Faceware in Star Citizen & the 'Commander Chronicles: Retaliation' Short
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It was encouraging to see that avatars are rigged full face animation, even if it's not an in game feature.
It'll be great for fan fiction if a face tracking solution is implemented down the line. Even just base lip sink with some selectable expressions would be good.
Also, I want my holo-me to smile, the miserable so and so...
It'll be great for fan fiction if a face tracking solution is implemented down the line. Even just base lip sink with some selectable expressions would be good.
Also, I want my holo-me to smile, the miserable so and so...
I think so too. I'd be more concerned about client performance today than Frontier quietly developing on the side. The cinematic shows that they have been, just like how the (season one) launch trailer had some kind of character generation in the engine back then .. but it was a season and a half before we saw that in 2.3 release.
I think faceware is the future basically. It could also be a very interesting machine learning project when it comes to what you do when there's a VR unit on your face - self teach a subroutine to extrapolate a position for your eyebrows (the tracker can't see) from the shape of your lips, which it can? There's already faceware out there but if Frontier were able to develop a more optimised / more intelligent version, then they might land themselves a nice proprietary software, that they can sell .. so I don't think it's reasonable to count it out, even if it's not something people think especially fits with ED right now.
I think it probably will though and that it'd be a very different technology to game missions content, that I think most people want to see brought further to the front in ED soon as possible. Plainly the avatar machette can have animations loaded on to it - and a guy working on different inputs in a back room doesn't get in the way of that for me. It's also not 1980 any more .. and Frontier need a game product they can sell for the NEXT 20 years, which means not being content with the indusrty standards of the previous decade.
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Yeah, that's cool, but as an actual game feature, it isn't something I would ever bother with.
Exactly. Really cool and has some definite uses, but there are a lot of other things that need looking at before it. Like exploration, a better way to handle crafting, ways to play the BGS that don't involve grinding the same kind of mission over and over because it's the only good way to increase your pet faction's influence. Heck, grinding in general is a problem.
I think it would be cool if they added it, but not at the expense of QoL features many of us have been asking for.
And personally, I would prefer space legs first.
I would be OK with a system like Rainbow Six Vegas had 11 years ago where your characters mouth moved when you talked. It wasn't synced using a camera, but was better than being a ventriloquist ;-)
And it would be nice to see the holo-me avatars affected by g-forces like the first person perspective is - maybe even have them frown when their ship is being fired on.
Currently, the impressive looking holo-me avatars have the default unconcerned look even when in combat and on the verge of death :-(
I'd be happy with lip syncing to voice (Arma III does this), and the head tracking being visible to other multicrew CMDRs.
So if I look at them and speak, my CMDR will look that way too, and move his lips accordingly.
Works well enough in Arma 3.
So if I look at them and speak, my CMDR will look that way too, and move his lips accordingly.
Works well enough in Arma 3.
FD, just give our avatars the opportunity to smile ..... just a little ..... please 
FD, just give our avatars the opportunity to smile ..... just a little ..... please
Did you see the Thargoid retaliation?
I think I know why the avatar commanders, look quite worried most of the time.
As someone that often plays in VR... I'm not entirely convinced any other CMDR wants to see a 60fps animation of my "Oculus Face"...
As for uses... Content creators making ED based vids, perhaps? Not really sure how the Devs currently deal with facial animations, but I'm guessing it's hard coded mostly. Honestly, I think finger and hand tracking to allow you to flick switches would probably be far more amusing, though not really needed either, for those with a higher end HOTAS.
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FD, just give our avatars the opportunity to smile ..... just a little ..... please
I want my CMDR to be able to do this:
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Head-look attached to my Rift would be good enough for me
Or even just POV in general, for that matter. I noticed my Commander's collar moving as he was looking around even though I had moved my view over facing somewhere else.
See, that's something I'd love to see.
As a flight-sim fan, being able to move to VR would be a complete game-changer.
Trouble is, like most flight-sim fans, I also aspire to a proper sim-pit full of switches, knobs and levers.... which you can't see when you're using VR.
If there was some way to accurately track hand position (some kind of funky gloves, pehaps?) then that'd really be a step forward.
Given that most sim-pits tend to either be generic or "in the style of" a particular aircraft, I guess that "calibrating" a VR hand-tracker would be a complete nightmare though.
Seems like the game-dev would have to make the in-game "cockpit" completely configurable or the player would have to build a sim-pit to be a fairly close approximation of the in-game cockpit.
Personally, I suspect a better real-world solution would be to pursue some kind of "Augmented Reality" system whereby the VR headset either has a HD camera built-in or uses clever lenses so that looking down allows you to see stuff in the real world and looking straight ahead fills your view with the in-game display.
Doing it using VR hand-tracking would be amazing, though, if it was 100% reliable because it'd mean you could create a sim-pit with no functional controls at all.
You'd be able to just cobble together a pit using all sorts of non-functional switches, knobs and levers and not have to worry about connecting them up to controller boards because the flight-sim, itself, would recognise what controls you were activating from the hand-tracking movements.