GQ Magazine "gets" Elite: Dangerous!

I'm in two minds about this. On the one hand the article, particularly the paragraph highlighted in the OP, is an honest appraisal of the game we're currently playing. On the other hand, if you've never played ED before, those same words might leave you with the impression of a wholly different game than the one we have.

I think the problem is that ED is, by its nature, almost impossible to describe without experiencing. And if you try to describe it you end up with a sort of descriptive paradox. If I try to put myself in the position of someone who's never played the game, reading that GQ article for the first time, I suspect my reactions would be something like this:

  • Read the article.
  • Conclude that ED sounds like the perfect game for me.
  • Buy the game and play it.
  • Get the feeling that it's a great game, but not really the game that the article described.
  • Re-read the article.
  • Realise that it's exactly the game that the article had described, just not necessarily the one I thought it had.
While this is probably true for a lot of other games, the sheer openness of ED just amplifies the tendency towards different interpretations. Something similar happened with the DDF/DDA; while many of those features clearly didn't make it into the game at all, other aspects that seem to be missing are in fact present albeit in a form different to how many people interpreted the intent.

I don't think anyone's being dishonest, it's just that enjoyment or otherwise of ED is so subjective and that subjectivity doesn't translate easily into the written or spoken word.

This is why I never recommend ED to friends, even if they ask. I describe it as best I can, explain which aspects I love and which I find annoying, emphasise that everything I've said is totally subjective, then advise them to do their own research before buying. I never want to be the guy who flat-out recommended "that awful game" to a friend.

when my friends ask me about Elite Dangerous I start my recommendation with: "It is not a game for the average gamer". Then I proceed to explain in detail its virtues and flaws.
 
when my friends ask me about Elite Dangerous I start my recommendation with: "It is not a game for the average gamer". Then I proceed to explain in detail its virtues and flaws.

Yeah that is pretty much how I go about it. I also give them a warning that the game isn't for dumb people as they come to the forums and complain about things that are their fault like shooting cops and having to deal with the results.
 

verminstar

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From Wikipedia
GQ (formerly Gentlemen's Quarterly) is an international monthly men's magazine based in New York City. The publication focuses on fashion, style, and culture for men, though articles on food, movies, fitness, sex, music, travel, sports, technology, and books are also featured.

So its an american mag...thats why Ive never heard of it and will almost certainly not put on my personal bucket list of things to do. If its like american tv, itll be one page of articles and two pages of advertising survival gear and infowars.com.

However, one is a huge fan normally of "gentlemens magazines"...although Im fairly sure the content wont look anything like this one. Im afraid that "gentlemens magazines" probably doesnt mean the same thing to many here as what it does to americans.

That being said, yeah cool story, always nice to see decent reviews even in publications that have a niche audience, and by that I mean that the mag in question is not one Ive ever seen on any shelf in the local easons...and if they dont have it then ye have to order it in directly which means that by the time ye see the articles, they about 2 weeks outta date ^
 
So its an american mag...thats why Ive never heard of it and will almost certainly not put on my personal bucket list of things to do. If its like american tv, itll be one page of articles and two pages of advertising survival gear and infowars.com.

However, one is a huge fan normally of "gentlemens magazines"...although Im fairly sure the content wont look anything like this one. Im afraid that "gentlemens magazines" probably doesnt mean the same thing to many here as what it does to americans.

That being said, yeah cool story, always nice to see decent reviews even in publications that have a niche audience, and by that I mean that the mag in question is not one Ive ever seen on any shelf in the local easons...and if they dont have it then ye have to order it in directly which means that by the time ye see the articles, they about 2 weeks outta date ^

Yeah in America gentleman means out of touch comically incorrect snobs. I think that personally it might suit you.
 

verminstar

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How gentlemanly of you!

I could have just lied and said I do actually care...can assure ye Im no gentleman in any language, but I wont lie to yer face either ^

Thats why my career in politics ended so abruptly...Im too honest ^
 
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I did it this very afternoon in Lave: selected the wrong fire group and accidentally "scanned" an aggressive ship with a thermal conduit beam laser instead of a KWS. It earned me a nine minute sojourn to Diso. Annoying, but entirely my fault.
 
Funny, that's pretty much the same with me. Though I sometimes wear an Elite t-shirt when going to parties, my hope is to find some people who *know* what it means but I shudder from the idea that people would probably ask about it. In which case I usually answer "these funny dots are 8-bit stars" with an emphasised sheepish countenance that usually ends the conversation.

At least we are reinsured to be some crazy geeks at most but not being converted into some religion-like zealots - yet. :D

Is it like while you may be happy with your wife or girlfriend would you recommend them to a friend?
 
Turn the PC off, wait till 10pm then go outside and look up, theres the REAL galaxy 100% complete and there for you to view.

Although that is true, you are seeing it from the warm embrace of mother Earth. Do you get the vastness, the majesty, the sense of humility? Yes. Do you get the desolation, the loneliness, the sense of utter farness? Not quite. Because although your mind may be wandering amongst the stars, your feet are firmly rooted in the warm earth.

When you look up, you see the galaxy from here. In Elite: Dangerous, you see the galaxy from out there.

It is not a replacement; it's a complementary perspective.
 
Although that is true, you are seeing it from the warm embrace of mother Earth. Do you get the vastness, the majesty, the sense of humility? Yes. Do you get the desolation, the loneliness, the sense of utter farness? Not quite. Because although your mind may be wandering amongst the stars, your feet are firmly rooted in the warm earth.

When you look up, you see the galaxy from here. In Elite: Dangerous, you see the galaxy from out there.

It is not a replacement; it's a complementary perspective.

Yeah, having a tough time myself recalling when I last went outside, went straight up out of the gravity well at hundreds of meters per second till I could bend the laws of physics to go to a bunch of the dots in the sky in a few minutes' time. If this is occurring and I am simply not remembering it I am going to be very angry. Until then, Elite.
 
So its an american mag...thats why Ive never heard of it and will almost certainly not put on my personal bucket list of things to do. If its like american tv, itll be one page of articles and two pages of advertising survival gear and infowars.com.

However, one is a huge fan normally of "gentlemens magazines"...although Im fairly sure the content wont look anything like this one. Im afraid that "gentlemens magazines" probably doesnt mean the same thing to many here as what it does to americans.

That being said, yeah cool story, always nice to see decent reviews even in publications that have a niche audience, and by that I mean that the mag in question is not one Ive ever seen on any shelf in the local easons...and if they dont have it then ye have to order it in directly which means that by the time ye see the articles, they about 2 weeks outta date ^

Firstly, GQ publishes editions in many countries, most definitely including the UK and Ireland and is available everywhere magazines are sold. It's not niche by any stretch of the imagination. Secondly, that's a weird characterisation of US television. HBO, which broadcasts many of the biggest shows such as Westworld and Game of Thrones, doesn't even have ad breaks. In any case, you wouldn't see American ads unless you were watching the shows in America. Infowars doesn't adverstise on TV either. I mean, what on earth are you on about?
 
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You know that someone doesn't ''get'' something when they have no idea what they are talking about. Sandbox? Not even close. MMO? Really? Where is also the endless grind mention?
 
Unfortunately the reality is for the majority of us even if it wasn't raining the light pollution makes most of the galaxy invisible, a great shame.

I dont live in a built up area, its pretty rural (Shropshire). Beautiful night skies here :) Very little light pollution
 
You know that someone doesn't ''get'' something when they have no idea what they are talking about. Sandbox? Not even close. MMO? Really? Where is also the endless grind mention?
It mentioned the grind in one sentence I think, pretty slim pickings since the grind represents a MAJOR part of ED's game structure :)
 
You know that someone doesn't ''get'' something when they have no idea what they are talking about. Sandbox? Not even close. MMO? Really? Where is also the endless grind mention?
Someone already tried to turn this thread into another definition war back in post #50 and nobody bit. Best of luck though.
 
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