I'm bored...

my answer to you is a 3-letter acronym:

BGS

or, background simulation -- the factions driven by CMDR actions. What Elite is often missing is a purpose. Pick a faction to support, and suddenly there is never enough time in the day to do what you want to do. And if you join a player group, this is even more engaging.

I am never bored in Elite. I play for hours and always ​run out of time...
 
If it's any consolation, I felt this way about 6 months ago. I stopped for 6 months and now I'm loving it again. Try that ;-p
 

Jenner

I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
Heh, no, what you described is EXACTLY you being burned out.

Don't sweat it. Take a break. There are thousands of games. Maybe after a week, month or even a year, you'll be back, full of energy and ideas, again.
For me it's usually a week. :)

o7

^. Pretty much. :)
 
my answer to you is a 3-letter acronym:

BGS

or, background simulation -- the factions driven by CMDR actions. What Elite is often missing is a purpose. Pick a faction to support, and suddenly there is never enough time in the day to do what you want to do. And if you join a player group, this is even more engaging.

I am never bored in Elite. I play for hours and always ​run out of time...

Agreed and well said, it is something I might get into once I do feel I am getting bored. But I haven't reached that stage yet and have come to the sad truth that I am playing this game all wrong. I don't have lofty goals, I don't want to own every ship, I don't want to sit there and bask at a multi-billion Credit balance. I often wonder if those that do set their sights that high, to have that Corvette or Cutter, and once they get them suddenly realise they had more fun flying their Cobra or ASP but since they finally got their big ship they have to use it. And how many were that focused in getting the Credits to buy these ships that the used every exploit, every trick listed to get there as quick as they can - and subsequently missed out on a lot of the low credit earning things that many of us enjoy.

My play style is rather eclectic and many would say boring. I do what I want, when I want to and how I want to. Lately I have been having fun in either my Courier or Vulture in a HIGHREZ (actually kind of role playing, will only take certain targets if the bounty is right, never go after those with low bounties or from certain Factions). But last night I decided I wanted a change so I did a quick check to see what mats I needed for something, booted up the System map and headed to a planet. Drove around for 3 hours or so, having the time of my life. Not actively search for what I was after but my aimless wanderings would come across them eventually. Had a wonderful time until I got stuck in a crater but that is a whole other story (and thread, yep even created a post on it). The thing is after all this time (just over 1,000 hrs) I am still finding new things to do and know there is a lot I haven't done - like a long exploration 'somewhere'. I may get around to doing some of these one day but currently just having FUN doing what I want locally.
 
Of course you are burned out.
If the only motivation you can find to keep playing a game is some form of progression rather than enjoying what you do to achieve that progression, you've reached the extent of what this game has to offer you.
Take a break until you feel you want to fly spaceships again.
 
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I've sat down numerous times over the last couple of weeks (since 2.4.02), pulled up the mission/pass screens, looked at the payouts, and basically thought "Whats the point?"... Basically just took my Oculus off and found something else to do.

I went from averaging probably 20 hrs a week (since last December) to nothing.... (Sometimes LOTS more)

No, I'm not burned out. I used to like to make credits to buy stuff and try new ships/weapons/modules/etc... I'ld still be playing if it paid well. Nerfing the pass missions was apparently the last straw for me...

So, I'm moving on. Back to Planetside2 for a while. I'll check back in after the next patch or two and see if anything has changed for the better.

Just sayin'

(Flame on!)

Enjoy Planetside 2! We'll be here when you come back ;-)

Fly Safe CMDR EvanEvery

o7
 
Ok, two things.

One, Rhea isn't dead. It's not as amazing as it once was, but you can still stack tons of missions into a conda, or a type 7 if you wish to save money.

Two....there's a place I've found, an outpost, has high paying cargo missions going next door especially if allied with that faction, which you do with all the Fed faction missions there, so you can rank up too. Not as good as the current Imp one that was on the forums recently, but it's the best way to get Fed rank. Where is it you ask? Where it's always been ;). If you figure it out you'll make loads, I just don't want to out right say it in case it gets nerfed. Also, bring a Python as its an outpost.

So you see, there's still ways to make the monies, even more so if you look yourself. You may even find money where you least expect.

Hope I've lifted the mood.
 
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I've gone thru the same thing. I totally get the OP's point.

It'a not the credits, I have over 500 million in petty cash. I can buy anything I want. I have the ships I want, modules... etc. I've been everywhere I want to go, and I see no merit in pressing "J" a zillion times to see another bunch of brown spheres... 8k+ kills, I've seen enough exploding ships. Triple Elite. Fed/Empire ranks. Generation ships ? You mean 6 or 8 scripted voice clips ? Been a miner. BH'd myself silly. Traded. Piracy holds no allure, you don't make money, which to me, is the whole point. Killing players for the sake of killing is just being an as... something.. unless it's consensual. I've shuffled enough whiny passengers around the bubble. Run errands for hundreds of minor functionaries in even more nameless systems, all convinced they're the reason for universe.

I log in every once in a while, check out the boards.. Was going to get into the whole Tharg thing.. then heard about nerfs, changes, etc... saw I couldn't "load for bear" and decided... "Meh.. wait and see".

I want something... MORE. A storyline.. a narrative. I thought maybe the whole Salome thing... or the Rift.. Raxxla.. But those seem to go nowhere. So.. why play ? If I really lived in the ED universe, it would be time to hang out at Jameson, eat, drink, wench, and generally live off my reserves until something struck my fancy or I ran out of credits.

I see my character now much like Robert Vaughn's character in the Magnificent Seven. But I'm not really hiding, per se, just too tired/bored to move.

I'm waiting for SOMETHING..
 
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I've said this before, but the answer to a lot of the frustrations with this game is a second account. The freedom to bounce between two different play styles (especially if one of them is exploration-based) without the administrative grind of moving assets around beforehand is invaluable.

Of course the problem is that people who have reached the end of their tether with a game are understandably reluctant to attempt a resolution that involves giving more money to the same company.

It's probably too late for the OP who sounds completely disenfranchised, but I would advise anyone who finds their engagement starting to wane, especially people who are "considering giving exploration a try", to think about a second account. If you try exploration on your primary and it doesn't grip you, you'll be stuck hours from anywhere with little incentive to head back. But if you try it on a secondary and you love it, you can keep heading into the beyond knowing the bubble is still just an alternative login away.
 
Heh, no, what you described is EXACTLY you being burned out.
Not exactly, since OP specifically mentions low paying missions. That is a thing which makes players lose interest in the game. If a game is not rewarding enough, the reason to play it fades extremely. And there are missions out there paying 0 credits, while providing literally useless materials* and some comme wake data.

*Yes, I know, they are worth some credits. But they are not making you pull something bigger as an Adder out of your hangar.
 
So, I'm moving on. Back to Planetside2 for a while. I'll check back in after the next patch or two and see if anything has changed for the better.

Just sayin'

(Flame on!)

lots of good money to be made around maia at the moment. Prof Palin regularly is offering adhoc missions over the coms for 5 - 15 million to get thargoid samples from the crash sites
there is a nice 3 system loop for delivering data and black box recovery..... the data missions individually are not much - up to 50k if allied, but when you have 20 of them, which if you keep doing the loop is likely, add up nicely. the black box missions pay decent (up to 1 million each)
and there is lots of good missions for the passenger mission folk too. which i think will pay more but my passenger ship is currently locked down so i cant use the damn thing)

of course good is subjective, i would say without the palin missions, i can get 5 mil an hr in an asp which seems a fair hrs pay for a fair hrs work in a very cheap ship, with the palin mission the cherry on top.
 

NecoMachina

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Heh, no, what you described is EXACTLY you being burned out.

Don't sweat it. Take a break. There are thousands of games. Maybe after a week, month or even a year, you'll be back, full of energy and ideas, again.
For me it's usually a week. :)

o7
Burned out isn't exactly the same thing as being unhappy with the changes. Burned out implies the game hasn't changed, you just got bored and need a break. But the game had alot of changes to passenger missions, which he apparently liked to do, and the changes lessened his enjoyment. It's a pretty significant difference.
 

sollisb

Banned
I've said this before, but the answer to a lot of the frustrations with this game is a second account. The freedom to bounce between two different play styles (especially if one of them is exploration-based) without the administrative grind of moving assets around beforehand is invaluable.

Of course the problem is that people who have reached the end of their tether with a game are understandably reluctant to attempt a resolution that involves giving more money to the same company.

It's probably too late for the OP who sounds completely disenfranchised, but I would advise anyone who finds their engagement starting to wane, especially people who are "considering giving exploration a try", to think about a second account. If you try exploration on your primary and it doesn't grip you, you'll be stuck hours from anywhere with little incentive to head back. But if you try it on a secondary and you love it, you can keep heading into the beyond knowing the bubble is still just an alternative login away.

^this.. 2nd account open up new worlds (excuse pun) of gameplay
 
Burned out isn't exactly the same thing as being unhappy with the changes. Burned out implies the game hasn't changed, you just got bored and need a break. But the game had alot of changes to passenger missions, which he apparently liked to do, and the changes lessened his enjoyment. It's a pretty significant difference.

Not really, that simply means the OP was burned out before the changes to payouts, it's just that the changes made it that much more obvious and harder for the OP to fire up the game.
 
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While everyone moans about the passenger nerf, I've been casually one-jumping average 30 mill a trip for the past week... That's what happens when someone pays a little bit of attention to the game instead of waiting for some youtube step by step tutorial to herd them to the moneys...

And I'm not even trying hard, just settled on the first place I found above average.

You obviously think you know way more than you actually do! (...and I'm also calling on the 30M one-jump. The new calculated game mechanics just don't support it for any endeavor with any size ship under any circumstances.)

One of my latest endeavors was to datamine the EDSM system database to find systems on the fringe of the bubble with relatively exclusive trading relationships with other nearby systems. I would then go out and explore each of my candidates to see which ones had a relatively good supply of exclusive trading/mission targets. I have found a few over the last couple of months. One of which was paying much more for pass missions than even Rhea for a single 14 LY hop. I also believe (at least based on EDSM data) that myself and one of my friends were the only CMDR's who knew about this system and were actively working it. So, um, "NO" - Not a YouTube follower...

So, thanks for your insight in declaring me just some YouTube follower. I know you know everything about everything and no one who was an "active" player could possibly ever get bored with "real" gameplay!

I was enjoying the game right up to the pass nerf. Now the new work/credit ratio just isn't fun for me anymore. This isn't burn out - that would happen regardless. This is specifically because the game has changed to the point where the things that I enjoyed seem too much like work now...
 
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You obviously think you know way more than you actually do! (...and I'm also calling on the 30M one-jump. The new calculated game mechanics just don't support it for any endeavor with any size ship under any circumstances.)

You're datamining the wrong parameters.

I'll just leave you a breadcrumb (you're free to say it's photoshopped):

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Anyway if you don't believe me, I guess I will just have to learn how to live with that. :D
 
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You obviously think you know way more than you actually do! (...and I'm also calling on the 30M one-jump. The new calculated game mechanics just don't support it for any endeavor with any size ship under any circumstances.)

One of my latest endeavors was to datamine the EDSM system database to find systems on the fringe of the bubble with relatively exclusive trading relationships with other nearby systems. I would then go out and explore each of my candidates to see which ones had a relatively good supply of exclusive trading/mission targets. I have found a few over the last couple of months. One of which was paying much more for pass missions than even Rhea for a single 14 LY hop. I also believe (at least based on EDSM data) that myself and one of my friends were the only CMDR's who knew about this system and were actively working it. So, um, "NO" - Not a YouTube follower...

So, thanks for your insight in declaring me just some YouTube follower. I know you know everything about everything and no one who was an "active" player could possibly ever get bored with "real" gameplay!

I was enjoying the game right up to the pass nerf. Now the new work/credit ratio just isn't fun for me anymore. This isn't burn out - that would happen regardless. This is specifically because the game has changed to the point where the things that I enjoyed seem too much like work now...

Out of curiosity what kind of profit per HR are you hoping for and in what ship?
 
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