Maybe because people have already paid for it as part of the ED universe, space legs shouldn`t be coming as a surprise to FD, its something that should be in the pipeline. Talk of a separate game and kickstarter is pure nonsense.
Will I ever be able to get out of my ship?
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That survey is a little weird. Shouldn't atmospheric planets be part of exploration? What new content/gameplay would those add, apart from a new drop out animation and a sky?
More ships? Again, where's the new content/gameplay? Just another frame to fill with standard modules.
And apparently even fewer people are interested in Thargoids.
I don't get why all those additions are ok per se, but when somebody mentions space legs, all you hear is "but there's no content!". It's easy to say something doesn't add content if you look at it without context.
More ships? Again, where's the new content/gameplay? Just another frame to fill with standard modules.
And apparently even fewer people are interested in Thargoids.
I don't get why all those additions are ok per se, but when somebody mentions space legs, all you hear is "but there's no content!". It's easy to say something doesn't add content if you look at it without context.
And so another KS FAQ pledge bites the dust. Thanks for that. At least we know where we stand, which is nowhere except the Holo-Me suite.
Yours,
An obnoxious child.
Yours,
An obnoxious child.
Space legs was never promised from the start to be anything in the base game but as a possible expansion
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Also "talk of a a separate game and kickstarter is pure nonsense" is your own nonsense
It would be the equivalents of a whole new game was the import, stop being disingenuous so as to have a reason to be indigent over your own faulty recollection of promises you feel you are own that you are not and choing to twist statements to claim they are nonsense
......and if all this Holo Me customisation is not for space legs which now seem like a glint in DB`s eye. Then they are just trinkets for the natives, to many money from with in store purchases. That`s a particularly cynical move while delivering SFA.
Emmm...not to defend FD here - I think they are wrong with delaying space legs - but KS never pledged to have space legs in game. Most important feature for many were landing on planets which was major selling point of expansion pass.
Also he really didn't say anything different than it has been said for last year - space legs are long way off, they need solid gameplay around it. And they want to focus on close and present tasks.
edit: also no one talks about different game, KS or anything like that.
edit 2: Holo Me is here because of NPC avatars. They wanted to give us and avatars faces to make universe feel alive.
So let's cool down salt a bit.
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If the full l337 f337 experience isn't happening anytime in the near future maybe there could be other ways to show off your Cmdr to other players and imply that they don't spend all their time sitting in the chair.
Some way to manually place your commander for screenshots in the camera suite maybe. So you hit a button and you can drag the guy around like a chess piece.
So an in game way to produce pictures like
And then some kind of visitors board so you can see that pic of all the commanders who have visited the station you are at.
Maybe the game generates a mugshot of every visiting commander at customs, which you can view if you are allied to the controlling faction, or pay a small bribe to an appropriate contact.
That would 1: Let you see other peoples avatars and show off yours and 2: Imply the commanders got out of their ship long enough to pose for a mugshot at security.
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Then a huge portion of the player base must be all wrong, as from the beginning they have been led to believe that space legs was a future part of ED that was in the pipeline. Maybe it should have been made clear by FD from the beginning the problems with delivering same and that it was extremely unlikely. This would have avoided any confusion, then again maybe you don`t mind being sent mixed messages.
All this talk of a "kickstand" and "separate game" was brought up by a previous poster which I responded to. How is it disingenuous to use such terms in replying to a post in which the said terms were used. Buff up on your comprehension skills, such things seem a bit above you and you get offended.
When FD has said it is extremely unlikely? All they have said consistently that space legs is something they want to do and want to do right.
It is healthy to remind sceptical, but I think it is a bit harsh to jump to conclusions that quickly here.
Are you serious now? That is in 3.0. No "space legs" you can not wait?
It's very sad. Excuse me for maybe a bad translation.
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"Can I leave the space ship?
Yes, but not in the initial release. The core release of the game focusses on the ships and space. We'll then be working to expand the game. This includes exploring your ship and space stations. The potential content for Elite is huge,so we're keeping a sensible strategy to add to the game in stages."
Yes, but not in the initial release. The core release of the game focusses on the ships and space. We'll then be working to expand the game. This includes exploring your ship and space stations. The potential content for Elite is huge,so we're keeping a sensible strategy to add to the game in stages."
I've no objection to paying for an expansion, but until I can "explore my ship and space stations" I will continue to see that as an unfulfilled pledge.
And while Dale's post isn't exactly a nail in the coffin, it sure feels as though that feature has been kicked even further into the long grass than it already was. Man, that grass looks really long from here.
Do the NPCs buy a lot of Flight Suits then?
It's no use getting legs until there's something to so when ambling about. I'm for this as well, but we'd need developed station interiors and ships before this becomes a reality. It may be part of the coming improvements along with atmo planets and Earth like worlds with dinosaur hunting preserves.
Elite is a marathon, not a sprint.
Elite is a marathon, not a sprint.
I'm not overly fussed by Space Legs personally, I'd rather the time spent on adding to the Galaxy and essentially tweaking (a lot) of what we already have, that is supposedly the 2.5 update by all accounts anyway.
I never seen it as pledge. But ok, I understand your point there.
But Dale did not say anything that wasn't said for at least a year. Granted, about year ago I thought 3.0 will be about space legs and yes, I was disappointed when FD decided they finally need to say something about it and cooled our expectations considerably. And although I don't like to hear those statements, doesn't make them less repeating same statements as before.
Also Dale is right on many points - lot of space legs games have failed around us, it is really not that desired feature anymore, there are much more important things to improve, it is very expensive and huge work, and it needs solid plan and reasoning to be done. I still want space legs. But he is right...FD despite recent success does not have pile of money and idle devs to take that risk right now.
Looking at whole thing my only problem (and it is big one) is that FD haven't said anything about the future of game for very long time. I really hope Frontier Expo makes up for this in spades. I really want to know both when next expansion comes, what it might include (give us major features, no details), and what core gameplay updates will include.
So FD were wrong to develop avatars, to give avatars and commanders faces? I haven't bough a single flight suit yet, nor I feel forced to do so.
TL: DR version, "No ETA, no guarantees."
I'm sorry, but who did not laugh at that statement?
Does any feature of Elite currently have "meaningful" activities?
Power play? Nope
CqC? Nope
Engineers? Nope
Multi crew? Nope
They have grind for sure, but meaningful Persistent activities?
NOPE.
TL: DR version, "No ETA, no guarantees."
I dunno man. I am pretty sure they have straight up said that haven't started working on it and they don't know if it would
be worth the effort.
Which, I mean, it is what it is.
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So, how about when you join a wing the game automatically generates a group photo of you and your fellow commanders and saves it to your scrapbook.
Something like this -
Likewise, if you join a multi crew session the game creates a crew photo:-
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Life is meaningless and then you quit and come on forums.
As I said I don't have an issue in waiting for space legs, be it another couple of years. If that's the case I think the holo me customisation is somewhat cynical.