Jorki, I found some of your name tags on my way back across the Rift 
I have a screenshot of the system map on my PS4.
I have a screenshot of the system map on my PS4.
THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)
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Jorki, I found some of your name tags on my way back across the Rift
Nice to be remembered! I found a few first discoveries, but the best one was on my final trip to get elite explorer-out towards Col70 then California neb then a couple of BH. One system had the star discovered, but not the five terraformables!
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This is incredibly common. Even ELW's.
Having said that, there's a couple of systems out there where I've scanned *everything* except the ELW. Just to mess with someone's head...
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I cut a 1000ly corner off my route back from the Zurara by taking a more direct route and heading straight for the middle of the Heisenberg Bridge. It seems I'm not the first. There were a few new discoveries on that stretch including a WW and an AW but there were definitely plenty of footprints around too.
I tried it fairly recently as part of my efforts to find a way into Col 70 systems.
You can download a csv file with all the systems from eddb.io and I used a small python script to do the math. Also in german the B is called H.
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If we knew about all the permit locked shipyards they wouldn't be very secret would they!
And on the needing to be built in secret front, I'm not convinced either. It's actual intended use is secret, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be built at a normal shipyard. Even if a reason had to be given for the ship to be built they could have just given a fake answer. Given how many Megaships appear to have gone missing over the years I don't think it would particularly stand out if another one goes missing.
I'm not saying you're definitely wrong by the way, but I think there's enough alternatives to mean we can't definitely say that it must have been built outside the bubble.
Edit - personally if it was me doing it I wouldn't build it outside the bubble when I could achieve the same result with much less effort and expense within the bubble.
My point about Col 70 is about the Sector as a whole. Yeah, they found a Thargoid fleet (apparently just hanging round, doing nothing), but given the nature of Col 70 (huge permit locked sphere with masses of smaller non-permit locked spheres inside) I don't think it can be considered Thargoid territory as a whole. Sure, some bits of it may be, but the whole thing just doesn't make sense. Why would they restrict themselves to such a particular set of systems all around a region of space but never stray into what would actually be the middle of their territory?
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Agreed, good shout.
I've done it a few times, not to mention a fair bit of general flying about when I was looking for said mystery... (CMDR Barefoot Bandit, not Zeeman)
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If we knew about all the permit locked shipyards they wouldn't be very secret would they!
And on the needing to be built in secret front, I'm not convinced either. It's actual intended use is secret, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be built at a normal shipyard. Even if a reason had to be given for the ship to be built they could have just given a fake answer. Given how many Megaships appear to have gone missing over the years I don't think it would particularly stand out if another one goes missing.
I'm not saying you're definitely wrong by the way, but I think there's enough alternatives to mean we can't definitely say that it must have been built outside the bubble.
Edit - personally if it was me doing it I wouldn't build it outside the bubble when I could achieve the same result with much less effort and expense within the bubble.
My point about Col 70 is about the Sector as a whole. Yeah, they found a Thargoid fleet (apparently just hanging round, doing nothing), but given the nature of Col 70 (huge permit locked sphere with masses of smaller non-permit locked spheres inside) I don't think it can be considered Thargoid territory as a whole. Sure, some bits of it may be, but the whole thing just doesn't make sense. Why would they restrict themselves to such a particular set of systems all around a region of space but never stray into what would actually be the middle of their territory?
We think COL 70 is more "Club" Related than Thargoid related. There is a shipyard on the edge of the sector building both imperial and federation ships. They may not be connected to the powers though, they may be connected to the club and their activities. Which means - Wreaken, Sirius, Gutamatya, Core Dynamics...All involved! I'll take some of that tinfoil if you please.
I think that Premonition Chapter 30 pretty much confirms a Thargoid armada holed-up in Col 70.
Yes, this is what made me think Col70 was all Goid territory, but perhaps Thatchinho and Unbreakable are correct and it is just coincidence that Wreaken's construction yard is on the edge of that sector. Could be that the goids are from further out, and I think probably what pushed the Guardians out of their home system.
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If you apes could just Ally yourself with Us Oresrians we could fight those Klaxos together and push them back! But you are too busy being manipulated by The Club. It's ok, we can wait and use you as a meat shield.
If we knew about all the permit locked shipyards they wouldn't be very secret would they!
And on the needing to be built in secret front, I'm not convinced either. It's actual intended use is secret, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be built at a normal shipyard. Even if a reason had to be given for the ship to be built they could have just given a fake answer. Given how many Megaships appear to have gone missing over the years I don't think it would particularly stand out if another one goes missing.
I'm not saying you're definitely wrong by the way, but I think there's enough alternatives to mean we can't definitely say that it must have been built outside the bubble.
Edit - personally if it was me doing it I wouldn't build it outside the bubble when I could achieve the same result with much less effort and expense within the bubble.
My point about Col 70 is about the Sector as a whole. Yeah, they found a Thargoid fleet (apparently just hanging round, doing nothing), but given the nature of Col 70 (huge permit locked sphere with masses of smaller non-permit locked spheres inside) I don't think it can be considered Thargoid territory as a whole. Sure, some bits of it may be, but the whole thing just doesn't make sense. Why would they restrict themselves to such a particular set of systems all around a region of space but never stray into what would actually be the middle of their territory?
But isn't 9823ly from Zurara outside the bubble?
I think that an alliance with the Oresrians would be a great idea. It would open up the game with all sort of trade and technology engineering upgrade possibilities. Hope you can speak English though, I'm useless at languages!
Right, so I calculated a point in space, interpolating between Riedquat and the Zurara, 9823 ly back from its current resting place and used that to centre and narrow the search:-
Outorst CQ-G d10-8
Outorst GR-L c21-0
Outorst GW-E d11-6
Column 2 is distance from the Zurara, column 3 is the distance from the R-R line, or at least my imaginary point on it.
9832.896984 from Zurara
18.1880599 from R-R
18.1880599 from R-R
Outorst GR-L c21-0
9820.332971 from Zurara
7.629571175 from R-R
7.629571175 from R-R
Outorst GW-E d11-6
9855.0705 from Zurara
32.18972183 from R-R
32.18972183 from R-R
Column 2 is distance from the Zurara, column 3 is the distance from the R-R line, or at least my imaginary point on it.