Nice vid! I'm out searching Skaudai for new ruins - I have searched a couple of the ruin planets but no joy - both obviously landable and I was looking on volcanics. Never seen a POI like that though
There is always a shrinking POI like that in splash craters - 100%. This is normally a mineable rock (example http://i.imgur.com/DG230nJ.jpg ).
Usually there are between 1-5 splash craters, you can check on the system map after scanning the body (one note, if you do not see one on the map, have a quick look anyway, sometimes they are so small it is hard to spot the splash. Also on ice bodies splash is almost not visible.)
Example of two fairly big splash craters (by splash I mean the lines going from center to outside)
Skaudai AM-B d14-138 AB 7 A would be a great candidate, but I do not see any splash craters (but if you close, have a look, you never know), I do not have other bodies scanned there, but check AB 5 , looks like good candidate also.
Well done! Is this a system with Ancient Ruins or just a one you have been in?
I am trying to check the upper temperature limit for trees, so if you spot any suitable bodies have a quick look please. So far the warmest was 493K an I am trying to check bodies up to 800K.
Well done! Is this a system with Ancient Ruins or just a one you have been in?
I am trying to check the upper temperature limit for trees, so if you spot any suitable bodies have a quick look please. So far the warmest was 493K an I am trying to check bodies up to 800K.
Yes, 3 ancient ruins on this planet here (one 279 km away) - and 2 on the moon you can see in the pic - I'm in ruin central Of course I checked the locations in sunlight first - this was the first I checked in the shadows...
Moving toward Bubble checking systems with Ancient Ruins, so far fungal trees on:
HIP 39768
A 14 D A -34.3570 // 126.3179
IC 2391 Sector FL-X b1-7
A 3 -7.0199 // 3.7237
A 2 32.3710 // -66.7544
Synuefe XR-H d11-1 - no trees after checking 5 craters
Found some trees in Pencil Sector (never seen any ruins listed here, but it is in general Guardian area)
Pencil Sector OC-U a3-2
A 2 A 74.4974 // -113.2824
A 2 A 26.9764 // -177.0129
A 2 A 74.5058 // -113.2752
Can someone answer a question regarding the UL pointing behavior? I've been reading over the older posts during the time of the discoveries.
Does the pointing behavior only occur in the target system from the message in order to identify the planet, or does it also occur in other systems in order to point toward the target system?
If it's in system only, then it's still necessary to to the spheres intersection math to first find the target system, then once in system, deploy the link and use the pointing to find the body and location?
Does the pointing behavior only occur in the target system from the message in order to identify the planet, or does it also occur in other systems in order to point toward the target system?
If it's in system only, then it's still necessary to to the spheres intersection math to first find the target system, then once in system, deploy the link and use the pointing to find the body and location?
The planet Shintara is Founders World's true name. Shinrarta is the system.
Also, ones linguistical/grammatical prowess does not have bearing on facts. The fact that SDC is an Elite Federation of Pilots proxy or the theory of Shintara (not Shinrarta) being Raxxla does not change.
Out of rep for you at the moment and too much to rep you for over the last few days anyway, so have a bucketload of virtual +rep!
That's interesting on the original site. IIRC Melville hypothesised that the site was an outlier or last point of refuge, so that may tie in with the lack of braintrees.
In general the correlation between Guardian territory and the Braintrees looks increasingly strong.
So 3 possibilities:
1. Coincidence.
2. Causative (direct or indirect), braintrees->Guardians
3. Causative (direct or indirect), Guardians->braintrees
Don't think we can rule any out 100% at the moment, but 1 seems increasingly unlikely.
2. Could be possible given the usefulness of the braintrees, but would rely in there being a plausible mechanism for their pre-Guardian distribution over 1,000s of ly.
3. Seems most likely. The braintrees effectively act as biological mineral extractors. That could either be natural or bioengineered but either way it fits in well with the lore on Guardian tech and ecolgical principles.
That's interesting on the original site. IIRC Melville hypothesised that the site was an outlier or last point of refuge, so that may tie in with the lack of braintrees.
In general the correlation between Guardian territory and the Braintrees looks increasingly strong.
What I can say that every system I checked (apart from one, but I did chceck only one splash crater, this is very far from saying there are no fungal trees there, there were hundreds of normal craters on this body), that was falling into 209K-493K and volcanism criteria in general Guardian teritory had fungal trees. Of course we talking of 1000's of unchecked systems so nothing is sure. I find them not only in systems with ruins, I did switch to ruins, because I know the bodies there have the right surface temperature, so I do not need to search, I only check on EDSM if there is a volcanic activity on any suitable ones.
I am very sure there is correlation between Guardians and fungal trees. I have been checking plenty of craters before with shrinking POI-s which were always a minable rocks. As we know how easy they are to find I think our knowlege of where we can find them will be much bigger soon. Hopefully independent pilots will help
The planet Shintara is Founders World's true name. Shinrarta is the system.
Also, ones linguistical/grammatical prowess does not have bearing on facts. The fact that SDC is an Elite Federation of Pilots proxy or the theory of Shintara (not Shinrarta) being Raxxla does not change.
Also, ones linguistical/grammatical prowess does not have bearing on facts. The fact that SDC is an Elite Federation of Pilots proxy or the theory of Shintara (not Shinrarta) being Raxxla does not change.
That was a simple bad joke... And to expand on it, I'd say that at least orthographical prowess does matter, as proving that "Shintara is Raxxla" is not the same thing as proving that "Shinrarta is Roxxor", especially for the people reading it and checking said facts
I did notice the "water of Shintara" thing but never took the time to search more info. About it being Founder's World original name, is it stated in-game or in the books? Just to know, I wasn't aware of that.
According to the rather vague explanations given by Luko in Premonition, the power structure is somewhat confusing.
A few quotes:
Luko: 'Shinrarta is the world of the Founders, they who sit above the Pilots’ Federation. Is said they have much power, but they are not the Dark Wheel, I think.’
Rebecca: ‘You think the Dark Wheel advertises on a station board in plain sight? That we need rookie pilots to drag a couple of tonnes of thrumpberry flavouring across to Hutton Orbital? A trivial ploy to keep the Founders off our backs.
Rebecca: '‘You should not consider the Dark Wheel a single organisation, gentlemen. How could it survive for so long if it were? The Wheel has many levels, many hubs, cogs, gears and spokes. It is more akin to an affiliation of organisations that share certain common goals. Interlocking in purpose.'
Raan and Luko: ‘Wait,’ Raan couldn’t hold back. ‘Raxxla is a fairy story for children, what you’re talking about is those crazy stories about the Dark Wheel …’ ‘Not the same.’ Luko shook his head. ‘Not the same at all. They(The Club) need no names, no identification. They just are. As for Raxxla, what better way to hide it than make it out to be a myth? Only the crazy ones go looking …’
What we have are three powerful groups.
- The Founders, controls Founders world and the Pilots Federation. No one has more control over us as commanders, but they probably don't know Raxxla.
- The Dark Wheel, old mythical conglomerate of organisations. Those in the inner circle probably knows the secret of Raxxla. The faction in Shinrarta Dezhra is a decoy. A faction like 'Ryder's Revolutionary Party' may possibly be another DW front. DW are focused on finding anything secret or mysterious in the galaxy, but they mostly keep what they find to them self.
- The Club(unofficial name given by Bill Turner), secretly manipulates everything in human society. Extremely wealthy and powerful. They may well be the original controllers of Raxxla, described in The Dark Wheel(the book) by Rafe Zetter: 'Because there are people on Raxxla already. This is only a guess, mind you, but from what happened to Jason(Ryder) I'd say it was close to being right. We've long suspected that a corps of Elites lives there, and are exploiting the gateway. They're powerful, twisted men. Powerful enough to hire an assassin to kill the threat to their dominance.'
They may also control CIEP (Circle of Independant and Elite Pilots), an 'evil' splinter organisation from the Dark Wheel.
None of these groups are going to tell us much. They all have a fetish for Elite pilots, but that's really the only thing that points to Shinrarta Dezhra.
We are about as close to finding Raxxla as we were in 1984.
According to the rather vague explanations given by Luko in Premonition, the power structure is somewhat confusing.
A few quotes:
Luko: 'Shinrarta is the world of the Founders, they who sit above the Pilots’ Federation. Is said they have much power, but they are not the Dark Wheel, I think.’
Rebecca: ‘You think the Dark Wheel advertises on a station board in plain sight? That we need rookie pilots to drag a couple of tonnes of thrumpberry flavouring across to Hutton Orbital? A trivial ploy to keep the Founders off our backs.
Rebecca: '‘You should not consider the Dark Wheel a single organisation, gentlemen. How could it survive for so long if it were? The Wheel has many levels, many hubs, cogs, gears and spokes. It is more akin to an affiliation of organisations that share certain common goals. Interlocking in purpose.'
Raan and Luko: ‘Wait,’ Raan couldn’t hold back. ‘Raxxla is a fairy story for children, what you’re talking about is those crazy stories about the Dark Wheel …’ ‘Not the same.’ Luko shook his head. ‘Not the same at all. They(The Club) need no names, no identification. They just are. As for Raxxla, what better way to hide it than make it out to be a myth? Only the crazy ones go looking …’
What we have are three powerful groups.
- The Founders, controls Founders world and the Pilots Federation. No one has more control over us as commanders, but they probably don't know Raxxla.
- The Dark Wheel, old mythical conglomerate of organisations. Those in the inner circle probably knows the secret of Raxxla. The faction in Shinrarta Dezhra is a decoy. A faction like 'Ryder's Revolutionary Party' may possibly be another DW front. DW are focused on finding anything secret or mysterious in the galaxy, but they mostly keep what they find to them self.
- The Club(unofficial name given by Bill Turner), secretly manipulates everything in human society. Extremely wealthy and powerful. They may well be the original controllers of Raxxla, described in The Dark Wheel(the book) by Rafe Zetter: 'Because there are people on Raxxla already. This is only a guess, mind you, but from what happened to Jason(Ryder) I'd say it was close to being right. We've long suspected that a corps of Elites lives there, and are exploiting the gateway. They're powerful, twisted men. Powerful enough to hire an assassin to kill the threat to their dominance.'
They may also control CIEP (Circle of Independant and Elite Pilots), an 'evil' splinter organisation from the Dark Wheel.
None of these groups are going to tell us much. They all have a fetish for Elite pilots, but that's really the only thing that points to Shinrarta Dezhra.
We are about as close to finding Raxxla as we were in 1984.
For my part I don't think Shinrarta Dezhra (or anywhere in it) makes sense as a candidate for Raxxla. Haven't seen the full rationale for it admittedly, but the points I have seen for it seem to me to actually be counter the idea.
I also don't think the club are the people who control Raxxla. I mean, they could be, but I don't think it stacks up. My view at the moment given everything we know is that the club are themselves unwitting pawns.
How tinfoilly and into the whole Raxxla and club stuff are we going on this thread btw?
The plan is to have a dedicated forum section for this so it hopefully won't be all over. The mods, Brett, and myself will be working to keep the spoiler content to a very specific section so that it's not in everyone's faces who want to experience the new content for themselves.
As for the way it's going to be delivered, this will be through the game as it currently stands - not an additional part of the game. It'll still be within the same galaxy driven by the same data. It also won't be all in one go, since some aspects will be happening later. It'll be an ongoing endeavour.
For my part I don't think Shinrarta Dezhra (or anywhere in it) makes sense as a candidate for Raxxla. Haven't seen the full rationale for it admittedly, but the points I have seen for it seem to me to actually be counter the idea.
I also don't think the club are the people who control Raxxla. I mean, they could be, but I don't think it stacks up. My view at the moment given everything we know is that the club are themselves unwitting pawns.
How tinfoilly and into the whole Raxxla and club stuff are we going on this thread btw?
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