General / Off-Topic Blade Runner 2049

PigKiller

PigKiller
Toumal said:
RT gave JJ Abrams Star Trek reboot 9.9/10 when it came out, more than "Citizen Kane". Don't take that score literally.
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Movies have become so awful over the last decade that the bar has been lowered to just inches. Anything that lasts more then a week is considered a 'Block-Buster'.
Heck the movies this summer never even made it over that low obstacle.
We're just recycling pop-culture over and over again.
 
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Insomnia

Insomnia
EUS said:
Blade Runner, one of my favorite movies.
Fingers crossed for this.
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I know there are people who doesn't believe in the opinions of others, but this movie has been getting extremely good reviews and critique it cannot be ignored. I'm very anxious to see it!
 

Iskariot

Iskariot
Insomnia said:
I know there are people who doesn't believe in the opinions of others, but this movie has been getting extremely good reviews and critique it cannot be ignored. I'm very anxious to see it!
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I was glad to hear it was well received, as the first movie is my all time favorite cyberpunk movie, but I heard a journalist say something that made me suspicious.
"Robots want to take over the world."

I hope that was just an ignorant statement by someone who has no clue, because that never was what 's book was about.
I have seen too many hyperbolic Hollywood scifi about aliens, robots, people, animals, etc. etc. who all want to rule the world for some incomprehensible reason.
Philip K 's replicants just want the right to live their lives and that is what makes them truly tragic, and you can therefore feel for them.
 
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Insomnia

Insomnia
Iskariot said:
I was glad to hear it was well received, as the first movie is my all time favorite cyberpunk movie, but I heard a journalist say something that made me suspicious.
"Robots want to take over the world."

I hope that was just an ignorant statement by someone who has no clue, because that never was what 's book was about.
I have seen too many hyperbolic Hollywood scifi about aliens, robots, people, animals, etc. etc. who all want to rule the world for some incomprehensible reason.
Philip K 's replicants just want the right to live their lives and that is what makes them truly tragic, and you can therefore feel for them.
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I understand why that made you suspicious. And I honestly don't think that reporter understand the complexity of a replicant.

The only thing I'm worried about is actually Harrison Ford. He seems to be too old for movies like these as he seems to be confused who the character he plays is. Look at Han Solo in The Force Awakens. Ford is nowhere near Solo in terms of personality, but that might also be something that JJ Abrams saw to...
I don't know but Ford just seems...misplaced these days.
 

Iskariot

Iskariot
Insomnia said:
I understand why that made you suspicious. And I honestly don't think that reporter understand the complexity of a replicant.
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I hope you are right. That statement by that journalist just sounded too simplistic and stupid to be true.
I want that movie to be awesome and powerful, just like the first one.

The only thing I'm worried about is actually Harrison Ford. He seems to be too old for movies like these as he seems to be confused who the character he plays is. Look at Han Solo in The Force Awakens. Ford is nowhere near Solo in terms of personality, but that might also be something that JJ Abrams saw to...
I don't know but Ford just seems...misplaced these days.
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Sadly I have to agree.
However if, in the Bladerunner sequel, Ford plays the old man he actually is, then this could be a powerful ingredient. It could give the movie a human face.
But I should not speculate. I hope my expectations are not too high.
 

FuzzySpider

FuzzySpider
Insomnia said:
The only thing I'm worried about is actually Harrison Ford. He seems to be too old for movies like these as he seems to be confused who the character he plays is. Look at Han Solo in The Force Awakens. Ford is nowhere near Solo in terms of personality, but that might also be something that JJ Abrams saw to...
I don't know but Ford just seems...misplaced these days.
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No no no!

The Crystal Skull wasn't Indy Jones, but I think he got Solo spot on in TFA. He didn't forget how to play that character.

My worry with this is Ridley Scott. The guy can make beautiful movies that turn out to be absolute crap (the recent Alien things).
 

Insomnia

Insomnia
FuzzySpider said:
No no no!

The Crystal Skull wasn't Indy Jones, but I think he got Solo spot on in TFA. He didn't forget how to play that character.

My worry with this is Ridley Scott. The guy can make beautiful movies that turn out to be absolute crap (the recent Alien things).
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Interesting. I couldn't see Solo in Fords performance in TFA. He felt a little off tbh. But as Iskariot said maybe he will fit the role perfectly as Deckard now when both has gotten old.

And yes, the more Ridley messes with the alien stories the more he ruins it. I regret I saw Covenant. It's not a bad movie. It's just not an Alien movie.
But I'm so frikkin glad Denis Villeneuve wanted to direct 2049 as this guy seems like he was born to direct it. Maybe he would direct the next Alien movies as well? :)
 

Frank

Frank
Iskariot said:
I was glad to hear it was well received, as the first movie is my all time favorite cyberpunk movie, but I heard a journalist say something that made me suspicious.
"Robots want to take over the world."

I hope that was just an ignorant statement by someone who has no clue, because that never was what 's book was about.
I have seen too many hyperbolic Hollywood scifi about aliens, robots, people, animals, etc. etc. who all want to rule the world for some incomprehensible reason.
Philip K 's replicants just want the right to live their lives and that is what makes them truly tragic, and you can therefore feel for them.
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I've just seen it, and I'm afraid your suspicions are grounded. This movie moves even further away from PK . I was expecting to see a bit of Mercer.

It isn't a bad movie but the homages to the original stick out a mile.

And the music is really off. They tried to capture the mood of the original but ended up with an electronic sawtooth crescendo way too early in the story, and so when they wanted to crank up the music in the exciting bit they had to turn the crescendo up to eleven.

The movie was a little on the po-faced side as well. All the bleak humour of the first movie was missing.
 

lysan

lysan
Frank said:
I've just seen it, and I'm afraid your suspicions are grounded. This movie moves even further away from PK . I was expecting to see a bit of Mercer.

It isn't a bad movie but the homages to the original stick out a mile.

And the music is really off. They tried to capture the mood of the original but ended up with an electronic sawtooth crescendo way too early in the story, and so when they wanted to crank up the music in the exciting bit they had to turn the crescendo up to eleven.

The movie was a little on the po-faced side as well. All the bleak humour of the first movie was missing.
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Oh no, that makes me really sad if that is the case, I was really hoping after the alien disaster it would be much better :(
 

Vasco Sapien

Vasco Sapien
Lysander lysan said:
Oh no, that makes me really sad if that is the case, I was really hoping after the alien disaster it would be much better :(
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Ignore what he said.

Go see it yourself and make up your own mind.... and if you understand and love the original movie (ignore the novel) you will understand and enjoy this new one.

Im a huge fan of the original Bladerunner, its been my fav film since i was a teenager. A sequel i was very vocal about not needing or wanting.

Ive read the book and to be honest i dont figure the movie franchise honestly needs to or has much link to the Novel by PKD.

As a sequel to the 'Movie' bladerunner, this is a wonderful and worthy follow on to the story we got back in 1982. Its ret-cons nothing and builds upon everything in thought provoking an interesting ways.

As an anti - Blade runner sequel (type person), i am completely converted. its a great film.
 

Alec Turner

Alec Turner
Saw it last night ... was with wife and son which coloured my experience since a lot of the women unnecessarily get their t%ts out which (quite rightly) coloured my wifes opinion and I had to cover my sons eyes a lot (he only went because it has the man from Enders Game in it ... bad parenting judgement call there).

That said ... what to say ... it looks AMAZING, I mean it's a visual treat. The sound is LOUD ... comment about it being turned up to 11 is spot on. The subtlety of the original (in many ways) is lost. Character develpment ... well, it reminds me of Prometheus vs. Alien ... everything is incredibly big and bold and grand, but something (quite a lot) is lost. I need to see it again I think. I'll never watch it repeatedly like I did the original but I think I actually liked it, much like I liked Prometheus (and Covenant). If you hated both of those then .... maybe best not to get your hopes up?
 

Vasco Sapien

Vasco Sapien
Did anyone notice, the themes in this new bladerunner that strenghen the theory that the Alien universe and the blade runner universe are one and the same..

Two i noticed.

1. The hologram of the forest created by the memory crafter. Was the same forest being enjoyed by ripley in Aliens on gateway station shortly after she is rescued.
2. When Office K and his lady friend visit the waste lands there is a looming structure that hovers in the mist above the Dam... That structure the nose section of a Conestoga-class USCM cruiser.
 
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Iskariot

Iskariot
Frank said:
I've just seen it, and I'm afraid your suspicions are grounded. This movie moves even further away from PK . I was expecting to see a bit of Mercer.

It isn't a bad movie but the homages to the original stick out a mile.

And the music is really off. They tried to capture the mood of the original but ended up with an electronic sawtooth crescendo way too early in the story, and so when they wanted to crank up the music in the exciting bit they had to turn the crescendo up to eleven.

The movie was a little on the po-faced side as well. All the bleak humour of the first movie was missing.
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Oh that is a bummer.

Do "robots" really want to take over the world in the sequel?
That would be a horrible perversion of Philip K 's Bladerunner story.
 
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Iskariot

Iskariot
Alec Turner said:
Saw it last night ... was with wife and son which coloured my experience since a lot of the women unnecessarily get their t%ts out which (quite rightly) coloured my wifes opinion and I had to cover my sons eyes a lot (he only went because it has the man from Enders Game in it ... bad parenting judgement call there).

That said ... what to say ... it looks AMAZING, I mean it's a visual treat. The sound is LOUD ... comment about it being turned up to 11 is spot on. The subtlety of the original (in many ways) is lost. Character develpment ... well, it reminds me of Prometheus vs. Alien ... everything is incredibly big and bold and grand, but something (quite a lot) is lost. I need to see it again I think. I'll never watch it repeatedly like I did the original but I think I actually liked it, much like I liked Prometheus (and Covenant). If you hated both of those then .... maybe best not to get your hopes up?
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Every american made scifi movie these days seems to lack any subtlety.
It is always loud, louder, loudest, big, bigger, biggest, over the top nonsensical thrills.
The only thing they know how to do these days is cram the movies full with CG and special FX, but the art of actually telling a deep story has been lost.
 
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