Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn

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LordZoltan

LordZoltan
The thing is, if the left image is the Merope system (which it undoubtedly is), and the diagram clearly shows the UA pointing at that - then the right hand image - if it's describing the same relationship for the UP - should be a representation of Merope 5C. But that's patently wrong.

So perhaps it's not where the UP points, but the system described by the data that the UP transmits.

The unknown link, too, must logically have data available that we can get out of it which provides the literal 'link'
 

Jmanis

Jmanis
Hope you guys realise I'm foregoing a good nights sleep and potential victory in an election for control for the SEF to get out there and take a poke ;)

Can someone clear up though, that site 5 activation, you don't need to bring a UP, UA and UL there right? You just need a UA to get in there?

EDIT: NM, just read MadRaptor's post. Well,,, ungh. Where's the UL coming from?
 
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CMDR Ofan

CMDR Ofan
CMDR MadRaptor said:
Here is a High Res, flipped version of the activated chamber.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4210/34725232944_83372d3833_o.jpg

And video:

[video]https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=Csas6F9gMrk&feature=share[/url]

Expanded Instructions:

With UA and UP in SRV Hold, enter the central structure.

Inside the structure there are two chambers, a central chamber, and a side chamber.

Take your UA and UP into the side chamber, there will be three pedestals. As long as you have the UA and UP in your hold, once you approach the pedestals, there should even be circular plate in front of them, the UL (Unknown Links) should drop down, held up by three spindly energy beam. You will need to shot the UL to dislodge it so you can pick it up.

Go to the main chamber, in the main chamber there will be a large central statue and three pedestals with floating orbs. In front of each pedestal are green circular plates, when you drive your SRV on top of those plates the orb in the pedestal will change to a hologram of the item needed, jettison the correct item for each pedestal.

Once all items are in the correct spot, the central structure will glow orange.

The central structure is called an Unknown Device, again, once all parts our in place you will then scan the unknown device and it will complete the puzzle and show you a display of a spiral galaxy.
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Buggy game is buggy for me they (UL) spawn but are invisible and cannot be interacted with beyond shooting them down :S
 
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RedWizzard

RedWizzard
Jmanis said:
Hope you guys realise I'm foregoing a good nights sleep and potential victory in an election for control for the SEF to get out there and take a poke ;)

Can someone clear up though, that site 5 activation, you don't need to bring a UP, UA and UL there right? You just need a UA to get in there?

EDIT: NM, just read MadRaptor's post. Well,,, ungh. Where's the UL coming from?
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UL can be found on site apparently. Think you need to bring the others.
 

JesusRocks1988

JesusRocks1988
LordZoltan said:
The thing is, if the left image is the Merope system (which it undoubtedly is), and the diagram clearly shows the UA pointing at that - then the right hand image - if it's describing the same relationship for the UP - should be a representation of Merope 5C. But that's patently wrong.

So perhaps it's not where the UP points, but the system described by the data that the UP transmits.

The unknown link, too, must logically have data available that we can get out of it which provides the literal 'link'
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Someone with a UL needs to do some honking and space science with it - see if it points anywhere, see if it reacts to being honked; take it to Merope and see if it changes at all. Pretty much all the tests that have been done with the UA and UP need to be performed on the UL.
 

AnotherVoice

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I got 3 degraded signal source with only scrap in it while still being in the SoI of the amonia planet i'm orbiting. This is , i'm filling a bug report
 
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rizal72

rizal72
I made my version of the spectrogram, and put it on the FP (a bit clearer):

UtZqPQK.png


WHAT ABOUT THE SYSTEM MAP ON THE RIGHT?
 
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LordZoltan

LordZoltan
slartybartfast said:
So a UA = --I
a UP = -I-
And a UL = I--

So what = II- ?
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I think it might be meant to be read left to right:

UA + UL = UP

Or

--I + -I- = -II

If binary, then 001 + 010 = 011

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Xenia_K said:
Nope

UA = --I (001 =1)
UL = -I- (010 =2)
UP = -II (011 =3)
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^ Exactly :)

It's a bit like some crypto methods where Alice and Bob exchange the result of XORing two pieces of data - they both know their half of the data, and by exchanging the XORed product of those with a key, they can both validate that they have the same key (that's massively simplified!).

Because if you have:

001 (UA) & 011 (UP)

You can synthesise the UL - as the little side-room factories do inside the chamber, simply by doing:

001 ^ 011 = 010

(^ being XOR for the purposes of this post)

Taking that to its logical conclusion - the unknown link contains parts which are found in either the UA or the UP, but not in both.
 
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M. Volgrand

M. Volgrand
CMDR MadRaptor said:
Here is a High Res, flipped version of the activated chamber.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4210/34725232944_83372d3833_o.jpg

And video:

[video]https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=Csas6F9gMrk&feature=share[/url]

Expanded Instructions:

With UA and UP in SRV Hold, enter the central structure.

Inside the structure there are two chambers, a central chamber, and a side chamber.

Take your UA and UP into the side chamber, there will be three pedestals. As long as you have the UA and UP in your hold, once you approach the pedestals, there should even be circular plate in front of them, the UL (Unknown Links) should drop down, held up by three spindly energy beam. You will need to shot the UL to dislodge it so you can pick it up.

Go to the main chamber, in the main chamber there will be a large central statue and three pedestals with floating orbs. In front of each pedestal are green circular plates, when you drive your SRV on top of those plates the orb in the pedestal will change to a hologram of the item needed, jettison the correct item for each pedestal.

Once all items are in the correct spot, the central structure will glow orange.

The central structure is called an Unknown Device, again, once all parts our in place you will then scan the unknown device and it will complete the puzzle and show you a display of a spiral galaxy.
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Something interesting there: The "alien galactic map" actually only shows one two galactic arm. If we see our maps, the milky way actually has 4 galactic arms forming an spiral.


http://imgur.com/UJCWhYT


So, my question is, if this is our galaxy, What arm is it showing?
 
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Xenia_K

Xenia_K
AnotherVoice said:
I got 3 degraded signal source with only scrap in it while still being in the SoI of the amonia planet i'm orbiting. This is , i'm filling a bug report
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Nope - thats normal - only roughly 8% of all USS spawning in SOI of Ammonia Planets are actually USS degraded emission thread 2 (UP´s) the rest is normal stuff like distress calls, encoded emissions etc.
 
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Unbreakable

Unbreakable
Davanix said:
The logo is cone nebula not barnards loop
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Maybe its the Thargoid Stamp of approval from the QA department.

Tomtom said:
There appears to be some confusion with regards to Thargoids now about what is canon and what isn't. It may help to verify which sources can and can't be taken as fact. In the Lavecon video Sandro does not mention two different species, but he does state that the Thargoids that we have now are the same Thargoids as in the original 1984 game. That could mean that the novella Elite: The Dark Wheel by Robert Holdstock (which was bundled with the game) is canon; if so, this has very interesting implications.

That story briefly mentions the Oresrians, but it is the information about the Thargoids that is most interesting. The immature form, known as Tharglets, is described as parasitic. It lives inside a host, and:

The tendrils reaching into the host's brain suggests that they may be able to influence or even control the host.

They could be anywhere. They could be anyone. They could be pulling all the strings, see the silly humans dance!
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Also it was said this game picks up after FFE. So whatever tharggles you were playing with in FFE could be the same as what we have now.

Jorki Rasalas said:
That could make sense of Ricardo Bentonio's claim (28Jan3303) that Aliens Walk Among Us "I have been reliably informed that the Thargoids have been exerting direct influence over human society. Everything that is happening is unfolding according to their plan. Soon, it will be too late!”

so Halsey, Jaques etc may be obeying Tharglet control.....
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That sounds more like the Dynasty Conspiracy, perhaps when they said something sinister was pulling the strings and the federation and empire were puppets they meant literally, Thargoids. Dynasty Conspiracy solved.

Jmanis said:
- Barnacles still have that marking that most closely (imo) resembles Barnard's Loop (mostly permit locked), and Thargoids have an interest in Barnacles. If Thargoid wrecks have been found on planet surfaces full of UAs, surely there's got to be some sort of connection also between barnacles and UAs (and UPs?)
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BARNAcles, BARNArds, i see the connection. Perhaps the Thargs call them Barnards and stamp them to look like it.
 
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