Unfortunately away from computer at this time.....but what happens to the view of our galaxy as we apply different filters to it and zoom all the way out? I've never applied filters and zoomed very far out, since I use the filters for "more local travel". Does the galmap still look basically the same, or does it more closely resemble the star map in the chamber? Not sure which/how many filters to apply, but if adding filters actually removes systems in the galmap when it's zoomed all the way out might give a resultant map that looks like the one in the chamber.
Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn
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Unfortunately away from computer at this time.....but what happens to the view of our galaxy as we apply different filters to it and zoom all the way out? I've never applied filters and zoomed very far out, since I use the filters for "more local travel". Does the galmap still look basically the same, or does it more closely resemble the star map in the chamber? Not sure which/how many filters to apply, but if adding filters actually removes systems in the galmap when it's zoomed all the way out might give a resultant map that looks like the one in the chamber.
Didn't see it on FP when I looked earlier but am wondering if there's a good summary of how each site was found? I missed last cycle in Electra and am now going to get some guardian items, but if I could see which listening posts were found but also finished, and where they lead--I'd apppreciate it.
Would be good to know if there are perhaps more sites out there undiscovered with different results. And I'm pretty sure Electra is still unsolved (but if it is solved, I'd love to know!).
Would be good to know if there are perhaps more sites out there undiscovered with different results. And I'm pretty sure Electra is still unsolved (but if it is solved, I'd love to know!).
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I tried - nothing.
Thanks.
About relics - i think explanation could be simpler and we shouldn't dig that deep. FD just decided not to program every single interaction and (in the world of Elite) this machine reacts the same to everything, that is not Thargoid Tech. It does nothing until we activate the machine, because actually what we do, is we put a relic inside a gravity well, that accepts everything. We just can't have an animation of that.
Yeah, there is a "hologram" near each of the pillars, but that's maybe just for the sake of a puzzle. It's not accepting UA or UL in UP slot, for exaple, but accepts a relic ? There is no logic in that.
FD just cheated a little and gave us a hint, that Guardians and Thargoids are related and, probably, were enemies. That's all.
But of course i could be wrong.
The more I look at this site, the more I'm thinking there are multiple forms of life here. We've got all the spiky thargoid parts scattered about, we've got the "unknown" parts on the inside of the structure, and we've got the big dark blue space whale things. Several of the scanned messages seem to imply some clashing happening.
"Extensive stress fractures detected. Cause of fractures unknown. Unusual material lining the deviations."
One life for invading another? This message was found on the wall inside the central chamber. Might the unknown device be intruding on some previously established structure?
Also I've gotten messages that detect ammonia bonded molecular chains, and others that detect carbon bonded molecular chains. This pretty much confirms that everything on site isn't of the same origin right?
Edit: also the space whale things seem to have an outer skin that is a different texture than all the thargoid parts. It is more scaly like a fish, whereas the thargoid bits look a bit more like a crocodile. On the inside of the structure the material looks slightly different than any found on the outside so I'm not sure what to think of that.
"Extensive stress fractures detected. Cause of fractures unknown. Unusual material lining the deviations."
One life for invading another? This message was found on the wall inside the central chamber. Might the unknown device be intruding on some previously established structure?
Also I've gotten messages that detect ammonia bonded molecular chains, and others that detect carbon bonded molecular chains. This pretty much confirms that everything on site isn't of the same origin right?
Edit: also the space whale things seem to have an outer skin that is a different texture than all the thargoid parts. It is more scaly like a fish, whereas the thargoid bits look a bit more like a crocodile. On the inside of the structure the material looks slightly different than any found on the outside so I'm not sure what to think of that.
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Still searching HIP 16378. Nothing yet.
Got lulled to sleep by the orbital cruise sound. Will resume tomorrow
Got lulled to sleep by the orbital cruise sound. Will resume tomorrow
Should there be a Guardian connection I'm more inclined to say the Thargoids may be created by the Guardians. It was mentioned earlier in this thread (forget by who) but the more I think about it the more sense it makes.
Guardians specialized in biological warfare. Initially I'd think of ways of altering genes or making viruses, but it would also make sense to make another intelligent creature that acted like a slave, hunting and harvesting for their creators. Guardians seem to have metallic structures while there is repeated mention of Thargoids having organic ships, and visual evidence of organic structures.
It seems a bit far-fetched but I suppose it's just an idea like any other.
edit: and would make sense that so much Thargoid tech deteriorates metallic ships/stations as the Guardians would have used the Thargoids against other Guardian factions.
edit 2: perhaps the barnacles are created by the guardians?
Guardians specialized in biological warfare. Initially I'd think of ways of altering genes or making viruses, but it would also make sense to make another intelligent creature that acted like a slave, hunting and harvesting for their creators. Guardians seem to have metallic structures while there is repeated mention of Thargoids having organic ships, and visual evidence of organic structures.
It seems a bit far-fetched but I suppose it's just an idea like any other.
edit: and would make sense that so much Thargoid tech deteriorates metallic ships/stations as the Guardians would have used the Thargoids against other Guardian factions.
edit 2: perhaps the barnacles are created by the guardians?
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Maybe the Thargoids were created and enslaved by the guardians. They rebelled. Killed the creators?
Sorry to clutter the thread, but is circling the ammonia worlds listed on the front page the best way to get UP's?
Here is my 2.5 cents. The map is Thargoid space. It co-exists with our space but it is out of phase. We can't see it. I wonder if it exists only in witch space and when we make a hyper space jump we are essentially taking a short cut through their space.
Perhaps there is a way to overlay their galaxy map on ours? Perhaps there are even certain points at which these two galaxy's join.
Perhaps there is a way to overlay their galaxy map on ours? Perhaps there are even certain points at which these two galaxy's join.
Perhaps V just represents the combination of the Link Probe and Artefact? I wouldn't believe it would be the actual letter 'V'.
I was thinking this..
If those are actual Thargoid bases, why theres no one to defend them? One would think that when you build a base, you defend it, simple as that.
They seem to be active, at least one of them, but still all we had was couple of Thargoid arrivals at the location scanning, or staring the SRV, but nothing more.
What if those are just scrapyards? They look like one. Thargoids might use them to salvage spare parts or something like that.
But i really, really doubt that those are actual Thargoid bases. Just my 2 c.
If those are actual Thargoid bases, why theres no one to defend them? One would think that when you build a base, you defend it, simple as that.
They seem to be active, at least one of them, but still all we had was couple of Thargoid arrivals at the location scanning, or staring the SRV, but nothing more.
What if those are just scrapyards? They look like one. Thargoids might use them to salvage spare parts or something like that.
But i really, really doubt that those are actual Thargoid bases. Just my 2 c.
I was thinking this..
If those are actual Thargoid bases, why theres no one to defend them? One would think that when you build a base, you defend it, simple as that.
They seem to be active, at least one of them, but still all we had was couple of Thargoid arrivals at the location scanning, or staring the SRV, but nothing more.
What if those are just scrapyards? They look like one. Thargoids might use them to salvage spare parts or something like that.
But i really, really doubt that those are actual Thargoid bases. Just my 2 c.
I agree. The main thing going on here is scavengers harvesting material from the whale looking things, stripping them down to bones, then dripping the goo in little piles near where they do the harvesting and also inside the structure, on eggs or just on the floor. Can't comprehend what the unknown device's function is other than displaying information to us.
How about a counter-culture movement within the hive mind that spawned off a sub-caste of 'goids. They sent out UA's then UP's. More info inside based on my exploring of the structure...
Based on the Inbox messages received from scanning the uplinks in the structure, this structure was a ship and it was attacked. Therefore, based on this theory, it was attacked by other 'goids who did not approve. The scavengers have been maintaining what's left functioning in the ship's control room. That's why it reacts favorably to humans using Thargoid tech on the device and unfavorably when we put Relic tech in there.
On the UL spectro, it looks like --| refers to UA
-|| refers to UP
and -|- refers to UL
cross-checking with UP spectro, UP, -|| broadcasts to planet surface, or scans the planetary surface.
UA, --| is shown with a line to center of circle, perhaps referencing local scanning.
So, where would that leave |-- ? shown with 2 radial lines projecting from circle? A new type of probe? Attack vectors for Thargoid ships?
Also what can be made of UL, -|-? Shown with an arc over circle, what else might this device do?
If it's a mothership, and it's in the process of being dead and buried by those scavengers; then those messages we're getting about unknown substances would seem to hint at the reason for why the thing ended up on a planet surface.
What if the flowerships are just like us? They also are only just discovering this for themselves, like we are with the fedship wrecks?
It was suggested about 20 pages back: Mycoid.
Perhaps we're looking at a Mycoid aftermath here, and perhaps the spectrograms indicate where it came from, in order for any Thargoid ships arriving later to be able to find it and destroy it.
Perhaps the UAs and UPs and ULs are a last-gasp attempt by life forms in their death-throes to make contact, like an SOS.
If so, when the flower ships finally figure it out, then we're all for it.
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Guys I'm unable to play at present. Has anyone considered if the new spectrogram may relate to soontil? How about if you bring the relics to the chamber, would it react?
Since these are "large wreck sites" according to the UL etc descriptions then this is it exactly. Large Thargoid ships which succumbed to mycoid and crashed. Whether the scavengers are scavenging for their own purpose or executing repairs remains to be seen.
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