Are you guys happy with the current game and how the game has developed?

It is about Elite Dangerous + Horizons. Not about Elite Dangerous. FD trying their best to look good in terms of sales. But in fact, ED is not profitable enough to work hard enough on it.

That's not a fact, that assumption.

Consider FD have released two console versions and keep updating them. Consider FD predicted it will sell around 2 - 3M units (as later explained both ED and EDH are meant units) in 2017 financial year - year that will go on for at least six months.

FD never planned to put all eggs in ED basket. People might want them to do that, but FD and David is too clever for that. ED keeps them making money - I heard rumours cosmetics have been very good for it - and they are keen to improve it to give it more legs to stand on.

2.4kk copies is Elite Dangerous + Horizons + consoles in 3 year. That is really bad. Planet coaster did 1kk in 1 year. SOLO.

Bad comparing to what? It seems doing aright to comparing to ED own prognosis 4 years ago.

FD have one big advantage on a market. The Cobra Engine. One of the most unique engine nowdays. It is so unique that even Tencent can't hold itself to not invest into Cobra engine.

And that is what FD use. Their Cobra Engine. For fast developing really good games.

Not really. Cobra is just well developed and maintaned system. FD strength however is being able to cover full stack development and having well seasoned devs to support this approach. FD can crank their own graphics engine at will, they don't depend on third party middleware for critical parts of their games.

They are best prepared to develop and design ED. Other devs are just too small or inexperienced. Period.
 
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I'm happy with the game so far and I think development is generally heading in the right direction. My only disappointment was multi-crew. That should have been left alone until it was something broad and decent.

More would be nice of course, but that's life. We always want more. If FD tried to give us everything we would have nothing. AKA that other space game that hasn't left alpha after 5 years. Lulz.

It's certainly the best value for money considering the amount of time I've spent playing the game. The community is generally awesome. Apart from those who keep begging for space legs. [big grin]
 
I am on ps4, miles behind, i love it.
There are many improvements that could be made I admit, but I am down for the long haul.
Massive game, loads of different careers to try, spaceships. If that makes me a fanboy so be it.
I just wish I had had the game longer so I (hopefully) would be better by now.

Like with a corvette and PEW PEW and all that sort of carry on!
 
For me ED is a curious mix of the amazing (flying-about-business, graphics & sound) and the spectacularly under-whelming (the ‘game’ aspect). The former is enough to keep me interested and hopeful of improvements.
 
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Indeed. Much as I love the forums, there are 3554 members here (https://forums.frontier.co.uk/memberlist.php) and, according to recent financial figures, some 2.5 million copies of Elite: Dangerous sold. Given a lot of people have one or more alt accounts lets say there are 1.5 million ED players. So the forums represent about 0.24% of the ED community. Damn! And I thought the ED galaxy made me feel small and insignifcant!! :p
There is also the problem where a handful of posters are responsible for the majority of posts.

Meaning that the "opinion" of the forums is mostly just that of maybe 100 active posters.

Some people refuse to acknowledge this because it disrupts the illusion that the small clique of posters here represents the True Will Of the People.


Fortunately math don't give a fig what people think. A self selected sample of 100 people is not a valid representation of a population of several million.

And no amount of denial will change that.
 
I think you are wrong on ED being not profitable and Q4 not being released on time.

But both things are beyond us to know about without owning magical TARDIS so I will leave you to that.
That is what Beyond is all about :D

Who say to you that i have a Time And Relative Dimension In Space?
 
Received as a gift on PS4 in early August, 1.5 months later I bought a dedicated PC + VR setup, just for this game. Zero regrets, only wish I'd know about it sooner.

Does the game have bugs and limitations and little eye-rolling things? Of course. Everything does. There is no panacea.

Yet it does so much, so well, that I just enjoy existing in the galaxy, farting around with various tasks.
 
The million pounds quiestion, though, is - Why these people see Elite differently than other games?
With almost every other game people read or hear what the game is about and, depending on whether it is or isn't their cup of tea, they're gonna buy it or not.

That doesn't seem to be the case with Elite. Some people come here with, sometimes really misguided, idea of what they THINK the game should be, and then complain that it isn't. :D

They say "its not finished yet" and make promises with trailers and expos then take a long time to implement it with little communication as though we'll all pack it in if they said "sorry guys another 3 months". Its the closest thing to personal star wars/trek on the market but its also a time tax on the optimist.

Ps mission payouts ⬆
 
I think you are wrong on ED being not profitable and Q4 not being released on time.

But both things are beyond us to know about without owning magical TARDIS so I will leave you to that.

There is no point in talking to Insane4un a lot of what he say make no logical sense, so it is best to ignore him when he starts talking about financials. Also we know that ED has a seperate team then the other franchises, but let him have his rant. I think it makes him feel better.
 
I think we are in same boat here, let's not fight. Insane4fun, have a nice evening and I hope your hope for game will be restored during Beyond.

Everybody else - stay safe and have fun out there!
 
Indeed. Much as I love the forums, there are 3554 members here (https://forums.frontier.co.uk/memberlist.php) and, according to recent financial figures, some 2.5 million copies of Elite: Dangerous sold. Given a lot of people have one or more alt accounts lets say there are 1.5 million ED players. So the forums represent about 0.24% of the ED community. Damn! And I thought the ED galaxy made me feel small and insignifcant!! :p

Oops, just realised that 3554 is the number of pages, there are 88833 forum members. So that's about 6% of 1.5 million. Yay - I do matter after all! :p

There is also the problem where a handful of posters are responsible for the majority of posts.

Meaning that the "opinion" of the forums is mostly just that of maybe 100 active posters.

Some people refuse to acknowledge this because it disrupts the illusion that the small clique of posters here represents the True Will Of the People.

Fortunately math don't give a fig what people think. A self selected sample of 100 people is not a valid representation of a population of several million.

And no amount of denial will change that.

Damn. [blah]

P.S. you're dead right tho.

Lets get back on topic please.

Those that like the game to the left, those that don't to the right. Everyone else please take a seat on the fence in the middle.

Sorry ... I'm done now (and I'm still completely happy with the game).
 
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I understand people not being fan of 'viable minimum'. Problem is with huge game like ED it is hard to do otherwise.
Oh, then most of the criticism is pointless, of course. So you only need to make your game as "huge" as possible to negate a whole lot criticism? I know where you are going, but complexity shouldn't be used as an excuse for bad game design. It doesn't make sense, don't start making "huge" game in the first place, then. What is a game world worth if it consists to 99% of empty, non-interactive maps? Keep in mind we are talking about a game here and not a space simulation.
 
That's not a fact, that assumption.
Really? Do i have to explain how things work? The sells mean money. Every sell mean money. Every copy (no matter what copy it is) is money. Elite dangerous copy are cost money. Horizons pass are cost money. PS4 and XBOX versions are cost money. FD sells every single copy of this game in summary in about 2.4kk copys to realise all available source of income. Do i really need to explain it more? Every single copy of game in count. That is always work like this. Even the guy who buy 4 copy of game. Elite Dangerous + horizons x 2 for ability to use Multicrew in a "few computers" to gain "advantage" of 8 pips, is IN COUNT. And btw FD are not against it. Only even for it. It is even good that multicrew is so bad. Cause this guy could be really a pain in the "that place" for any normal legit player.

Consider FD have released two console versions and keep updating them. Consider FD predicted it will sell around 2 - 3M units (as later explained both ED and EDH are meant units) in 2017 financial year - year that will go on for at least six months.
It's a dream. Wake up. Who the hell predict this anyway? 2-3m units on PS4. Are you serious? Do you even believe into it yourself?

Cobra is one of these engines (which is exactly one in a market at this moment) that can work with a huge scale. Not just huge. But HUGE. It is not something that any engine today are possible to do with same ease as Cobra. It is unique. Tencent know it better than you or even me. Do you really want to argue with a 17kk of investment that Tencent put into FD because of Cobra Engine ability and the fact that only FD know how to work with this engine cause they work on it for 15 years?

Gameplay on forum is really good. 10/10
 
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Just wondering what people think about the game at the moment.
I paid 150$ (The the two 75$ betas)plus a few skins to support the devs and I honestly feel that they haven't lived up to anything close that could of been. So no, Im not. Not trying to start a flame war, just wondering what you guys think.


In a nutshell, no not really (no surprise there :) ). Too many issues to mention that irk me about ED in its current guise, and it seems to be sin on these boards to air any opinion that is not praiseing ED. There are so many areas in ED that need work (IMHO) and I really dont think FD have the cahones or manpower or the will to get the most out of ED which is a shame as I want to love it so bad but cant bear to log in due to sheer boredom.
 
There is no point in talking to Insane4un a lot of what he say make no logical sense, so it is best to ignore him when he starts talking about financials. Also we know that ED has a seperate team then the other franchises, but let him have his rant. I think it makes him feel better.
We know? And from where did we know it? Because they say so to you? Lol. They once say to you that after 1 year the horizons will be complete. What are you think now? After 2 years. And 2.4 is still not out actually. What we have now is 2.3.5 with a thargoids at best. How is your 2.4 Type 10? Do you even realise how much we will have to wait for it?
 
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As an aside I really find it bizarre when I see extremely negative reviews from players with dozens or even hundreds of hours in the game. If a piece of entertainment isn't clicking with you why beat your head against it? Lol.


I might be able to provide some insight.

The one thing I love about Elite Dangerous is the flight model. Everything else has either been implemented badly to a point where its not even worth the time investing anymore after a few thousand hours, sure I put the money forward, but can I honestly recommend to anyone I know or someone random on the internet, to buy this game right now? No I honestly can't, wait til further down the development path when everything gets more stable (otherwise understand the risk that comes with this game). So that might justify such a negative review. Especially when it seems like bug squashing most of all are on the back burner and still return regardless of the fixes.

The one issue however is that as soon as you voice an opinion, it turns into a jousting match about if its a personal problem "because bugs exist in all games" or if its the games problem. Thus, we don't talk about what fdev could do to fix it, nor could we provide insight around the issues themselves, we just exchange jabs as to who's right and who's wrong on the matter.
 
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I might be able to provide some insight.

The one thing I love about Elite Dangerous is the flight model. Everything else has either been implemented badly to a point where its not even worth the time investing anymore after a few thousand hours. So that might justify such a negative review. Especially when it seems like bug squashing most of all are on the back burner and still return regardless of the fixes.
Sometimes it really looks like they developing Elite in backwards..
 
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