And some things need practice to get good at. Like it or not, it's the truth. If one doesn't have the time to put in practice, especially in competitive parts of games, they won't be on the level of someone who puts in the hours, even if that other player isn't especially gifted or using the best equipment money can buy.
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It's a moderately intuitive method to guide a relatively stable aeroplane along a forwards-facing path, and most definitely not all that great to navigate in 3D space.
The intuition part is also problematic, because it's about highly specialised training where a pilot needs to internalise the vehicle's often delayed behaviour between control input and result, just to tell it to face a certain way and keep doing so. With a mouse, you point at what you want to see and let the computer figure out how to do it, removing a lot of intermediate and in a game artificial complexity that some players (me included) choose to have.
Not true mate. I have the best money can buy, and I'm also 54.. failing eyesight, loss of hearing and just plain age taking it's toll. From an Ex mega-fit Army guy to a middle aged man. Having the best only highlights that given said 'best' I still cannot compete. Nor do I want to.. It just got me that some people have little time for anyone that doesn't match their level and dismiss them as has-beens. Not aimed at you at all.
To be fair, the OP does strike me as… a bit unreflected in the exact opposite way, to the point where I would consider responding to just do something else, in-game or out. The activities listed are skill tests (PvP interactions) or timesinks, and they're not for everyone. I'm probably right at the borderline too, with just about enough time to get a moderate amount of credits and progression, and skilled to a point where CQC (how I miss it) is fun but with a very moderate rate of success. Most of the time I spend in game is just sit down and enjoy the sights and sounds.
It's just the way the game is, and at some point I think it's fair to tell people that they may be happier looking for fun elsewhere.
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Demanding respect and common courtesy on an internet gaming forum...I mean, really?
I get what they are saying though. I have a job that demands a lot of my time, pets, a family and other commitments. I've got no problem with the pacing of the game. For the longest time, I only ever played with an Xbox controller at night after all were asleep and that setup got me from Sidey to Type 9. It took a long time, 18 months from the time my current save started during the Gamma test.
That's the thing though...this isn't the type of game you play for 15 hours and should expect to be 'max leveled'. It literally takes 100s of hours to get to the top end (without exploits). I like it that way and, I know it sounds selfish, but I don't want to see those long-awaited accomplishments be lessened to make it 'easier' for those with 'less' than the average play time.
Anyway, what I'm trying to say is, if a game can't leave you having fun with the time you have to give to it, then it isn't worth the little time you have.
It sounds like you should give exploration a go. It doesn't sound like much, but I very much enjoyed my first 1Kly+ venturings into the void (and 1Kly is NOTHING). Granted, it takes some time to put together the credits for a ship that allows you to do that without it being too much of a drag, but once you do, the galaxy is yours. PVP for us not-really-that-invested players is out of the question I think. When I feel like pew-pewing things up I keep things PVE and go into resource extraction zones or just pulling baddies out of supercruise. I do have my fair share of fun, and on a budget. I am a very poor commander by Elite's standards currently sitting at just 50m Credits in the bank.
From OPs post you seem a little lazy if anything, you threw a 4k TV out the window because of an error? Google is a friend on those times, repair shops exist for a reason... you complain about not being able to use a HOTAS or other Joystick... most of us PVP nerds use Mouse and keyboard anyway, it also less about the control setup you use and more the skill you actual have, I could beat you with all my controls bound to the keyboard.
well, if you want to be pedantic, no, it's not designed for flying in 6DOF and if we were to design a new method, it probably wouldn't involve joysticks or mice, but the fact of the matter is that Elite's flight model is more World War 2, than World War 22, and as such the mouse s highly non-intuitive. Anyway, I think we both know what the other is talking about.
People are actually trying to help take the mystique from the HOTAS. The fact of the matter is that while a HOTAS is great, it's not impossible to play this game without one. I use an X-Box controller. it takes no more skill to fly with an x box controller than it does with a keyboard or a HOTAS, you just have to either adjust the controls until you're comfortable with them, or find a control scheme and practice until you're comfortable with it, one of the two.
Some people like the higher level of fine control a Hotas can grant but it's absolutely not necessary if you put in the practice with other control devices. Blaming a HOTAS for losing a fight meant you either chose a bad fight and were outskilled, or you haven't had enough practice with your own controls -- one of the two. The solution is to improve yourself, not to whine or storm off in a huff. If you choose to interpret this as "git gud" that's up to you, but it's meant in the spirit of letting you know that HOTAS paranoia has no real place in ED.
Alternatively, PvP community could petition Frontier for opt-in PvP options that don't cost players rebuys, but instead reward/cost the player in other ways, like merits (Powerplay), influence (BGS work), or ranking (use that frelling CQC rank for something that's actually IN the game).
I don't bother with HOTAS because I can choose between a $15 chinese knockoff x-box controller or an 80 dollar device I'll only ever use to play one game... easy choice there. I went to the xbox controller at first because every flight game I'd played to that point had been on console... easy decision to try to abstract that into a bit of a leg up on the learning curve in this game, and of course now that I'm on xbox controller I'm kind of committed, not really prepared to relearn.
Actually mouse and keyboard users have a distinct aiming advantage over HOTAS users, especially in FA-Off. Some of the game's top PvP players are mouse and keyboard pilots.
If you really want a HOTAS though, boom:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0...hotas+x+pc&dpPl=1&dpID=41puaPbeDOL&ref=plSrch
£30 and it'll do you good for at least 4-5 years. I've had mine for about 5 years now and it's as solid as the day I first plugged it in. Configuring the buttons is a quick google search away for pictures of other people's bindings and videos on setting up the vanity camera bindings, which are a bit of a pain to set up.
I agree time is precious when you dont have a lot of it. I'm a single dad with 2 small children. Work full time sometimes more. Cub Scouts, Making Dinner, cleaning around the house, doing Homework with kids. Sometimes though you need to make a little time for yourself so you dont go insane. Games are my escape at night when all is finally quiet on the Western Front.
With that said I dont come on here complaining why the game needs to change to what I need. I come on here to ask how I can change my needs or setup to how the game is with my limited amount of time.
Just a joystick would do - you don't need a hotas at all. For combat jeez, one of these would do!...
Why FD would fundamentally change game for benefit of small group of players (yes, it is official)?
That's the latest high tech ED specialised PvP HOTAS! That button on there is the "iWin" button. The secret is out!
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You mad ! Solution is baning op hotas from game. Obviously.
One of the reasons I started playing ED, was because I didn't need to use a mouse to play it.
I sit in front of my desk all day using a keyboard and mouse, so my wrist often hurts (due to mild carpel tunnel). Using a joystick with lots of buttons on it is a much-needed change.