact? Remember "Don't retreat, reload!" ?
You are right that there have been exhortations to violence. From the top.
From Donald J. Trump. Your President. It doesn't get higher than that.
Remember the assaults at the rallies? Remember he offered to pay the legal costs of the attacks? ( of course, he didn't. He never spends on little people.)
When Greg Gianforte hospitalized a reporter, it wasn't a minion. It was a GOP congressman, endorsed by Trump, and voted for by his supporters. He raised money from the attack. His campaign denied he was guilty. They smeared the reporter.
Remember when the restrictions voted for by the previous Admin, to restrict mentally ill people
from getting guns was overturned by Trump? And voted for by Scalise?
Well it's come around. This is Karma baby. This is a country with the infamous second Amendment, nut cases with guns, and Presidential incitement of violence.
YOU GUYS voted for all of it.
For Gianforte, for Scalise, for Trump, and for widespread gun availability.
I've been trying to tell you it's a bad series of ideas. That this would happen, because IT DID
BEFORE, with Giffords. But this seems to be the kind of country that the population really really wants.
Maybe you should think it over.
Because it's always a shocker when you realize that the OTHER SIDE has guns too. Whoops.
Let's just hope Scalise survives and recovers. Nobody deserves this.
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Ah, how I love American politics.
"THEY are evil!"
"No, THEY are evil!"
"But THEY are more violent!"
"No, THEY are more violent!"
"YOU are stupid!"
"No, YOU are stupid!"
Boy, I wonder why the quality of your politicians is so poor with such an amazing people partaking in the elections each time.
"THEY are evil!"
"No, THEY are evil!"
"But THEY are more violent!"
"No, THEY are more violent!"
"YOU are stupid!"
"No, YOU are stupid!"
Boy, I wonder why the quality of your politicians is so poor with such an amazing people partaking in the elections each time.
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"Lenin wanted to destroy the state, and that's my goal too.I want to bring everything down, destroy all of today's establishments."
-Bannon, Trumps main adviser.
"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody I wouldn't lose any votes."
-Trump
"Violence does, in truth, recoil upon the violent, and the schemer falls in to the pit he digs for another."
- Arthur Conan Doyle
-Bannon, Trumps main adviser.
"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody I wouldn't lose any votes."
-Trump
"Violence does, in truth, recoil upon the violent, and the schemer falls in to the pit he digs for another."
- Arthur Conan Doyle
Selection Bias.
Folks tend to not remember events that are counter to their world view and escalate events that confirm it.
No group is immune from this fundamental human nature, it's a manifestation of the chemical cocktail in your brain that evolved to balance risk in eating or confronting something new versus sticking to known safe behavior, very similar to chemicals that control the balance between mixing with other groups for new genetic material vs conflict with other groups for resource control. We see the latter manifest as xenophobia and racism but it's really just highly evolved monkeys deciding whether the other monkeys are safe to mate with or are trying to steal our berries.
So if you find yourself thinking 'my group good, your group bad' just remember you are almost certainly simply a pawn of the particular chemicals in your brain and not a rational being.
The downside is it creates conflict, the upside is it creates really excellent art, music and science. The Thargoids are at a disadvantage there. As a hive mind they're tactically fantastic but their strategy is one dimensional, their art is nearly non-existent and their music sounds like a bunch of bees mating with a vuvuzela.
Folks tend to not remember events that are counter to their world view and escalate events that confirm it.
No group is immune from this fundamental human nature, it's a manifestation of the chemical cocktail in your brain that evolved to balance risk in eating or confronting something new versus sticking to known safe behavior, very similar to chemicals that control the balance between mixing with other groups for new genetic material vs conflict with other groups for resource control. We see the latter manifest as xenophobia and racism but it's really just highly evolved monkeys deciding whether the other monkeys are safe to mate with or are trying to steal our berries.
So if you find yourself thinking 'my group good, your group bad' just remember you are almost certainly simply a pawn of the particular chemicals in your brain and not a rational being.
The downside is it creates conflict, the upside is it creates really excellent art, music and science. The Thargoids are at a disadvantage there. As a hive mind they're tactically fantastic but their strategy is one dimensional, their art is nearly non-existent and their music sounds like a bunch of bees mating with a vuvuzela.
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I don't disagree with you, I also condemned all the mentioned cases you describe.
My point, someone need to stop, if not it will be a spiral of hate and violence. As one who was in the middle of the Balkan civil war i can tell you from first hand experience, if the line is crossed, there are no return. The Balkan War was confined to a relative small area, if we get a full blown conflict in the US no one can stop it. It will spill over to countries outside the US and many people will be surprised what the human race is capable of.
If the thin fabric of law and order disappears in the US, so will yours. We are not there yet, but this is not helping.
BTW the gun part of your post I respectfully disagree with.
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Really, what kind of person are you? Telling people not to complain if there is a reaction? What does this even mean, are you going to react yourself by doing something like this? Is it a call to likeminded nutjobs to shoot some democrats? What are you trying to say here?
Open your eyes. It's not left against right, christians against muslims, reds versus blues. It's civilization against idiots. Stop reacting like one of the latter please.
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I think that's unlikely. The rhetoric and violence in the 60s and early 70s regarding civil rights and the Vietnam War was many many times worse, in a 25 year span from the 60s to the 80s one president was assassinated, one presidential candidate was assassinated, one presidential assassination (Ford) was attempted but the gun misfired and one president was shot (Reagan). In the 30 years since it's been pretty tame.
The fundamental difference between then and now is not the level of vitriol among the general public, it's the level of amplification fringe groups receive through 24 hour news cycle and social media. In the 60s, 70s and 80s news was local, you mostly heard about local events regarding some cat that could do a weird trick and the local zoning commission meeting, you rarely heard about events in other states if it was very substantial and only wars in other countries.
Now news is global so it feels like some horrible crap is going down all around you all the time, it isn't, it's just a mentally ill nutjob and local events are still mostly cats and zoning commission with a bit of prescription drug misuse epidemic thrown in.
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Are you even capable of reading english? I think you got the words upside down mate.
Maybe this keyboard belongs to you?
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Really? I'd noticed a hate campaign coming from Trump and his cronies aimed at pretty much all the press except Fox news.
A deranged nutter is a deranged nutter. He is not representative of the left at all, and you know it. Linking to Daily Mail articles is never going to give you any credibility.
so you speak for every single left wing liberal out there?
Actually, quite representative of the "2nd amendment people" -wink, wink, youknowwhatIeam, wink, wink- : http://www.snopes.com/rand-paul-tweet-second-amendment-purpose-shoot-tyrannical-government/
That's an awesome excuse there.
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Every single genuine left wing liberal hates violence and terror (unlike the right who promote it).
From your OP: May I congratulate all of you who have hoped for this to happen, now don't complain if there will be a reaction to this.
Of course people will complain if there is a reaction to this. That's what sane people do. You seem to be so caught up in your hate against 'liberals' that you've lost sight of who the real enemy is.
Even your own president is trying to close the ranks, might I suggest you follow his example?
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nonsense, I've seen plenty of vids of UAF CAUSING the real violence in a protest at BNP/EDL in the UK. e.g. a Bus of EDL supporters attacked where the bus was damaged and windows smashed by the peace loving lefties....Police came along and arrested the people in the bus (typical). I've seen pictures of all the recent left wing rallies and seen the pure vile hatred in the faces of many there. Face it, left wing is becoming as bad as the thing it hates and those in the middle just look at both the extremes and shake our heads. At least the far right arn't hypocrites, unlike the lefties.
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