So, what reasons do we have, as of now, to shoot &/or kill any Thargoids we encounter?

As far as I've seen, alls the ones that we encounter do, is scavange, and creepily stare at us. No one has actually seen a Thargoid lay waste to a fleet. We've only seen the flowers be passive, and only resorting to violence when we ignore their warnings to stay away, or if we fire upon them. The only alarming things about the ones we have seen thus far, have been their love of human escape pods, (and we don't know the reasons behind this) and their impenatrable shields, which are now no longer invulnerable. Which just leaves their love of humans. Why are they collecting us? Research? Food? Saving us from something? Are they sadists? Has any Galnet articles come up about escape pods showing up at stations?

Now that we can kill them, we should be asking, "Should we?"
 
Moreso, what are these? Scouts? Drones? Scavengers? Creatures in vessels? Or space-farring lifeforms? Why are they at these waste zones, collecting stuff?
 
Yeah, I saw one harvesting escape pods last night. Given that, in the lore, humanity invented a bio-weapon to attack Thargoids in the past, I'm wondering if they're looking for humans to repay in kind...

...or, are they taking them to learn more about humanity in a bid to learn to communicate more effectively?

It's true that we've never seen them actually attack the ships that we find in the green mist, but isn't it more than coincidental that we see them at EVERY one of these sites?
 
The tooker jubs!

They could be rescuing those pilots, not eating them.

But as of now is there any other interactions programmed?
 
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I suspect these new weapons are very much a kneejerk reaction to their appearance. I'm hoping they'll be as effective when we find the real culprit...
 
...We've only seen the flowers be passive, and only resorting to violence when we ignore their warnings to stay away, or if we fire upon them....

I was curious and went looking for them just to say hi after 2.4 released. I dropped into 3 or 4 of their signal sources. Each time I did they attacked me as soon as I dropped out of SC. I never deployed weapons or targeted them.

I will continue to seek them out and look for peaceful ones to interact with but if I am fired upon I'll light them up and collect their parts.
 

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FD told us that we should be very afraid.

That sounds like a pretty good reason.
 
We've seen a fair number of reports of unprovoked Thargoid aggression.

At any rate, I'll treat them the same way I treat humans in space: presume they are hostile, prepare for hostlity, but don't act on that presumption until they prove it. I may not go out of my way to be friendly to them, but I'm willing to live and let live as long as they are.

The moment they take hostile action against me, it's weapons free, however. And ripping me out of witchspace tends to lead me to view subsequent actions as hostile... just as it does when a human rips me out of supercruise.

I will certainly equip Almace, my exploration ship, with AX missiles and a Xeno scanner... just in case.
 
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That could be a very good reason why they're taking people, other than nefarious reasons. We do it here irl. How many times have we ripped organisms out of their natural habitat to study their behaviors, communcation, social hierarchy, etc. These Thargoids may simply be taking escape pods, instead of abducting people outright, as to cover their tracks. People are less likely to miss those who go missing, if it's from a combat wreckage, instead of straight out of a station or home. Could very well be a ploy to keep their profile down, but we keep interupting them, lol. They may not be nasty, so they're not destroying witnesses to cover their tracks, or perhaps they're like us irl, and don't care if we see. How often do scientists care if a school of fish sees a sbu scoop one fish up?

Edit: I meant to reply to greeandpom.
 
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Personally, I find the fact they are scooping up manned escape pods a bit disturbing. Sure they could be rescuing them, but as of yet I haven't seen a single report where the pods have shown up at stations or dropped off in shipping lanes for rescue. I'm sure they are capable of finding human stations and nudging manned escape pods through the mailslot but they haven't appeared to do so yet :(

I've made it one of my missions to rescue manned pods before they get scooped up.
 
Yeah, I saw one harvesting escape pods last night. Given that, in the lore, humanity invented a bio-weapon to attack Thargoids in the past, I'm wondering if they're looking for humans to repay in kind...

...or, are they taking them to learn more about humanity in a bid to learn to communicate more effectively?

It's true that we've never seen them actually attack the ships that we find in the green mist, but isn't it more than coincidental that we see them at EVERY one of these sites?

That's actually just rumored in the lore and a more recent retcon. If we want to go based on history, Thargoids were just straight up hostile in the original Elite. FD originally created them as just generic bug aliens that attack at random. So if they do want to make them more complicated, that retcon is part of the years long process to do that.

Still though, if we go on the past 3 games, never once have they tried to send pi at us or anything like that.
 
I managed to rescue one pod before it was hoovered up.

Cost me 1 ship launched fighter plus 18% hull damage (Corvette with reactive armour and module + hull reinforcements)...

The new repair limpets are great - 1 repaired al the hull damage. Bit worrying that I only took 20% loss of shields.
 
As far as I've seen, alls the ones that we encounter do, is scavange, and creepily stare at us. No one has actually seen a Thargoid lay waste to a fleet. We've only seen the flowers be passive, and only resorting to violence when we ignore their warnings to stay away, or if we fire upon them. The only alarming things about the ones we have seen thus far, have been their love of human escape pods, (and we don't know the reasons behind this) and their impenatrable shields, which are now no longer invulnerable. Which just leaves their love of humans. Why are they collecting us? Research? Food? Saving us from something? Are they sadists? Has any Galnet articles come up about escape pods showing up at stations?

Now that we can kill them, we should be asking, "Should we?"

You're right, looks like in the ED universe there is no prime directive for close encounters, and most of the pilots feel like they are in the Wild West.
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Also, if we are just going at it from a strictly xenobiology standpoint, the Thargoids are rumored to be hive insect like. If that is the case, the loss of a few members of their society would not seem like an act of war to them. Ants will send out drones just to probe and if other animals kill them, they just mark that area as not good to be in. If we show them that we react with extreme hostility to the capture of individual members of our species, they may recognize that we are each unique and take the loss of individuals much more seriously.

Even if they are incapable of empathizing with us, destroying any of their ships that try to capture us is a good sign that our colonies are not a good place to set up shop. If they are completely superior to us and hostile, it's irrelevant anyway. If they are superior to us and also benevolent, they will seek to understand why we react to that with such hostility.
 
Personally, I find the fact they are scooping up manned escape pods a bit disturbing. Sure they could be rescuing them, but as of yet I haven't seen a single report where the pods have shown up at stations or dropped off in shipping lanes for rescue. I'm sure they are capable of finding human stations and nudging manned escape pods through the mailslot but they haven't appeared to do so yet :(

I've made it one of my missions to rescue manned pods before they get scooped up.

Given they've altered the lore as needed since ED is more of a reboot than an actual sequel, I'm inclined to believe the Thargoids aren't being friendly. They do get angry over escape pods, and will also collect them if you drop one. Their reaction is very similar to how they act in relation to Meta-Alloys.

Either they're collecting the pods and making Solyent Green, or they're harvesting the genetic materials for some unknown purpose. I doubt we'll see any of those people again. Lets also not forget that Thargoid technology disables Human technology and the interior of their ships are quite cold. That alone implies any collected pods will likely leave the occupants dead in short order. Then of course there are the Guardians who were likely wiped out by the Thargoids. They go berzerk when you have Guardian tech on board your ship, which confirms a connection.

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As far as strictly adhering to lore, I look at it this way. Given the events of FFE, the Thargoids could easily have contacted humanity and proposed a armistice, or asked us to leave their barnacle sights alone. They've communicated in the past and actively chose not to this time around. They also chose to hide in the shadows and then launch surprise attacks without any dialogue. To me, that speaks volumes. Just because they're ignoring us unless we do certain things, or are carrying specific items, does not make them friendly, or even neutral. It simply means they don't consider us a serious threat, or particularly worth talking to. Given what we do to each other, can you blame them?

"We don't know much about aliens, but we know about humans. If you look at history, contact between humans and less intelligent organisms have often been disastrous from their point of view, and encounters between civilizations with advanced versus primitive technologies have gone badly for the less advanced. A civilization reading one of our messages could be billions of years ahead of us. If so, they will be vastly more powerful, and may not see us as any more valuable than we see bacteria." - Stephen Hawking
 
What if they are harvesting the occupied human escape pods, because they then genetically manipulate the contents to create their thargons? Yup, that swam of thargons coming at you, used to be your wingmen...

I'd quite like it if it were at least this creepy. Either that or human spaghetti bolognese, insect style.
 
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