Doing it atm, there is nooooo way this is getting done in 5-6hrs on a first attempt. Took us near 3hrs just to collect all the things and reach the first planet. Then we had to work out which things to look at and then figure out why the guide isn't 100% accurate on the location of each scan point.
Is the "Ancient Ruins" mission worth making a serous attempt at?
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Doing it atm, there is nooooo way this is getting done in 5-6hrs on a first attempt. Took us near 3hrs just to collect all the things and reach the first planet. Then we had to work out which things to look at and then figure out why the guide isn't 100% accurate on the location of each scan point.
Did you use the guide step by step?
Yeah, we are. Some of the scan points aren't the same as what is shown on the maps for some strange reason. But beyond that the biggest issue has been actually getting to where we want to be, while learning the layout of the ruins. It just takes time to process all of it and as such I thin 6hrs on the first trip is a pretty tall order.
If you have Netflix or other streaming entertainment the mission will fly by. Don't do it unprepared
How was it phrased? 12 slots of cargo space (exactly) needs two modules, while 16 needs one, so it could be talking in terms of that.
Interesting : don't remember TBH.
+rep for the attention to details
It is not. And (for the record) I regret it.
Meene to fist site : 15-20 mins(anyone can do this)
Collect 12 artifacts : 15 mins(maybe 30 mins if its your first time)
Hence I can start the first scan after less than 30 mins.
First 3 sites in 2 hours(43 scans) , for a first timer probably 3 hours
If it is not your first time then definitely less than 6 hours, otherwise it could take any time at all(I have read 7 hours, 10 hours, 15 hours and more)
Sorry, but can you point out which ones as I have done it many times and not had a single problem with the locations in the guide ?
(we talking my guide or another?)
What? 20MCr/h is not excellent payout? What is, and how do i get it?
Might come as news to you, but many don't want to use that exploit...
Might come as news to you, but I never said anyone should.
Hence your reply to Knightshark is moot
So to still answer Knightshark, how else can you make 20M Cr/hour ?
I started to do this last week. I was actually very skeptical as it seemed to be (and is) quiet a grind.
I prepared myself for the trip with the information form the appropriate forum threads and used the route finder to prep a route.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...0-The-Canonn?p=5575916&viewfull=1#post5575916
http://edshipyard.com/gsopt.html
And I have to say, even thought the work is repetitive and cumbersome, I actually really like it.
The atmosphere and sounds on these ruin sites is captivating.
One of the better times I had in ED up to now.
Edit: The only thing I would change if I started over again is I would take my AspX instead of the Conda, because it's easier to find a close landing spot with a smaller ship.
I prepared myself for the trip with the information form the appropriate forum threads and used the route finder to prep a route.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...0-The-Canonn?p=5575916&viewfull=1#post5575916
http://edshipyard.com/gsopt.html
And I have to say, even thought the work is repetitive and cumbersome, I actually really like it.
The atmosphere and sounds on these ruin sites is captivating.
One of the better times I had in ED up to now.
Edit: The only thing I would change if I started over again is I would take my AspX instead of the Conda, because it's easier to find a close landing spot with a smaller ship.
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Hence your reply to Knightshark is moot
So to still answer Knightshark, how else can you make 20M Cr/hour ?
Thanks. Yes, i was talking about legitimate ways to make money, i.e. by gameplay as intended. And in that regard i find Ancient Ruins to be perfect: fun, interesting, rewarding, and great atmosphere.
I have just (sort of just) started this, I can't find any bleedin' 'Ancient Orbs'! .. I got everything else (2 of)
Urgh. Game design fail on FDev's part, if the only way for (most) people to enjoy it is to use cheatsheets someone else spent ages creating. (P.S. I refuse to use such cheatsheets, as I would get NO satisfaction from Simon Says.)
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Well, I'm usually the first to complain about missing in game info. In this instance i think it's a dilemma. The ancient ruins seem to be designed as puzzle for a large group of players to be solved cooperatively. Solo players just have the option to go through the solution again. I would highly appreciate if FD would make missions with the ruins where a single player is asked to get some specific set of data and is given a target system where this data can be found. It wouldn't be so much work, but who knows what FDs plans for the ruins are, i hope they have some plans!
It's rubbish, I'd stay clear if I were you* Maybe grind some imperial rank - now that is gameplay
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I feel for you, but the mission design was for multiple Cmdr participation to find the sites,let alone each combo for each Obelisk. It was meant to be done by many.
There are over 100 planets with sites, most planets have multiple Ruins(over 150 ruins total I think,if not much more)
Each Ruin has many Obelisks,and each Obelisk has a combo of artifact requirement before it can be scanned.
1. Find Ruins(Mostly by Canonn Research)
2. Find Obelisk scan combo(Mostly by Canonn Research)
3. Write Guide(Me)
If you were to try do this mission from scratch,you might never ever do it. There is no cheat sheet, this is the ONLY way to do it.
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Well, I finished one of the systems and I'm enjoying myself so far.
It's interesting enough and it's not really a grind.
I've spent longer periods driving my SRV around canyons just for the yucks.
I'm following the guide I found here: https://www.tldrgames.com/guide/elite-dangerous/elite-dangerous-complete-decoding-ancient-ruins/
Augmented by Dognosh's maps.
I gotta say, I am completely over-awed at the amount of effort it must have taken to actually figure this all out for the first time.
Most locations seem to have "extra" monoliths which don't get used so finding which ones add to the mission, and what combination of artifacts are required to activate them, must have been a helluva task.
On that note, if there's anything "missing" from the guides I've seen it's that I'd like to see more of an explanation for why you're doing what you're doing and how it was all figured out.
At least, that way, if you find you've screwed something up, you might be in a better position to fix the problem whereas we're currently in a position where we're just "following a trail of breadcrumbs" and if something goes wrong then nobody will have any idea what to do next.
On that note, am I to assume that the "extra" active monoliths might be "repeats" to create a bit of redundancy in case a player misses one somewhere?
So far I've completed Synuefe TP-F B44-0 (and got all 44 scans) and I'm pretty sure there were a few active monoliths that I didn't use.
Other observations so far:-
- I am using my AspX. Probably should have used a DBX instead. It would be easier to land in small/uneven areas.
- The monoliths have a habit of "powering down" so active ones cannot be found. Quit to main menu and then log back in to fix.
- The guides say "consider taking sulphur/phosphorous to refuel your SUV". Don't consider it. Do it. Expect to refuel at every site.
- Don't be shy about jumping back into your ship and moving around to land close to a monolith you're looking for. It's much easier to navigate from the air.
- Fit a surface scanner to your ship in order to earn extra credits and make it easier to find sulphur and phosphorous.
Dognosh's maps are a great help (currently got them pinned to my wall) and I'd rep him except that I already did recently.
It's interesting enough and it's not really a grind.
I've spent longer periods driving my SRV around canyons just for the yucks.
I'm following the guide I found here: https://www.tldrgames.com/guide/elite-dangerous/elite-dangerous-complete-decoding-ancient-ruins/
Augmented by Dognosh's maps.
I gotta say, I am completely over-awed at the amount of effort it must have taken to actually figure this all out for the first time.
Most locations seem to have "extra" monoliths which don't get used so finding which ones add to the mission, and what combination of artifacts are required to activate them, must have been a helluva task.
On that note, if there's anything "missing" from the guides I've seen it's that I'd like to see more of an explanation for why you're doing what you're doing and how it was all figured out.
At least, that way, if you find you've screwed something up, you might be in a better position to fix the problem whereas we're currently in a position where we're just "following a trail of breadcrumbs" and if something goes wrong then nobody will have any idea what to do next.
On that note, am I to assume that the "extra" active monoliths might be "repeats" to create a bit of redundancy in case a player misses one somewhere?
So far I've completed Synuefe TP-F B44-0 (and got all 44 scans) and I'm pretty sure there were a few active monoliths that I didn't use.
Other observations so far:-
- I am using my AspX. Probably should have used a DBX instead. It would be easier to land in small/uneven areas.
- The monoliths have a habit of "powering down" so active ones cannot be found. Quit to main menu and then log back in to fix.
- The guides say "consider taking sulphur/phosphorous to refuel your SUV". Don't consider it. Do it. Expect to refuel at every site.
- Don't be shy about jumping back into your ship and moving around to land close to a monolith you're looking for. It's much easier to navigate from the air.
- Fit a surface scanner to your ship in order to earn extra credits and make it easier to find sulphur and phosphorous.
Dognosh's maps are a great help (currently got them pinned to my wall) and I'd rep him except that I already did recently.
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Is 201 Million Credits worth it?
This isn't your average Elite: Mission. This one takes a good bit of time and effort, and many stops at many locations to complete.
I personally find it a good deal of fun, as it's a change of pace from the regular routine - whatever your regular routine might be.