Hardware & Technical GTX 1080 or 1080ti for the Rift

Tomkin

Tomkin
Hi there,
today i running a AS-Rock Z77Pro4-m with a I7-3770 OC to 4.2 GHZ, 16GB RAM and a Zotac GTX1070.

Settings in the Rift set to Medium ,SSAA 1,5 and Sampling in the Rift to 2.0.
All other settings give me stutter and Framedrops.

Anyone out there who owns a similar Rig with an 1080 or 1080ti ?
Is there a Chance my Rig will perform better IN ED VR with one of the mentioned Cards?
I would like a better Quality with good Framerates.

I dont want to burn €500,-- for only 3 Frames more.

Regards

Tomkin
 

jasonbarron

jasonbarron
The 1080 ti is better at everything, not sure by how much than the plain 1080 though. Keep in mind that when you upgrade your card it's also about the future of your system, too.
 

StiTch

StiTch
If you have a 1070 at present, I think you might find yourself mildly underwhelmed by improvements provided by either, but I certainly don't think it's worth spending for the upgrade from 1070 to 1080. A 1070 is already reasonable; if you're going in for the penny, may as well go in for the pound.
 

jasonbarron

jasonbarron
StiTch said:
If you have a 1070 at present, I think you might find yourself mildly underwhelmed by improvements provided by either, but I certainly don't think it's worth spending for the upgrade from 1070 to 1080. A 1070 is already reasonable; if you're going in for the penny, may as well go in for the pound.
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What card are you gaming with, StiTch? I recently upgraded from a GTX 980 to the 1080 ti and I'm super happy so far. Being able to go into all my games' settings and dial everything to 11 these last few days has been like Christmas early.
 

StiTch

StiTch
jasonbarron said:
What card are you gaming with, StiTch? I recently upgraded from a GTX 980 to the 1080 ti and I'm super happy so far. Being able to go into all my games' settings and dial everything to 11 these last few days has been like Christmas early.
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Funny you should say that, I'm on a 980ti.

I've been thinking about making the same jump, but my bestie bought one and I was a little underwhelmed. His rig isn't constructed as a true gaming PC though - it is a half tower that happens to let everything squash in - and I wanted to try one in a proper gaming system before I pull the plug.

I was probably a little underwhelmed in response to a number of posters claiming they could have every setting under the sun at max, and when I raised a thread asking for feedback on the 1080ti, was informed that very much isn't the case.

Trouble is double that money and I can get myself the damn motorbike I want lol.
 
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Tomkin

Tomkin
THX for your Reply.

My hope was that there is somebody wit a similar rig who went from 1070 to 1080(ti) and could give some feedback.

By the way, i'm always underwhelmed, cause the graphics in those trailers for ED, FO4 or other games look often so good like a movie.

The Game itself looks mostly ....just like a Game....

OK, comparing my Forst RIG (EGA Graphics in 1987) to VGA, EVGA and first DFX Add on Cards the 1080ti could be a real improvement.

But to be serious, is a I7 3770 Running on 4.2 GHz (all cores) fast enough for a 1080ti ?

Regards

Thomas
 

jasonbarron

jasonbarron
StiTch said:
Funny you should say that, I'm on a 980ti.

I've been thinking about making the same jump, but my bestie bought one and I was a little underwhelmed. His rig isn't constructed as a true gaming PC though - it is a half tower that happens to let everything squash in - and I wanted to try one in a proper gaming system before I pull the plug.

I was probably a little underwhelmed in response to a number of posters claiming they could have every setting under the sun at max, and when I raised a thread asking for feedback on the 1080ti, was informed that very much isn't the case.

Trouble is double that money and I can get myself the damn motorbike I want lol.
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For me the difference is massive. Stepping up from the GTX 980 (not ti, just plain) to an Asus Rog Strix 1080 ti allows me to turn on all the bells and whistles like hair & particle effects and in graphically intense games such as Rise of the Tomb Raider or Batman Arkham Knight I really notice the difference. Plus, the card is only using around a third of it's available 11g of VRAM. Of course I have it plugged into a state of art mobo and teamed with a cpu endowed with near god like computing capabilities, so the entire system just crunches up the games like rice krispies.
 

Morbad

Morbad
As odd as it may seem for a ~700 dollar part, the 1080 ti is one of the best GPU values around. It costs 30-35% more than a 1080, but it's also 30-35% faster than the 1080. That sort of flat performance for dollar progression at the high-end is almost unheard of.

Elite: Dangerous also isn't especially CPU limited; there are two main render threads and a variety of less demanding worker threads. Any fast quad core is likely to prevent the CPU from being the limiting factor at any settings you'd use on a high-end GPU. I have systems, admittedly ones that were high-end for their time, that are pushing 8 years old that won't bottleneck ED with a 1080 ti.

With my modest 5820K or 6800K, I even have the CPU cycles to spare to encode 1440p60 video at QP 15 in software x264 while playing...though I usually find NVENC more optimal for recording (as opposed to streaming).
 

StiTch

StiTch
jasonbarron said:
For me the difference is massive. Stepping up from the GTX 980 (not ti, just plain) to an Asus Rog Strix 1080 ti allows me to turn on all the bells and whistles like hair & particle effects and in graphically intense games such as Rise of the Tomb Raider or Batman Arkham Knight I really notice the difference. Plus, the card is only using around a third of it's available 11g of VRAM. Of course I have it plugged into a state of art mobo and teamed with a cpu endowed with near god like computing capabilities, so the entire system just crunches up the games like rice krispies.
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Ah goddamn it, I'm holding my wallet really tightly, but no matter what I do...ouch, I just faceplanted the keyboard and opened Scan.co.uk...would you look at that, my nose accidentally clicked on the GPU section...just gonna prop myself up now and save this embarrassment...oh no, my hand pushed against the keyboard and added something to cart...

I wasn't gonna take the plunge but goddamn it Jason, you have a real way of working me up.
 
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Dad Rock

Dad Rock
I have a Rift with a 1080 Ti. Would be happy to send you a screenshot of my EDProfile settings when I'm back home tonight.

o7
 

jasonbarron

jasonbarron
StiTch said:
Ah goddamn it, I'm holding my wallet really tightly, but no matter what I do...ouch, I just faceplanted the keyboard and opened Scan.co.uk...would you look at that, my nose accidentally clicked on the GPU section...just gonna prop myself up now and save this embarrassment...oh no, my hand pushed against the keyboard and added something to cart...

I wasn't gonna take the plunge but goddamn it Jason, you have a real way of working me up.
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Haha, good to hear! You won't regret it...unless you don't have a big enough case to fit it in. Just remember, the 1080 ti is sort of the John Holmes of the gpu world and you definitely need a motherboard & case that can take what it has to give, if you know what I'm saying.
 

StiTch

StiTch
jasonbarron said:
Haha, good to hear! You won't regret it...unless you don't have a big enough case to fit it in. Just remember, the 1080 ti is sort of the John Holmes of the gpu world and you definitely need a motherboard & case that can take what it has to give, if you know what I'm saying.
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Don't worry mate, I've got a proper tower, though it could do with some maintenance.

Oh, and my computer is a good size too.
 
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dape

dape
ED in VR seems CPU intensive. There is a long discussion about that in the VR Sub Forum. My 7700K@4.8 reaches 80 to 85% utilization in VR around and in stations. Playing 2D it hovers around 35%

You may run into CPU throtteling when pairing an I7 3770 with a 1080TI in VR
 

znôrt

znôrt
jasonbarron said:
GTX 980 to the 1080 ti
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i went from 980ti to 1080ti and even there noticed quite an improvement. gpu is crucial for vr, the more the better, simple as that.

now, economically, i'm not so sure. i got the 1080ti a while ago. i'm guessing nvidia will deploy new cards soon, making current cards cheaper, so waiting a bit could make sense.

@op, if it is for vr and you need to upgrade now, just get the best you can get.
 

Zeeman

Zeeman
Why is this even a question? 1080Ti easily... If you have the money.

I run two identical rigs - except for the GPU. 6700K, 4GB 3200MHz memory, Asus Gene VIII, 256GB SSD NVME (960 Evo), Corsair Air 240 case, and Noctua NH-U9S coolers (with dual fans), with one rig running a Gigabyte GTX1080 G1 gaming, and the other an EVGA 1080Ti SC2.

Not really worth it for the Ti for non VR - yeah, it's nice for full settings around stations, and perhaps ripping around on a planet, but not really that much better. For VR... All settings are go, it really helps.

NO OC on either, for the record (yet). I'm looking at a water cooling kit for the SC 2 and 6700K from EK. We'll see...

Z...
 

jasonbarron

jasonbarron
Zeeman said:
Why is this even a question? 1080Ti easily... If you have the money.

I run two identical rigs - except for the GPU. 6700K, 4GB 3200MHz memory, Asus Gene VIII, 256GB SSD NVME (960 Evo), Corsair Air 240 case, and Noctua NH-U9S coolers (with dual fans), with one rig running a Gigabyte GTX1080 G1 gaming, and the other an EVGA 1080Ti SC2.

Not really worth it for the Ti for non VR - yeah, it's nice for full settings around stations, and perhaps ripping around on a planet, but not really that much better. For VR... All settings are go, it really helps.

NO OC on either, for the record (yet). I'm looking at a water cooling kit for the SC 2 and 6700K from EK. We'll see...

Z...
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The 1080 ti might be overkill for playing ED sans VR, but presumably anybody willing to pony up the bucks for one has other more graphically intense games in their library that would benefit from the extra horse power. I know that I sure do.
 
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