THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

Apologies if this has already been pointed out, but maybe we're just looking in the wrong place?

In the Prologue to Premonition, the science officer reports:

‘We have an M2V class red dwarf, sir,’ she said. ‘Seventeen planets. Planettwo is confirmed as … an Earth-like world.’

The Zurara is not found in such a system. Obviously, it could simply be a discrepancy between the book and the game. But maybe not. Anyone know of a way to query either the ingame star chart or a 3rd party resource to isolate M2 V stars in the Syreadiae sector?

It's a good idea. I've had a look at the EDDiscovery database but it doesn't have star type, so it's a no from me. Anyone else?
 
Apologies if this has already been pointed out, but maybe we're just looking in the wrong place?

In the Prologue to Premonition, the science officer reports:

‘We have an M2V class red dwarf, sir,’ she said. ‘Seventeen planets. Planettwo is confirmed as … an Earth-like world.’

The Zurara is not found in such a system. Obviously, it could simply be a discrepancy between the book and the game. But maybe not. Anyone know of a way to query either the ingame star chart or a 3rd party resource to isolate M2 V stars in the Syreadiae sector?

You are correct - in the book its an M2V star but at 5511k Syreadiae JX-F C0 is a G type, and the book has an ELW for the second planet but in game ithe first planet is terraformable while the second is neither an ELW nor terraformable. But if you assume it's not a discrepancy then how did the Zurara get to its eventual resting place with the power gone and the crew dead....so applying occam's razor I think it's far more likely to be a discrepancy.
 
You are correct - in the book its an M2V star but at 5511k Syreadiae JX-F C0 is a G type, and the book has an ELW for the second planet but in game ithe first planet is terraformable while the second is neither an ELW nor terraformable. But if you assume it's not a discrepancy then how did the Zurara get to its eventual resting place with the power gone and the crew dead....so applying occam's razor I think it's far more likely to be a discrepancy.

33 years is an awfully long time to float out there.

Hopefully, certain persons with authoritative knowledge might appear in the thread to confirm or deny the existence of a discrepancy. (Are you out there, Mr. Wagar?)
 
The closest known system that has an ELW as the second planet is Hypo Aeb AQ-G d10-7. No star type recorded though... Finding M2s manually in the GalMap should be fun.

What I fear is that the beacons marking target planets for terraforming might only pop up if you come close to them and do not show from the entry point. That would make finding them without precise hints very, very unlikely...
 
You are correct - in the book its an M2V star but at 5511k Syreadiae JX-F C0 is a G type, and the book has an ELW for the second planet but in game ithe first planet is terraformable while the second is neither an ELW nor terraformable. But if you assume it's not a discrepancy then how did the Zurara get to its eventual resting place with the power gone and the crew dead....so applying occam's razor I think it's far more likely to be a discrepancy.
Hmm... there is of course also the matter of the distance home... 9,823ly stated by the Zurara crew vs the Zurara's current location being 12,083 ly from Sol.

Could be that home was 2,000 ly outside of the bubble, or the distance disrapancy combined with the system description could mean something else is going on.
 
Apologies if this has already been pointed out, but maybe we're just looking in the wrong place?

In the Prologue to Premonition, the science officer reports:

‘We have an M2V class red dwarf, sir,’ she said. ‘Seventeen planets. Planettwo is confirmed as … an Earth-like world.’

The Zurara is not found in such a system. Obviously, it could simply be a discrepancy between the book and the game. But maybe not. Anyone know of a way to query either the ingame star chart or a 3rd party resource to isolate M2 V stars in the Syreadiae sector?

Right, and since the Zurara was found before Drew finished the book he had enough time to change something like this in case FD placed her in the wrong system. So why didn't he? Drew?
 
The closest known system that has an ELW as the second planet is Hypo Aeb AQ-G d10-7. No star type recorded though... Finding M2s manually in the GalMap should be fun.

What I fear is that the beacons marking target planets for terraforming might only pop up if you come close to them and do not show from the entry point. That would make finding them without precise hints very, very unlikely...

So how far is Hypo Aeb AQ-G d10-7 from Sol/Reorte?

Hmm... there is of course also the matter of the distance home... 9,823ly stated by the Zurara crew vs the Zurara's current location being 12,083 ly from Sol.

Could be that home was 2,000 ly outside of the bubble, or the distance disrapancy combined with the system description could mean something else is going on.

What systems are within say 20ly radius from a point along the RR line 9823ly from Zurara?
edit: and what systems are within that distance 9823ly from Reorte along the line? Though due to her size and since Zurara was not known to the other parts of the expeditions or the Reorte population then it seems more likely she had her own secret start point outside the bubble.
 
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The closest known system that has an ELW as the second planet is Hypo Aeb AQ-G d10-7. No star type recorded though... Finding M2s manually in the GalMap should be fun.

What I fear is that the beacons marking target planets for terraforming might only pop up if you come close to them and do not show from the entry point. That would make finding them without precise hints very, very unlikely...

No, the Anaconda expeditions and Zurara were dropping terraforming kit to start the process then marking them, or any ELW they found, with the beacons. So the beacons are either for the eventual Exodus ships to home onto from long range, or they are technology to hide these habitable planets from any Thargoids exploring/pursuing the Exodus ships (but how would the Exodus ships then find these planets?).
 
(but how would the Exodus ships then find these planets?).

Send them to a fixed location, then let them sent a signal to nearby systems in a xx ly radius. Beacons around the prepared planets receive it and activate.

Would be nice to know for how long they planned with the wake-masking turner develops, since that should make hiding the exodus ships much much easier.
 
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Send them to a fixed location, then let them sent a signal to nearby systems in a xx ly radius. Beacons around the prepared planets receive it and activate.

Would be nice to know for how long they planned with the wake-masking turner develops, since that should make hiding the exodus ships much much easier.

Good thought. "Exodus" was coded into the BIOS of the beacons if I remember the expedition logs correctly, so perhaps any explorers out there should start sending "EXODUS" locally on entry to a system?

edit: and definitely try it in Zurara system!
 
So how far is Hypo Aeb AQ-G d10-7 from Sol/Reorte?



What systems are within say 20ly radius from a point along the RR line 9823ly from Zurara?
edit: and what systems are within that distance 9823ly from Reorte along the line? Though due to her size and since Zurara was not known to the other parts of the expeditions or the Reorte population then it seems more likely she had her own secret start point outside the bubble.


This was what I was thinking a while ago when I first stated on Premonition and seen the very specific 9,823ly distance mentioned in the book. Knowing it was further than that from the bubble to Zurara's location in game made me think that it was significant enough to post it to this thread. I'd still like to see what anyone could find by looking towards the bubble from the zurara for a system 9,823ly away. However as mentioned elsewhere the lack of earthlikes in the zurara's current resting place is odd, and might even make it a fruitless search if it is indeed in the wrong system.
 
Hmm... there is of course also the matter of the distance home... 9,823ly stated by the Zurara crew vs the Zurara's current location being 12,083 ly from Sol.

Could be that home was 2,000 ly outside of the bubble, or the distance disrapancy combined with the system description could mean something else is going on.

NGC 7822 is 2,900 LY out from Sol and there's an asteroid base there, I believe.
 
This was what I was thinking a while ago when I first stated on Premonition and seen the very specific 9,823ly distance mentioned in the book. Knowing it was further than that from the bubble to Zurara's location in game made me think that it was significant enough to post it to this thread. I'd still like to see what anyone could find by looking towards the bubble from the zurara for a system 9,823ly away. However as mentioned elsewhere the lack of earthlikes in the zurara's current resting place is odd, and might even make it a fruitless search if it is indeed in the wrong system.

The Zurara captain wasn't aware of her existence when the Club approached him, and I'm sure ships of that size would have been of interest to Galnet/local population then, as they are now, so I can definitely see justification for her setting off from a hidden construction base (Wreaken?) outside the bubble. Actually, assuming it's the same base as is being used to construct the battlecruisers then can we use that to establish it's location? We know it's in Col70...with a 9823ly radius from Zurara...

I can't see her being in the wrong system, even though the book's description disagrees on every aspect against the in-game system (star class, #planets,#2 planet type); there was nobody left alive on board, & no power available, & no reason to move her. If the Club/minions had subsequently gone out to her they'd have destroyed her (e.g. set her to fly into the star), not moved her to another system. Unless anyone can come up with a sensible solution then I'm sticking with poor copy proofing, or FD programming unintentionally moving her but that seems unlikely since she was only replacing the original Anaconda (which I assume was in the correct position-Drew? FD?; Who's MB's replacement? We need an inside man with a sympathetic ear!)
 
NGC 7822 is 2,900 LY out from Sol and there's an asteroid base there, I believe.

If so it's very new; wasn't one there when I visited a month or so ago. Edit: beg your pardon-"NGC 7822 Sector BQ-Y d12, Gorgon Research Facility. No shipyard or outfitting'"


Besides Zurara is as big as an Interdictor, too big for an asteroid base. She must have been built in Wreaken's secret construction base.
 
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If so it's very new; wasn't one there when I visited a month or so ago. Besides Zurara is as big as an Interdictor, too big for an asteroid base. She must have been built in Wreaken's secret construction base.

https://eddb.io/station/66352

Zurara could have been built at the Wreaken site then flown to NGC 7822 and handed over to the expendable crew there.

Also, it's the Gorgon Research Facility - so there's a nice Greek mythology link too.
 
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… Besides Zurara is as big as an Interdictor, too big for an asteroid base. She must have been built in Wreaken's secret construction base.

Or maybe just somewhere where all those mega-ships are build. Best way to keep things secret is to buy standard equipment that is "mass produced".
If you assume that every mega-ship is build at a secret Wreaken construction base, you might want to start questioning that group of CMDRs who has access to a mega-ship.

;)
 
Unless anyone can come up with a sensible solution then I'm sticking with poor copy proofing, or FD programming unintentionally moving her but that seems unlikely since she was only replacing the original Anaconda (which I assume was in the correct position-Drew? FD?; Who's MB's replacement? We need an inside man with a sympathetic ear!)

Like I said, since the Zurara was found before the book was released, Drew had all the time to change such a minor thing as the description of the system in the prolog in order to match the in game system. I cannot see why he would not do this unless its intentional.
 
Or maybe just somewhere where all those mega-ships are build. Best way to keep things secret is to buy standard equipment that is "mass produced".
If you assume that every mega-ship is build at a secret Wreaken construction base, you might want to start questioning that group of CMDRs who has access to a mega-ship.

;)

secret Wreaken construction base, you mean COL 70? Which is permit locked by the pilots federation? On FSD's built by Sirius?

We just made it to Premonition chapter 1! so far all we know is
Rebecca met a member of the club, a male. Also the person who killed everyone on the Zurara, the passenger, is still there! Sealed within one of the cargo bays. If only we could board the ship, we could find the doors welded shut, cut them open, and find this monster!
 
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