DB Tweets 2.75M ED Units....

I doubt it's that. More likely the game just wasn't for them, which is fine. Not every game is for everyone.

sure

the thing is almost all of us were big fans of the franchise since its early days and most of us have been waiting for Elite 4 since the infamous Davids interview in 2004

I think we all knew what Elite is (unprecedented Freedom, state of the art PG, no loading screens/pauses apart from the initial one + seamlessness and immediacy, nods to science, dystopian universe) and what to expect. The problem is the lacklustre execution of many of those pillars and the dissonance between Early promises (first 30 newsletters + dev/art diaries) and the release. The dodgy business model adopted by frontier didn`t help either and is one of the reasons most of the others went back to FE2 for good (Me and my Brother are the only ones from our bunch that still somewhat care for ED). We even knew that the game will be buggy at release, because all elites were, what we didn`t know is that it would get worse with time

I blame Multi-player. Current networking is just not ready for a game like this and it seems to hinder development in almost every department

anyway I`m waaaay off-topic so to add at least something to the discussion i`ll say that for me its irrelevant how many people play concurrently, or at all. All I care about is IF FD still intend to deliver on the things from the early newsletters and DDF and if they have funds for it. 2.75M is pretty healthy and PlanetCoaster is pretty strong too so the latter seems a given at this point, that`s good. David is a good businessman these days, no doubt, the thing is he is no longer a developer nor is he a programmer and I`m worried about the former

The game we have today is very different to the one described in the early days, and its quality leaves a lot to be desired. So I`m on the "whiny" side of things nowadays, and I fully understand why others stopped playing , but there are no alternatives because the genre was dead and even in its genre Elite was always unique, so it`s not like i can just jump to some other game and get my fix, so I`m here, waiting for the things that will probably never come

But there might be some truth to what you wrote if you look at it from a different angle, meaning that we were all FE2 fans mostly, and from what I have gathered here on the forums, it seems that people who think FE2>Elite tend to be very negative towards ED which is far more like Elite 84 than FE2/FFE. I think that might be a big factor but again, I knew we won`t get Newtonian flight and despite my personal preference I still very much enjoy flying in ED, my gripes are of a different nature (the biggest one being that FE2 was a much more complete and developed game than E:D is 3 years after release and at the dawn of its second expansion).
 
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I got this information directly from Frontier. Like many others here I wanted clarification, so asked for confirmation on this. The sales do not include paintjobs or any of the other extras, the 2.75m copies sold is purely Elite Dangerous and Horizons units. :)

That is even more impressive, as I assume the store actually generate a not unimportant amount of cash to FD
 
But it is dying.

Everything that exists is traveling along a timeline that leads to it's eventual demise.

It's called being alive....

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So the new FD building is paid off? Or did that happen after Braben sold off his majority 51% to the soul devouring Chinese mobile TenCent?

You do know that DB still is the majority shareholder and this has been confirmed by FD, or maybe comprehension isn`t a strong point for you. Unless of course you can post some evidence otherwise.
 
Meh, I leave it up to interpretation. White knights will predictably take the statement seriously and charge in shields and spears in hand. Some will maybe laugh at the concept of a cheap Chinese knock off of ED or the Chinese Government sifting through your data. Others will shake their head at FD cracking the door open to the Devil.
 

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Well it doesn't really make any difference "who in Frontier", as the answer would have been the same from anyone there in the know. :) But in this case it was Zac.

This is HUGE news, meaning sales of the ED game itself were up to a million+ more than the official announcements indicated in the last 2 years. That's at least three times the rate of sales.

Did you wonder why Frontier have kept this secret until now. And why they put the news out to you Obsidian Ant and not told the press, players and stockholders?

I'm wondering why those extra sales don't show in industry sales reports such as Steam Spy. Did they all get sold through some previously unknown channel?

Also why that extra twenty million pounds or so doesn't show in the company financials. Such a huge mountain of cash would definitely have eliminated Frontier's need to raise money through that recent sale of shares to a Chinese outfit.

Anyway, not doubting your report Obsidian Ant. Thanks for the news. This is awesome.
 
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This is HUGE news, meaning sales of the ED game itself were up to a million+ more than the official announcements indicated in the last 2 years. That's at least three times the rate of sales.
Wrong, IIRC the last official number was 2.1 million.

Did you wonder why Frontier have kept this secret until now. And why they put the news out to you Obsidian Ant and not told the press, players and stockholders?

Wrong again, it wasn't Obsidian Ant but David Braben himself who made it public on his twitter account. Obsidian Ant just asked Zac for clarification if "units" really means "units" or if it means "paintjobs". Strangely it does mean "units".

I'm wondering why those extra sales don't show in industry sales reports such as Steam Spy. Did they all get sold through some previously unknown channel?
Steam spy is not an industry sales report. You are wrong again. Anyway, the channels they got sold thorugh aren't unkown to anyone but you. You could learn about them by reading this thread:

Frontier Store
Xbox
PS4

Also why that extra twenty million pounds or so doesn't show in the company financials. Such a huge mountain of cash would definitely have eliminated Frontier's need to raise money through that recent sale of shares to a Chinese outfit.
Maybe you aren't looking hard enough? And why do you think they needed that money? It sounds more like a strategic move to me.

Anyway, not doubting your report Obsidian Ant. Thanks for the news. This is awesome.
There isn't any news in Obisdian Ant's post. It's just a clarification for something we already knew because David Braben told us.

Since you are so utterly bad informed you shouldn't make your post sound like you had any idea what you are talking about. There is nothing wrong with asking questions rather than posting nonsense.
 
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This is HUGE news, meaning sales of ED and EDH were up to a million+ more than the official announcements indicated in the last 2 years. That's at least three times the rate of sales.

Did you wonder why Frontier have kept this secret until now. And why they put the news out to you Obsidian Ant and not told the press, players and stockholders?

I'm wondering why those extra sales don't show in industry sales reports such as Steam Spy. Did they all get sold through some previously unknown channel?

Also why that extra twenty million pounds or so doesn't show in the company financials. Such a huge mountain of cash would definitely have eliminated Frontier's need to raise money through that recent sale of shares to a Chinese outfit.

Anyway, not doubting your report Obsidian Ant. Thanks for the news. This is awesome.

I can tell you that it is hard to do sarcasm on misinformed basis.

FD sells game itself. Steam is just one of ways it does so. Counting those are game units, I will guess ED have about 2M players together on all platforms.

I would suggest to pay closer look to FD financial report of 2017, and then go on how they don't report to shareholders.

Third and not last, FD works on their third franchise and future expansion material and need for investment is understandable, considering they aren't gonna do seasons anymore.

For 2017 btw those numbers are very good. Expecting it to drop sometime August.
 
I got this information directly from Frontier. Like many others here I wanted clarification, so asked for confirmation on this. The sales do not include paintjobs or any of the other extras, the 2.75m copies sold is purely Elite Dangerous and Horizons units. :)

Given many players have multiple paint jobs, and given many players have seemingly jumped on board with even paying for #FF0000 & #00FF00 lasers and thrusters, and given there's been enough sales FD are now moving into the realms of a Spec Savers in their shop, you can only image these micro transactions are adding up to a reasonable additional revenue stream...

Would be interesting to know how much they're earning from these micro transactions...
 
Maybe you aren't looking hard enough? And why do you think they needed that money? It sounds more like a strategic move to me.

They need that money. While incoming sales keep company afloat, to develop Next Big ED Expansion [tm] and movie franchise game franchise first game, they will need lots of extra cash.
 
They need that money. While incoming sales keep company afloat, to develop Next Big ED Expansion [tm] and movie franchise game franchise first game, they will need lots of extra cash.

Sure, but I believe there are other ways to get money than selling shares to a chinese company. Stachel made it sound like they are standing with their backs to the wall.
 
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