Yeah. I'm not quite sure, but I do know that combat rank is used when matched up against NPCs and how much killing an NPC affects your own combat rank upgrade. At least that's what I read months ago.
Why the hate for playing in open?
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I’ve not once been killed by a real player in Open. Not because I’m a great combat pilot, I’m certainly not. I am currently at 23% Expert, but still finding it hard to fight at times. I have been killed many times but by NPCs. I think the reason why I haven’t been killed, or even attacked, by a real player is simply because the perceived threat is not there, or at least is so minuscule when compared to the vastness of the game’s universe, and it’s comparatively small player base compared with PC, that the chances of happening upon a griefer is si small.
I did get pulled out of SC once by a kid trying out his indictor, or whatever it’s called, but he scanned me and when he saw I had no cargo he just left. Not sure why people seem to always assume that griefers are kids >.<. Perhaps some are, but like most of the adult player base, most kids just want to play the game and not bother anybody else.
I say each to his own. If I get killed by a griefer who so happens to be, say, a 13-year-old boy, then I’m not going to be upset by the fact that a kid beat me. I think that if I flew around in open being frightened of any hollow square/triangle I see, then it simply wouldn’t be worth my time. However, if others prefer to play in private or solo, then again that’s up to them. We all have our preferred methods and roles of playing. Personally I find Open more exciting. A sense of suspense.
I did get pulled out of SC once by a kid trying out his indictor, or whatever it’s called, but he scanned me and when he saw I had no cargo he just left. Not sure why people seem to always assume that griefers are kids >.<. Perhaps some are, but like most of the adult player base, most kids just want to play the game and not bother anybody else.
I say each to his own. If I get killed by a griefer who so happens to be, say, a 13-year-old boy, then I’m not going to be upset by the fact that a kid beat me. I think that if I flew around in open being frightened of any hollow square/triangle I see, then it simply wouldn’t be worth my time. However, if others prefer to play in private or solo, then again that’s up to them. We all have our preferred methods and roles of playing. Personally I find Open more exciting. A sense of suspense.
I have another thought to throw into the pot of ideas. I live rural America, but recently I had to visit the big city to take my wife to the airport. I was reminded just how much I hate congestion and traffic and waiting at 100 red lights to get from point A to point B.
I enjoy participating in CGs, but I really don't do it for the "community" side of things except to do my part to raise that little tier bar. I hate congested space stations and orbitals just as much as I hate city highways and parking lots. I almost always do CGs in Solo mode - especially bounty hunting CGs, because local RES are way "over-fished" in Open. I can make just as many credits 'winging up' with security forces in a hi-res as I can winging with other players in a crowded haz-res, and I tend to survive a lot longer (I've lost more ships in multiplayer wings than to anything else).
Ironically, I play in Open when I'm least likely to encounter another player (like when exploring), because if I do encounter another player, it truly is a cool and unique experience!
I enjoy participating in CGs, but I really don't do it for the "community" side of things except to do my part to raise that little tier bar. I hate congested space stations and orbitals just as much as I hate city highways and parking lots. I almost always do CGs in Solo mode - especially bounty hunting CGs, because local RES are way "over-fished" in Open. I can make just as many credits 'winging up' with security forces in a hi-res as I can winging with other players in a crowded haz-res, and I tend to survive a lot longer (I've lost more ships in multiplayer wings than to anything else).
Ironically, I play in Open when I'm least likely to encounter another player (like when exploring), because if I do encounter another player, it truly is a cool and unique experience!
Does anyone know the real idenity of the apprently most famouse griefer namely "Comd Harry Porter". And what ever happened to him/her/it after the noted issue over the surmise of his supposed wing mate Solome or how ever you spell it. Is Harry still active and on which platform. I've not heard a thing in regards to him since the altercation took place just prior to the ps4 release. It might be a stretch, but perhaps it was the "David" and with the launching of ps4 just is too busy tending his flock to go on line and do any significant griefing as he had prior to launch.
I am using the "David" because unlike the mods here, he'll probably never read it thus won't delete me from here. LOL
I am using the "David" because unlike the mods here, he'll probably never read it thus won't delete me from here. LOL
I've seen HP on the forum today, so he's not gone.
The Salome story was that Salome is a book character and there was an event where she was going to fly, in game, from point a to b, and a lot of players joined to protect her. HP managed to kill her. Some people took it very hard, but apparently (as I have learned recently), there are players who enjoyed the event and thought the killing of Salome by HP was the greatest game experience in 20 years. Go figure.
To me, it's more of starting a great TV show and the main character is killed in the first episode and the whole series is shut down. But, apparently, people loved it. Personally, I think it was stupid. Some players even think this event should attract people into playing Open. I can't see how.
There are FAR more people in Open than Private groups. The issue is the P2P networking that Frontier adopted.
I'm in New Zealand, so I only ever get put into instances with NZ or Australian players due to latency. This combined with time zones makes Open a barren wasteland for me.
Alas, I still exclusively play in Open. The people on the forums are a small fraction of the player base.
You will always have people say "Open is a gank fest of players killing weak ships" however in my 1000+ hours in open, I have never seen this happen more than 5 times.
I'm in New Zealand, so I only ever get put into instances with NZ or Australian players due to latency. This combined with time zones makes Open a barren wasteland for me.
Alas, I still exclusively play in Open. The people on the forums are a small fraction of the player base.
You will always have people say "Open is a gank fest of players killing weak ships" however in my 1000+ hours in open, I have never seen this happen more than 5 times.
I wasn't stating my personal likes. I was pointing out what I have seen to be the case over the years (since beta 2.4) I have been playing.
People like different things, and they don't like being called out on it. It's evident every time someone starts a Solo/PvP/whatever thread, and the constant sniping back and forth with the inevitable cimments of "Mobious", not wanting to be "someone elses content", and open players desperately trying to convince said Solo/Group players to join open, and throwing in a few nasty snipes of their own.
My personal viewpoint is that I'm an Open tragic. I dreamed of a world in which I could play with'against a bunch of friend, and strangers, too, and now, 28 years later, it's real, and it would simply be denying myself of my own childhood dream for this game to not play it as such, for the good and bad.
That's my opinion, though, and not everyone thinks that way.I'm glad ED can provide a platform in which people can enjoy the game in "their own" way.
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Keep in mind, that event was the climax of a 2 book series. Not the "first episode" by any stretch.
Now, some say, that the author had secretly wanted the character dead, and that the pilot controlling Salomé intentionally did a bad job at being a pilot.
All I know is, it went down as it did, and it was an entertaining enough event, and a good read as well. Sadly, I think the negativity weighed a bit too heavily on the author, and my have put the brakes on any further storytelling on his part.
Regardless, it was what it was, and I'd suggest to anyone that has not yet read the books, to do so.
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Why do you think so? There was recently some survey on that, and while Open is bigger than PG or Solo, it is smaller than these two modes combined. So FAR may be an overstatement.
I have played about 250 hours on the ps4, and until recently I always chose open, seldom seeing other players but happy when I did.
That changed when I was bounced (in Rhea) and I found out that it's impossible to evade a PvP interdiction. Despite nailing the escape vector in my nimble ship for almost the entire interdiction, I was still required to submit, and my unarmed dbx lasted about 10 seconds against the corvette responsible. In hindsight my naive lack of situational and tactical awareness didnt help, but it seems weak ships have almost no defence against this practice. I went back for another look and was rapidly attacked again, at which point I switched modes and havent been back.
Not yet anyway, if I can 'git gud' and engineer a sleeper ship to even things up it would be fun to fly into harms way in open again.
That changed when I was bounced (in Rhea) and I found out that it's impossible to evade a PvP interdiction. Despite nailing the escape vector in my nimble ship for almost the entire interdiction, I was still required to submit, and my unarmed dbx lasted about 10 seconds against the corvette responsible. In hindsight my naive lack of situational and tactical awareness didnt help, but it seems weak ships have almost no defence against this practice. I went back for another look and was rapidly attacked again, at which point I switched modes and havent been back.
Not yet anyway, if I can 'git gud' and engineer a sleeper ship to even things up it would be fun to fly into harms way in open again.
Because Frontier themselves said that even Mobius is but a fraction of the Open playerbase.
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I hate to point this out but technically nine tenths is a fraction...three quarters is a fraction...ye see where this is going right? What was the actual fraction that frontier specified?
They didnt and that was an intentionally vague comment because frontier never release actual figures and without the actual quote, yer just guessing. Then again, if open is so healthy and populated, why are there comments about it being a barren wasteland? Why are they in the forums day in day out complaining about solo and PG, and not just this forum, but all over that saltpit reddit too.
Anyway, why would it matter in the first place? Mobius isnt a mode, its a PG...not even the only PG just the biggest and best known so even were it truly a smaller fraction, that still wouldnt come as a huge surprise. But add up all the PG and then all those who play solo mode, and lets not forget that many in mobius switch between modes regularly depending on the situation...easier to manipulate the bgs in solo and pg where no amount of player hostility will have the slightest effect. Fer many, thats a big part of the appeal as trade ships dont stand a chance against combat ships and even multi purpose builds fer pve fail miserably against engineered death machines.
You capture videos and screenshots, livestream etc with the button opposite to the Options button, the Share button (to the top left of the touch pad).
Particularly with videos and screenshots, while you CAN set them to upload directly from gameplay, but generally you'll only save most things to edit and upload later, outside of gameplay.
Wherever you wish to upload a video, screenshot or live content, you need an account with a supported third party website, such as Youtube for videos, Twitter for screenshots, Twitch for livestreams etc to post your content to, which then has to be linked with your PSN account.
I've personally only posted videos to Youtube and while you can run them through the PS Store's free programme, Share Factory to add intros and outros, record voiceovers and set the system to upload videos at the native 1080p quality of the original captured video, but aside from once testing it, i only do direct uploads with the share button's regular upload process at its' standard 720p upload quality now, for its' slightly quicker upload speed and less fuss.
Though at the very least i still trim the footage of whatever i'm posting, as assuming you've been playing the particular game you're capturing long enough, haven't changed the setting, come across a section of the game which is blocked from capturing, such as a late game cutscenes in certain games (which is noted on screen) or captured another video in the last few minutes, by default the system captures 15 minutes of up to 700mb of footage, each time the capture video option is selected and if your internet is like most peoples' (unless you have synchronised upload and download speed), your upload speed i likely a LOT slower than your download speed, so it's best to upload the shortest videos possible...
.(Not that file size really matters for screenshots.)
(For example while my download speed is normally in the 14-16mb range and i can download a gig of data in ten minutes or less and six or more gigs in an hour, my upload speed is in the kilobyte range, taking ten to twelve minutes to upload the around 50mb, 1 minute videos i normally upload - the handful of times i've uploaded a ten minute or so video, they took one and half to two hours to upload!
.)So while for videos i know Youtube works very well, even if you don't have an account with one of the required hosting sites, when you capture whatever you want to upload it's stored on the PS4's harddrive 'til you've done whatever you intend to do with it and manually delete it (if you ever do).
Selecting to share a particular thing will give you a list of that filetypes' supported websites, if you don't have an account with any of them, you MAY be able to create one on your PS4 or you may have to do so on a PC then return to your PS4 once you have one - it takes less than a minute to see if you can upload your particular thing to a particular site.
Once you have a linked third party account (and assuming Sony's servers aren't acting up making you relink your third party account multiple times and failing to go any further, which happens very rarely, though if it does happen, it normally fixes itself in a hour or less as if nothing was every wrong), you can upload as much as you like to it...
.Lastly, once whatever you wanted to upload is on your desired third party site, you can come on here and link such content in threads on this site and others
.(Or in places like your signature etc.)
(If you, like me post several videos from the likes of Fifa one after the other, they'll upload one after the other... though as said, they'll likely take a while to upload, in which time you can't turn off your system without it interrupting the process, so it's best to only upload things when you've plenty of free time
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I'm only interested in playing in Open when i have the toughest ship in the game, whether a Corvette, other new ship or a capital ship if Frontier ever let's us fly them (by the time i can afford it), armed and tanked to the teeth, in which i'll fly around policing the known Universe to keep it safe from pirates, blasting away any that have to temerity to try to pirate me or anyone else i see...
.So a succesful for profit company states a supposed fact without actual numbers, and it's the truth. No company in the world would deliberately give numbers away that would put them behind some other company. Hence they always like polititicians give open ended answer's which shut up the vast majority of lemmings.
At any rate, even if they (Mobius) only had 1/10th of 1%. It still doesn't take away the fact that FDev has spent supposed months trying to come up with a silution in regards to the deliberate destuction of ships for no apparent reason but kicks and giggles by griefers which has become a generical term to fit all cases, that Mobius has had since their conception in the form one one short, 5 worded, to the point sentence. In which a first time, first day young kindergartner can understand. "Don't Spoil Another Player's Game."
Sure, but for those who didn't read the books, it was a very short event of nothing. Cool, some famous person from some books are going to fly through space... oh, dead... ok.
Wow. That's messed up. Maybe HP was hired to kill her as well?
Well, I still have a hard time seeing this single one time event that required not only to have read a couple of books, time the event, spend one hour in open in the wrong instance (or if lucky in the same), and then it's just over really is a good argument to why people should stop playing Solo and turn to Open. Unless, of course, this wasn't a single event but something ongoing, repeated, where more chances to participate was offered, and such. Anyone why played Solo every hour of the day could have joined then in open for 1 hour and then gone back to solo and never looked back. So it's really not a good argument to why people should play open, again, unless this was something that would continue to be available.
Perhaps that's another kind of Buckyball racing. Someone arranging a "mysterious delivery" from point a to b, and people sign up to protect, and other people try to infiltrate. Then perhaps it would be more interesting, but the game engine doesn't have to change for this happen. This is up to the player community to arrange then. Perhaps some of the famous griefers could be arranging it?
I'm planning to, but I'm not sure reading the books would make me play in Open more...?
The only thing the Salome event taught me was that you get more from watching the Youtube than participating.
The way I still see it is that Open is just a form of a higher difficulty level. Solo is easy mode. PG is nice PvE mode. Open is bad-a** mode.
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No one hates you. Hate the haters.
Thanks,Once i figure out the share button i'll try and take some.Im not so much computer illiterate as dsylexic.
out of the same interest,i was running the bead between oak and oracle at the same time,and got into an epic interdiction scenario that seemed to last last for 10 or more minutes.later on i got involved with the alien probe,and we played together for a while.sounded like a bamboo flute,but kept drifting in and out. pings from the data scanner to reply.
Finally overcooked it on the approach and dinged it to destruction.
Will try again tomorrow.so if you see a dbs name of Thistledown,give a hail.
@myrm hi.pretty much the same.full open.i pretty much don't run ordnance.and it is empty for the most part.before last night i had no new contacts since 6 october.Griefers and gankers never really bothered me that much as i can usually out run whatever is coming after me.heh.i know,famous last words.
I play in open almost all the time. Almost... when I need to land my ship and just grind things (Davs Hope, orrere etc) I don't want to run back to my ship after I recall it just to dump 2 items. Twice I have been shot while my ship was parked and I was in my SRV, yes im dumb for the second one lol.
I do not go to PG or solo for the Palin missions to the scout as it really adds to the risk when I know there are "griefers" nearby, and its only 4 items, and I have met lots of great CMDRs at this location in open. There were people policing the area, trying to protect others and hunt down those trying to pirate or murder. That to me is good fun.
I don't fly without rebuy so I wont lose my ship, but solo or pg is good to help new players learn and for winging up (pg)
I do not go to PG or solo for the Palin missions to the scout as it really adds to the risk when I know there are "griefers" nearby, and its only 4 items, and I have met lots of great CMDRs at this location in open. There were people policing the area, trying to protect others and hunt down those trying to pirate or murder. That to me is good fun.
I don't fly without rebuy so I wont lose my ship, but solo or pg is good to help new players learn and for winging up (pg)
Cmdr Harry Potter has gone real quiet of late. But yes he IS hated not because he plays in open but because he is a complete %$^&
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