PvP Pity,AA cant handle their own Eravate

Ziggy Stardust

Ziggy Stardust
These type of player groups are bad enough as it is, but it's when they start having a public willy waving contest you really can appreciate the way it brings out the 8 year old in people.

I have known kindergartens with more eloquent discourse.
 

ALGOMATIC

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Ziggy Stardust said:
These type of player groups are bad enough as it is, but it's when they start having a public willy waving contest you really can appreciate the way it brings out the 8 year old in people.

I have known kindergartens with more eloquent discourse.
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PvP is horrible, almost like RL murder. You shouldn't be in this forum section for your own safety.
Btw we need some more pics of asps. I forgot how a ringed planet looks like.
 

ryan_m

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amysteriousstranger said:
Well the the 4v4 wasn’t even a 4v4 it was mostly 4 of you vs 2 or 3 of us, pretty much a gank

You also forgot to mention that I beat Eent tredison in a 1v1 and I also killed deathdingo at the station

And your really blaming people for using crimes on in a station when you station gank, have infiltrated Mobius and broke their rules, heat meta in the past, the list goes on

Its kinda hilarious that you fight with no respect or honour( which doesn’t bother me at all, I expect it) and yet demand people to use respect and honour when fighting you (crimes was off in my 1v1s, if your gonna gank me then expect it and stop complaining about it)

Not sure if I’m the FAS your talking about as it was not a 1v1 when i had crimes on you were ganking me , but the first time I died I used pack hounds which I’d never used before near a station a didn’t know how bad that would turn out, my mistake since I hit the station as that was what killed me

The second time I jumped in my courier and died because you guys shot me (my intention) to get you wanted, I then reapawned and took out deathdingo as he was near the slot and now wanted (you were there when it happened so can’t really claim you didn’t know about it)

The only other time I died was because my landing pad was blocked by an NPC sitting on it so I gave up and sat there since you were blocking the exit

Plus the countless times I torped you guys and the countless times 8 of
you couldn’t kill me at the station, plus I know at least one of you (FAS I think) got killed by the station when they got to close, a fight which I also contributed to by rail sniping their drives out before they could get out of range

Sure I lost against Yamato in a 1v1 but I made up for it in the next fight when I blew out Eent’s canopy and he blew up, he was probably the only one of you with any respect

Its not the slaughter your making out when you actually tell the truth, since you did suffer casualties

I can’t comment on any thing I wasn’t there for though so I don’t know about the rest

I honestly don’t know who your trying to convince, I know it wasn’t a slaughter, I put up a decent fight most of the time and I was on my own, I know you took casualties and if anything from my point of view and my kill death ratio it was fairly equal, slightly in your favour Because you had greater numbers and you can’t really dodge 6+ ships trying to ram you 100% of the time
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I think it's very telling that you're sitting here defending yourself, but not your group as a whole. I know for a fact that AA is in disarray right now, with infighting about the future of the group because of how completely they failed to do the one thing they committed to: defending Eravate. AA has been dunked on consistently for almost 2 weeks now, day in and day out. It really is sad to see AA claiming that torping someone is a victory.

How far you have fallen...
 

Roybe

Roybe
Blockades don't work...when you add instancing issues, router configurations, etc...who knows what is going on!

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amysteriousstranger

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ryan_m said:
I think it's very telling that you're sitting here defending yourself, but not your group as a whole. I know for a fact that AA is in disarray right now, with infighting about the future of the group because of how completely they failed to do the one thing they committed to: defending Eravate. AA has been dunked on consistently for almost 2 weeks now, day in and day out. It really is sad to see AA claiming that torping someone is a victory.

How far you have fallen...
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I wouldn’t know much about any infighting, when I’ve been on I’ve not witnessed anything myself

I know we’ve been focusing on training new recruits recently, that’s as much info as I know, as an apprentice I’m not really told anything of importance

Well torping someone is as much a victory as station ramming someone to death, using heat meta missiles when they were a thing, ganking sidewinders, the list of things you’ve done is endless, it’s a dirty tactic which is as viable as any within the game rules and no worse than anything you do

Like when you guys kill a noob, you call it a victory and laugh about it

Lets face it you guys fight dirty half the time anyway, I’ll honour the crimes off in a fair fight and won’t log off in combat, but anything else goes

Im also going to point out I was in a wing against you guys some time ago when engineers was fairly new and got torped myself then

If i Torp you, and you run, that’s you retreating, it’s still a victory no matter how small, besides you’ll notice I only tried it on the cutter and slow ships that were sitting there outside the station which they should have known something like that would happen, after that I switched the normal weapons

They were sitting there all smug, not moving, no point defence, we both know if I had been sitting in a cutter with no point defence you would have got someone with torpedoes to kill me


I mean come on, think about what you guys do, do you really expect anyone to fight fair?
 
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Shinji Ikari

Shinji Ikari
ryan_m said:
I think it's very telling that you're sitting here defending yourself, but not your group as a whole. I know for a fact that AA is in disarray right now, with infighting about the future of the group because of how completely they failed to do the one thing they committed to: defending Eravate. AA has been dunked on consistently for almost 2 weeks now, day in and day out. It really is sad to see AA claiming that torping someone is a victory.

How far you have fallen...
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Yawww, Im dying waiting here to see some proof of that.
 

ALGOMATIC

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Kurama 1100 said:
Yawww, Im dying waiting here to see some proof of that.
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To defend AA a bit, its much easier to be a murderer in this game than to be the good guy, there are so many loopholes, its pretty much impossible to defend an entire system properly. I mean all you need to do is murder few winders in Eravate, ram some others near the station, post videos and it will be sort of a victory while making the defenders look bad.
 

ryan_m

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Kurama 1100 said:
Yawww, Im dying waiting here to see some proof of that.
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This is a screenshot from the Nomads discord of BreakfastMelon discussing the issues they're having, but that's only the public side of it. We have spies everywhere, and AA is having legitimate infighting about the future of the PvP side of the group. Bazinga has effectively left AA, and I wouldn't be surprised at all to see more members leaving within the next week or so.

I predict that very soon, AA will not be able to field a full wing of competent PvPers at CGs or Eravate.
 

Imo

Imo
To make the starter sector a safe place for new pilots we should probably first get rid of crappies crappada or what their name was, can't remember exactly. :D
 

ryan_m

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ALGOMATIC said:
To defend AA a bit, its much easier to be a murderer in this game than to be the good guy, there are so many loopholes, its pretty much impossible to defend an entire system properly. I mean all you need to do is murder few winders in Eravate, ram some others near the station, post videos and it will be sort of a victory while making the defenders look bad.
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Agreed, but the victory we're claiming here isn't dusting sideys and stuff like that. It's the complete dunking of AA in their home system. We've had wing fights pretty consistently for 2 weeks now, and AA barely shows up anymore. Even at the beginning, they were getting absolutely worked by what was essentially a pick-up group of Nomads and SDC.

The problem with AA is that they recruit directly from Mobius, and everyone is told they can help in PvP, but very few are actually capable of doing so. Everyone knows the skill gap that exists between PvE and PvP when we're talking middle-of-the-road pilots, not even taking into account the skill gap between beginner PvPers and SDC/Nomads. Experienced AA members are being forced to train up literal newbies and wing with them in these fights, and there aren't enough high-level pilots to hide the new guys. Imagine going into a 4v4 against SDC and half your wing is flying gimballed vettes and this is their 3rd PvP fight.

They just don't have enough good PvPers anymore to stand a chance against us.
 

amysteriousstranger

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ryan_m said:
This is a screenshot from the Nomads discord of BreakfastMelon discussing the issues they're having, but that's only the public side of it. We have spies everywhere, and AA is having legitimate infighting about the future of the PvP side of the group. Bazinga has effectively left AA, and I wouldn't be surprised at all to see more members leaving within the next week or so.

I predict that very soon, AA will not be able to field a full wing of competent PvPers at CGs or Eravate.
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All that says is that we are training new people to get back to how we were which is what we have been doing, it’s going to take more than that to convince anyone, I mean we are taking time to improve our problems that any group has

ryan_m said:
The problem with AA is that they recruit directly from Mobius, .
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That just isn’t true, it’s possible we may have some people from there, but everyone since i joined we’re just people who either sought us out in eravate in open or we met at community goals and they were defending there

The reason we don’t have so many of the old players is because people move on, play other games and do other things, not because of any other reason you like to make up

It happens, I seriously doubt SDC will still be playing in 5 years, most of you will be in another game doing the same stuff as you do here, for some members of AA it’s been 2 years or more, just time to move on
 
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Ziggy Stardust

Ziggy Stardust
ryan_m said:
The problem with AA is that they recruit directly from Mobius, and everyone is told they can help in PvP, but very few are actually capable of doing so. Everyone knows the skill gap that exists between PvE and PvP when we're talking middle-of-the-road pilots, not even taking into account the skill gap between beginner PvPers and SDC/Nomads. Experienced AA members are being forced to train up literal newbies and wing with them in these fights, and there aren't enough high-level pilots to hide the new guys. Imagine going into a 4v4 against SDC and half your wing is flying gimballed vettes and this is their 3rd PvP fight.

They just don't have enough good PvPers anymore to stand a chance against us.
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So give em a break and some time and let them funnel some more PvEers into PvP? That's a good thing right?

By the way .... why are you in Erevate?
 

ryan_m

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amysteriousstranger said:
All that says is that we are training new people to get back to how we were which is what we have been doing, it’s going to take more than that to convince anyone, I mean we are taking time to improve our problems that any group has



That just isn’t true, it’s possible we may have some people from there, but everyone since i joined we’re just people who either sought us out in eravate in open or we met at community goals and they were defending there

The reason we don’t have so many of the old players is because people move on, play other games and do other things, not because of any other reason you like to make up
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Dude, do you think I don't have friends in AA that tell me what's going on? Think about this: you just may not be invited to the conversations that are being had.

Ziggy Stardust said:
So give em a break and some time and let them funnel some more PvEers into PvP? That's a good thing right?

By the way .... why are you in Erevate?
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To expose AA for what they are: pretend PvPers.

amysteriousstranger said:
They are killing sidewinders mostly and blocking entrance to the station
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Wrong, wrong, wrong.
 
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