Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn

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Strangepork

Strangepork
CMDR Codexghost said:
OOOoooohhh. I think I just had a revelation based on this discussion...

Things we know:
* UA and UP points to Merope
* We know that the UP has distance from Col 70
* We know the UPs are found near ammonia worlds
* We know the located wrecks / bases so far have (all or most) been located near ammonia worlds
* UP either receives or transmits from / to Merope
* UP contains details about planets (atmosphere, etc.) and distance data from Col 70 and are found near ammonia worlds
* UAs contain scan details from nearby planets objects
* ULs are built from UA + UP

Possible conclusions:

* UAs purpose is general search for suitable planetary bodies
* UPs purpose is detailed data from ammonia bodies and their distance from Col 70
* Resulting data from UAs / UPs is transmitted somewhere (Merope? Col 70? wreck / base?)
* For suitable planetary bodies (or whatever exactly they're looking for, ammonia worlds?) the good UAs and UPs are combined to form a UL at the wreck / base sites.
* The UL is encoded with location data for suitable systems (for colonization? location of reactivated sites? )
* Thargoid ships use the ULs to navigate or send ??? to those sites. Setup / reactivate the base / wreck sites. Those sites are used for more expansion.

Others:
* If both UA and UP transmit scout data to Merope - could the binary 123 in the middle of the spectragram also depict transmission from Merope to Col 70? Perhaps Merope is a relay station?
* Purpose of the sites / wrecks we've been finding would be to collect UAs with good data, or produce UAs (perhaps explaining high UA spawn rate in orbit), combine with suitable UPs
* The thargoid ship sightings at the base / wreck sites. Could this be the thargoid ships picking up newly produce ULs through the top opening, in order to navigate to new locations encoded in the UL???

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TL;DR: Theory: UAs / UPs are probes to find suitable systems > UA + UP = UL with coordinates for suitable system > thargoids using ULs to expand to additional systems / navigation. Wrecks / sites are used by thargoids to build ULs with coordinates for suitable new bases.
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I think the Unknown Link and developments of the past few days has an importance which is being overlooked.

We have spent a great deal of time discussing where Probes and Artefacts point to:

NOW in the last few days CMDRs have been actually placing them in alien machines and linking them with unknown consequences.

Personally I'm a little uncomfortable with the idea folks of pressing the grimy buttons haphazardly doing more dubious experimental science with these devices. I think we may well be summoning the demon here.

Another diagram embedded in sound occurs. To my eyes it appears to be a final step and a completion of the trail.

Long dormant, humans have now activated, the alien machines, and maybe this foolhardy act is in fact the transmission point of the gathered data.

P.S. There aren't nearly enough pigs in this thread.
 
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CMDR Ofan

CMDR Ofan
john willi said:
I think the Unknown Link and developments of the past few days has an importance which is being overlooked.

We have spent a great deal of time discussing where Probes and Artefacts point to:

NOW in the last few days CMDRs have been actually placing them in alien machines and linking them with unknown consequences.

Personally I'm a little uncomfortable with the idea folks of pressing the grimy buttons haphazardly doing more dubious experimental science with these devices.

I think we may well be summoning the demon here.

Another diagram embedded in sound occurs.

To my eyes it appears to be a final step and a completion of the trail.

Long dormant, humans have now activated, the alien machines, and maybe this foolhardy act is in fact the transmission point of the gathered data.
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TBH it seems more like the machines/devices have had this purpose all along and the goids have probably been doing it without us anyway. We are just eavesdropping on their activity. I think it's a common error in our thought process to assume that our actions at this stage are important as though we will somehow awaken the goids, they are clearly already awake prior to this, popping ships, pulling people over and scanning them and other such alien hijinks.

The UP, UA and UL all have a purpose outside of our interests and given there exists specialised machinery to fulfill it which the goids clearly built and use us clicking a few buttons here or there or breaking into their network to spatial-locate them is the least of our worries.

Demon is already here, going through your bins, checking you out and watching you from behind bushes at night, marshalling its strength to do something alien and wacky.
 

Neakas

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Neakas said:
I have the Audio recording from the Narrow Beam of the Message from Site 6 that responds in Site 7:

https://mega.nz/#!i0k2iAoJ!MFCRFbXNBHmAjzsTH9tNBB8x07jCL5ws0tCS4ysRC70

So its Audio from Site 6: MEL 22 SECTOR ZU-P C5-1 4 A | -63.5 8.02
Message 2
That points to Site 7: Mel 22 Sector NX-U D2-27 5 A | -39.8 -56.2

So in the Audio should be the Info for System 7

Edit: If we can match the Code in the Beam to the System we should be able to find any system with ease
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Sooo..I just Checked. It pretty Much fits:

Here is what i did:

-I scanned Site 6 and got 3 Messages.
-I went to System 7 and played all 3 Messages to the UL. Only one Responded, Message 2. So i knew which Message was for System 7.
-I went back to System 6 and did the UL scan again to get the Narrow Beam responds of Message 2 which wouldnt trigger the Laser because i was in the wrong system.
But i knew that this Narrow beam should Contain all the Data for System 7, since i Verified Message 2 was for that system
-Then i did the whole listen to the Binary Code and translate thing from Page 1 and here are my findings:


HLH HLH LLL W HHL LLL LHL HLH 010010111/ 001111101010 151/1002 =0.150698603*871.018=131.2611956
HLL HLL W HHL LLL LHL HLH 011011/001111101010 27/1002 =0.026946108*871.018=23.47054491
HHL LLH LHL HHL W HHL LLL LWL HLL 001110101001/001111101011 937/1003=0.934197408*871.018=813.7027577

The Corresponding Real Distances for System 7 Mel 22 Sector NX-U D2-27 5 A are:

Merope: 131.18
Point of Origin (System 6 MEL 22 SECTOR ZU-P C5-1 4): 23.92
Col 70: 816.15

Close enough?

Edit: Im Pretty sure i got a High or Low wrong at the End wich might lead to some slight number drift
 
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Neakas

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Neakas said:
Sooo..I just Checked. It pretty Much fits:

Here is what i did:

-I scanned Site 6 and got 3 Messages.
-I went to System 7 and played all 3 Messages to the UL. Only one Responded, Message 2. So i knew which Message was for System 7.
-I went back to System 6 and did the UL scan again to get the Narrow Beam responds of Message 2 which wouldnt trigger the Laser because i was in the wrong system.
But i knew that this Narrow beam should Contain all the Data for System 7, since i Verified Message 2 was for that system
-Then i did the whole listen to the Binary Code and translate thing from Page 1 and here are my findings:


HLH HLH LLL W HHL LLL LHL HLH 010010111/ 001111101010 151/1002 =0.150698603*871.018=131.2611956
HLL HLL W HHL LLL LHL HLH 011011/001111101010 27/1002 =0.026946108*871.018=23.47054491
HHL LLH LHL HHL W HHL LLL LWL HLL 001110101001/001111101011 937/1003=0.934197408*871.018=813.7027577

The Corresponding Real Distances for System 7 Mel 22 Sector NX-U D2-27 5 A are:

Merope: 131.18
Point of Origin (System 6 MEL 22 SECTOR ZU-P C5-1 4): 23.92
Col 70: 816.15

Close enough?
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Which means in return, that if you get the Second part of one Message you know the Distance from Origin to Search :)
 

CMDR Codexghost

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CMDR Codexghost said:
OOOoooohhh. I think I just had a revelation based on this discussion...

Edit 2: If these sites are "wrecks" of thargoid ships... Perhaps new ships are loaded with a UL, instructed to fly to the UL encoded location, and what we're seeing is the partial end-state of those ships landing on the planet, the navigation room with the functionality to build ULs for navigation from suitable UA and UP components still there - matches with the star map that shows up.
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Looking at the spectragram again I think this makes sense. Consider the systems on the left and right as an expanded view of how navigation works to go from the bottom system to the top system. http://imgur.com/a/9Ujo9
 

Gopherboy

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Completely random theory...
What if the sites are not technically 'wrecks' but flower ships which have landed and re-purposed as relays/info storage or a sort of production facility for the UP's, UR, etc.
The scavengers are simply disassembling remaining ship material and recycling it as probe building/conversion materials??

Edit: Realised it's a similar observation as CMDR Codexghost.
 
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Wace

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Neakas said:
HLH HLH LLL W HHL LLL LHL HLH 010010111/ 001111101010 151/1002 =0.150698603*871.018=131.2611956
HLL HLL W HHL LLL LHL HLH 011011/001111101010 27/1002 =0.026946108*871.018=23.47054491
HHL LLH LHL HHL W HHL LLL LWL HLL 001110101001/001111101011 937/1003=0.934197408*871.018=813.7027577

The Corresponding Real Distances for System 7 Mel 22 Sector NX-U D2-27 5 A are:

Merope: 131.18
Point of Origin (System 6 MEL 22 SECTOR ZU-P C5-1 4): 23.92
Col 70: 816.15

Close enough?
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Not close enough. But there's errors in your decoding - the numbers are always fractions of 1000 in a reduced form, your fractions of 1002 and 1003 do not fit in this pattern. I'm fairly certain all of those binary patterns should be 001111101000 (HHL LLL LHL HHH) - but there might also be decoding errors in the numerators.
 

Neakas

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Wace said:
Not close enough. But there's errors in your decoding - the numbers are always fractions of 1000 in a reduced form, your fractions of 1002 and 1003 do not fit in this pattern. I'm fairly certain all of those binary patterns should be 001111101000 (HHL LLL LHL HHH) - but there might also be decoding errors in the numerators.
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Yea a thought so aswell, but dividing by 1000 makes the numbers fit even better. You go ahead and double check it please!
 

rizal72

rizal72
Ra'Kaan said:
Clearly, the "V" indicates a Vogon constructor fleet preparing to build a hyperspace bypass through the human occupied bubble. The plans have been on display in Alpha Centuari for the last 6 months!
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Ah! You are talking to someone whose Corvette's name is "Resistance is Futile", and Anaconda's name is "Vogon's Poetry"

who? said:
So am I right in thinking in the spectrogram:

The UA points at Merope (matches the system in the image)
The UP leads to another system (can't remember which) which presumably matches that system map.
The UL leads to another UL site (which is why the bottom and top images are the same)
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Indeed.

M. Volgrand said:
Spreadsheet is live!

The spreadsheet is public so anyone can edit it. I'm afraid information goes too fast to manage all the required changes on my own :D.
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Thanks, I'll put it on the Front Page.

DMehaffy said:
PS: Ian if you want to update any links on the front page it would be appreciated. :)
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You are missing from this thread for quite some time it seems ;)
 

Strangepork

Strangepork
CMDR Ofan said:
TBH it seems more like the machines/devices have had this purpose all along and the goids have probably been doing it without us anyway. We are just eavesdropping on their activity. I think it's a common error in our thought process to assume that our actions at this stage are important as though we will somehow awaken the goids, they are clearly already awake prior to this, popping ships, pulling people over and scanning them and other such alien hijinks.

The UP, UA and UL all have a purpose outside of our interests and given there exists specialised machinery to fulfill it which the goids clearly built and use us clicking a few buttons here or there or breaking into their network to spatial-locate them is the least of our worries.

Demon is already here, going through your bins, checking you out and watching you from behind bushes at night, marshalling its strength to do something alien and wacky.
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CMDRs are placing Guardian Relics in the Thargoid machines to, lets say, something of an opposite effect.
 

EAGLE 5

EAGLE 5
Gopherboy said:
Completely random theory...
What if the sites are not technically 'wrecks' but flower ships which have landed and re-purposed as relays/info storage or a sort of production facility for the UP's, UR, etc.
The scavengers are simply disassembling remaining ship material and recycling it as probe building/conversion materials??

Edit: Realised it's a similar observation as CMDR Codexghost.
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Interesting idea... I'd like to add that based on personal observation the "crash" or landed object seems of a slightly different design of the active flying "flower" ships. Maybe much older crafts?

graeme.firth said:
Sounds like a lot of fun ;-)
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This seems a lot like poking a hornet's nest with a stick.......

oh wait
 

Shockbot

Shockbot
FYI

A really bad pilot is searching for skills at the "active site" where the star map was found. He is killing everyone.

In my case i wanted back to base so :) thanks
 
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