Kauruk Lockdown - Who's responsible?

Vasious

Vasious
Gombari Noah said:
So if it's bounty hunting that's required, let's get some multicrew going so all those pilots stuck in the station with rares they can't sell can help lift the lockdown. No rings in Kauruk - any good hunting grounds?
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I have found Shipping Lane USSes are often Weapons Fire Detected
Threat Four usually yields 2 to 4 high bounty ships

This is after two USS that popped up quickly; might not be much to RES hunting but I am sure each drop could in the bucket, and beats waiting at a Nav

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bendover

bendover
Emergent Gameplay is just another way of saying "I am going to find new ways to Screw the Game over mess it up for other People" It's not a Protest,It's just People excersize power over situation Because it makes them feel powerful
 

Gombari Noah

Gombari Noah
My 2p worth. It's a pain in the , but players did it so players can fix it. i'm sat at Kauruk in a full T7, but would hope into a fighter given the chance.
 
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Vasious

Vasious


Those stuck in Trade ships with Cargo -> Multi crew -> Other Actives -> Remembrance Week
Those Bounty Hunting, if you can Multi Crew your ship, get those Traders as Gunners and SLF crew -> Multi crew -> Other Actives -> Remembrance Week

Then we have more Cmdrs handing in bounties

Lets get this done

 

thelivingdeadguy

thelivingdeadguy
Just a further thought.

If this brings the community together, if everyone flies over to lift this bounty in the spirit of remembering those we've all lost, works together and clears the lockdown then, for me at least, the CG will actually have been even more of a success than had it gone ahead as usual and the guys who closed down the system will have failed utterly.

Time to step up 👍💪
 

iFred

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Normally I condemn actions like this. But in case of those CG´s I think I start shooting cops in Kauruk. Mainly because I personally don´t like the CG-approach of the "narrative". There are other options for FD to tell the story. An idea would be hidden bases on planets that already have those weapons and we have to find it (e.g. Galnet: "Rumours of a lone scientist in the xyz-sector"). 1000s of possibilities, and they have chosen the most boring one - CG´s.

But when the community manages to keep Kauruk in Lockdown until the CG ends it should send a pretty clear signal into the direction of Frontier :)
 

Vasious

Vasious
iFred said:
Normally I condemn actions like this. But in case of those CG´s I think I start shooting cops in Kauruk. Mainly because I personally don´t like the CG-approach of the "narrative". There are other options for FD to tell the story. An idea would be hidden bases on planets that already have those weapons and we have to find it (e.g. Galnet: "Rumours of a lone scientist in the xyz-sector"). 1000s of possibilities, and they have chosen the most boring one - CG´s.

But when the community manages to keep Kauruk in Lockdown until the CG ends it should send a pretty clear signal into the direction of Frontier :)
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I would just check which CG is which thee, before taking action.

Kauruk is hosting a remembrance week for those who have passed beyond this past year.
 

Goose4291

Banned
Goose4291
Firstly, congrats to Ollo for using the game mechanics.

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Secondly, congrats to the players trying to lift the CG. I'll be along to help you all shortly.

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bendover said:
Emergent Gameplay is just another way of saying "I am going to find new ways to Screw the Game over mess it up for other People" It's not a Protest,It's just People excersize power over situation Because it makes them feel powerful
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Imgran

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Aashenfox said:
It's legitimate emergent life if I shoot you in the head as you come out of the house (this is the universe's intended life/death mechanic), the only difference is that in life there are consequences, which is why people like ollo have to get their rocks off making statements that affect thousands of players. If the thargoids had caused the lock down, that would be FD giving us emergent gameplay. I already described what this is, some childish malcontent spoiling the game play to selfishly further a poorly considered and even worse defined agenda.

He freely admits he's holding the game to ransom, this would be illegal in reality and it should be in the game too.
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Holy hell, why so angry? who was just talking about being a little kid?
 

Nalessa

Nalessa
Wouldn't it be more productive though to, instead of out of spite try to ruin the cg for others, come up with ways to improve cg's with ideas of your own and present them to frontier?
 

Achibot

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Nalessa said:
Wouldn't it be more productive though to, instead of out of spite try to ruin the cg for others, come up with ways to improve cg's with ideas of your own and present them to frontier?
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There are lots of ideas out there for this. Thread after thread of suggestions. I've yet to see any official reply on any of them, nothing was presented at the Expo that would indicate they intend to change the mechanic and in all fairness if they won't even make changes to the Thargoid CG's to actually make Thargoid content relevant, possibly the most common-sense change that *can* be suggested, then what hope is there to influence wider changes to the mechanic?

Besides which, if simply playing the game - which is all these people have done - produces undesirable consequences then is that really the fault of the player using them or of the development team designing them?
 
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Tataboj

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Oh look, the same kind of guys as the ones who think ruining the game (Powerplay comes to mind) for hundreds of players every week makes the updates come faster. He really is the mastermind this game needs.
 

Chris Simon

Chris Simon
Achibot said:
There are lots of ideas out there for this. Thread after thread of suggestions. I've yet to see any official reply on any of them, nothing was presented at the Expo that would indicate they intend to change the mechanic and in all fairness if they won't even make changes to the Thargoid CG's to actually make Thargoid content relevant, possibly the most common-sense change that *can* be suggested, then what hope is there to influence wider changes to the mechanic?

Besides which, if simply playing the game - which is all these people have done - produces undesirable consequences then is that really the fault of the player using them or of the development team designing them?
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However I might agree with you and him that CGs are wasted opportunity for narrative, you seem to miss the crucial point here - this wasn't done for RP reasons, or even simply to have (stupid) fun. I would accept that. No, he, in his self-righteousness decided to take the game hostage and annoy as many people as possible, because he doesn't like a game mechanic.

He's like an activist who protests by lying down on a highway and stopping the traffic. It doesn't matter how justified he is and what he "fights" for, he's a jerk.
 
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Achibot

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Chris Simon said:
However I might agree with you and him that CGs are wasted opportunity for narrative, you seem to miss the crucial point here - this wasn't done for RP reasons, or even simply to have (stupid) fun. I would accept that. No, he, in his self-righteousness decided to take the game hostage and annoy as many people as possible, because he doesn't like a game mechanic. This in not even meta any more, it's pure attery.
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I was responding purely on the point of whether suggestions to Frontier are effective. They are not. I was in no defending the ruining of other people's fun and this sort of thing is not how I would choose to spend my time. But, by the same token, I can't condemn it because, while I agree with you that there *seems* to be an element of spite there, it is a perfectly permissible action under the rules of the game. I can condemn cheating and clear exploiting, but if you are playing a game by the rules and it sucks then you must accept that there is also an issue there. Ignoring that issue because the person pointing it out might be a bit of a brat is not sensible, in my opinion.

On a related note: Frontier keep their universe very locked down, with player influence generally kept to an absolute minimum and only ever in pre-approved directions. To my mind this massively increases the responsibility of the Developer to ensure that the few allowable options players can make are actually fun. This does not seem to a philosophy shared by FD and perhaps we should consider if that is not a large part of this problem? Ultimately, we can complain about negative people until we are blue in the face but people, in my experience, are the next thing to impossible to change. Much easier with the rules of a game.....
 
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