I won't do slave trade, smuggling, mining (boring), or CZs. Pretty much kills my unlocking any more than I have now.
I wasn't interested in the black market requirements either, but when we had that mission bug that was killing missions and leaving me with illegal cargo in my hold I just sold it at the local black market rather than dump it. It was a moment of weakness...
It's nice to meet someone else who keeps to their roleplay even when it hinders their game. For most, RP is an excuse to grief.
Nice find! I get 30, though. FWIW, the new ones would be...[SPOILER!]
Captain Banner (Independent)
Dorn Etienne (Empire)
Elui Shera (Independent)
Kit Lange (Independent)
Lex Avermann (Independent)
Marshall (Independent)
Matt 'The Gunner' Sorbis (Independent)
Mel Brandon (Alliance)
Plasma Piotr (Federation)
Trin Falcour (Independent)
Dorn Etienne (Empire)
Elui Shera (Independent)
Kit Lange (Independent)
Lex Avermann (Independent)
Marshall (Independent)
Matt 'The Gunner' Sorbis (Independent)
Mel Brandon (Alliance)
Plasma Piotr (Federation)
Trin Falcour (Independent)
And we even know where they're all located. What tricks they might do or what their prereqs are is still to be determined, though. And they still will have to send you an invitation first, ofc.
O7,
[noob]
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I have unlocked all but three:
The ones I have unlocked are generally at level 5, except the weapons guys, which are usually left behind at level 3 due to "favors".
- Nemo - unimportant to my playstyle
- Tarquin - still to do (I hate hauling tea 5 or 10 tonnes at a time)
- Dekker - well, let her sink into the abyss - nothing there of interest to me and ridiculous unlock requirement
The ones I have unlocked are generally at level 5, except the weapons guys, which are usually left behind at level 3 due to "favors".
nah, compared to all other engineers, "grinding" for 1M worth of combat bonds seems an easy task
I got luck with Tarquin a couple weeks ago. The system was in an expansion (or something, can't remember exactly) and it let me buy 15 tea at a time so it went pretty quick.
That must have been "BOOM" state. But a good idea, check state once a week and do the "Rares Engineers" when the respectice supply systems hit a boom.
Have had access to all engineers at the max level for months now
regarding palin -
i think i will try to maximise the jumprange on my Asp now to make those 5k LY not as boring as it is now
i think i will try to maximise the jumprange on my Asp now to make those 5k LY not as boring as it is now
LoL, if you have a ship with a decent jump range you can run out 5k and self destruct. The DBX can easily do 50+ly (mine does) even with a crappy FSD roll! It's rebuy is only 600k so peanuts. It's a nice shuttle craft as shipping the big three around is prohibitively expensive, where as the DBX is nice and cheap! So I can do secondary objectives while leaving my main ships in situ.
Skip this bit if you like... [Last night for example I left the Vette at the CG as I'll want to do more combat there yet, flew to Shinrarta in the DBX, collected the JumpaConda, flew to Merope (nearest shipyard to Maia) shipped to DBX over, flew to Obsidian Orbital while that was being shipped, collected the Palin mission, flew back to Merope, flew to Palin in the DBX, got a 133% G5 dirty drives roll on the DBX, which is too good to waste on the DBX so I'll switch it for the Asp thrusters, flew back to Merope for the JumpaConda. Today I'll do the Palin mission for 1x Resin, fly back to Shinrarta, transfer the DBX back to Shinrarta, fly to the CG in the DBX and do some more pew pew in the Vette again... Sounds complicated doesn't it. Thank fdev for the ridiculously high big ship transfer costs for that...]
The point though, for about an hour and a half of play time you can get the 5k distance done easily so that you can access Palin. Needed for the Thargoid tech? Very likely!
TL, DR
Buy a DBX, fit a half decent FSD, do the 5kly, self destruct (600k rebuy), go see Palin and pull pained expressions for him.
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It was 1mil combat bonds for me to (both engineers that ask for combat bonds). Both were in Boom and this may make a difference as to the level of bonds asked for... Purely speculation.
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TBH, I'm surprised that fdev included this element in the engineers. Forcing you to smuggle illegal goods and use black markets. If you wish to try and play strictly within the law, then that locks you out of that part of the engineers tree. I can get the point of fdev trying to broaden people's game play, but like you I think it is going too far to force you to include illegal game play mechanics. It's a game, so I'm not beating myself up about it but I do understand where you are coming from on this one.
Agreed, much like playing iron man rules when you die... You wipe your game. Personally, I'm too morally 'weak' to trash months of play like that
Yeah did exactly this myself yesterday. Shinrarta is my base and I've got the Vette and Conda at the CG. Needed to go see Bill for a large focused G5 TLB plassie for the Vette so built a quickie DBX at Jameson's (DBX has a large hardpoint or I would have used my trusty Asp).
A few people have been saying they haven't bothered with Col Dekker. I should point out that the description for him mentions that he will introduce you other engineer, as do Didi Vatermann and Broo Tarquin. Getting Col Dekker now might save some time later when you really want to access one of the new engineers...
Also, the recommendation to unlock Palin by flying out 5000Ly then suiciding is throwing away a lot of exploration data that can be used to get very quickly allied with permit-giving factions (Alioth Independents and Sirius Corp come to mind). There are several other permit locked systems that exploration data would be good for too, not to mention you can sell the exploration data at several engineers to quickly upgrade access.
Also, the recommendation to unlock Palin by flying out 5000Ly then suiciding is throwing away a lot of exploration data that can be used to get very quickly allied with permit-giving factions (Alioth Independents and Sirius Corp come to mind). There are several other permit locked systems that exploration data would be good for too, not to mention you can sell the exploration data at several engineers to quickly upgrade access.
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