Yaffle
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Is it 'if you can't do the time, then don't do the crime'?
FDev, you just upset a *lot* of people.
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Is it 'if you can't do the time, then don't do the crime'?
Aye, I'm reserving judgement atm.
But just to say about folk saying it's unfair.
Other companies would have perma-banned the players from online. Can you see Valve or Blizzard letting players get away with it when they are "oh I was just curious".
It's all your fault?
(Sorry, but everybody and their dog is blaming you for everything. While I don't know you personally I hope it's OK for you that I make that joke. If not, please remove this post.)
Get punished for cheating, but the guys doing the punishing will screw it up?
How many compared to ones not missed?
Probably a good idea to send in a report to FD so that they can make a second pass.
If by screw up you mean let the cheating scum get away with barely any consequences - yes.
This is pretty standard from any MMO I've played (even missing some products of exploits). Maybe people shouldn't use exploits?
Too bad so sad IMO...
People who still have exploited modules should count their lucky stars, people who lost more than those modules should learn their lesson.
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I'm seeing a distinct lack of sympathy for anyone who has lost their modules.
All I can is GREAT (like Tony the Tiger). The punishment for cheating (and that's what it is, no way to get around it) should be harsh to act as a deterrent. They could have went further (personally I would support account wipes) but what has reportedly been done hopefully shows they can get serious about the cheating when FDev want to.
Last I looked this was a game that has no 'I win' conditions or ending. There may be faults but anyone can blaze their own trail, so I don't understand the mentality of those who actively cheat and use exploits to get ahead in a race that doesn't exist!
PS Agony Aunt - +1 to your counter as my bunting is in process of being put up on house windows!
All I can is GREAT (like Tony the Tiger). The punishment for cheating (and that's what it is, no way to get around it) should be harsh to act as a deterrent. They could have went further (personally I would support account wipes) but what has reportedly been done hopefully shows they can get serious about the cheating when FDev want to.
Last I looked this was a game that has no 'I win' conditions or ending. There may be faults but anyone can blaze their own trail, so I don't understand the mentality of those who actively cheat and use exploits to get ahead in a race that doesn't exist!
PS Agony Aunt - +1 to your counter as my bunting is in process of being put up on house windows!
So you are saying that the punishment isn't fair?
Are we talking about cheaters/exploiters here, who now want to be treated 'fairly'?
For people who perhaps thought it would be interesting to see how it worked then yes, perhaps a bit extreme, though you know, perhaps not 'just see' how obvious bug exploits work..
Other than that I've not too much sympathy to be honest.
A more targeted adjustment would probably be better, I agree, but I've no idea how difficult it would be for FD to unpick things more precisely or if it is even possible at all.
Perhaps something of an over-correction in this case is reasonable if it would otherwise be at all time consuming - I'd prefer they get on with other things rather than spend a lot of dev effort on this.
Other than that I've not too much sympathy to be honest.
A more targeted adjustment would probably be better, I agree, but I've no idea how difficult it would be for FD to unpick things more precisely or if it is even possible at all.
Perhaps something of an over-correction in this case is reasonable if it would otherwise be at all time consuming - I'd prefer they get on with other things rather than spend a lot of dev effort on this.
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Seeing as this now looks legit and they did act I will be Happy to say thumbs up FD [up]. Just as a caveat maybe a bit sooner after you get the initial report next time, save a lot of forum hand-bagging.
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Losing something that you cheated to get is not a punishment.
If anything the cheats should consider themselves extremely lucky that they haven't received a genuine punishment for deliberate and repeated breaching of the T.O.S.
The ones I feel sorry for are the genuine and honest PVP players. There is still no way to distinguish them from the cheats they are being forced to compete against.
If anything the cheats should consider themselves extremely lucky that they haven't received a genuine punishment for deliberate and repeated breaching of the T.O.S.
The ones I feel sorry for are the genuine and honest PVP players. There is still no way to distinguish them from the cheats they are being forced to compete against.
It is not possible at all. FD has absolutely no way to measure the intent of the commander who used the exploit.
However, as I said in a previous post, as far as I am concerned anyone using the exploit for "curiosity" is equally guilty to those that used it for gain.
So.. OP... What did you learn?
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