What's the problem? It's not too hard to find plenty of posts arguing that station ramming is legitimate PvP and I don't recall Sandro or anyone else from FDev saying otherwise (I think they may have called it unfortunate or somesuch, but not illegal). Therefore this thread, about station ramming, properly belongs in the PvP forum.
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What's the problem? It's not too hard to find plenty of posts arguing that station ramming is legitimate PvP and I don't recall Sandro or anyone else from FDev saying otherwise (I think they may have called it unfortunate or somesuch, but not illegal). Therefore this thread, about station ramming, properly belongs in the PvP forum.
That works too.
If you're good enough to become a good pilot. Tough luck for those who can't.
I played more than a year, and still not good combat pilot. But I'm trying now with the second account. Perhaps I'll get into griefing as well. I'm sure I can get really good at it.
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How the blazes did this thread wind up in the PvP sub?
OP has been coddled too long to take any responsibilities or actions to defend himself. No, he'd rather cry foul. These types of players don't respond to logic. Rather than take the necessary precautions, they'd rather be a martyr in the fight against the natural human instinct of preying on others.
Because griefing is a proper PvP play. Or perhaps the word "proper" is wrong, but it's a form of approved PvP, so I suspect it's here because it is just that.
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No need to go to any effort just turn up at any CG and block anyone who's acting like a tool, double it up with participating in the CG for profit. Congratulations you've just fixed ED, and made some space-cash.
they are just exploiting game mechanics in a way which was not intended, in order to annoy others. textbook griefing.
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Yep... the OP is a solid protest against deficient game mechanics. Shouldn't be here, IMO.
My fault. I think
Well for starters the OP was discussing the problem of not having proper C&P punishment for messing around an entire station. That's a game mechanics issue last I checked.
Wouldn't combat logging also be a game mechanics issue? That's placed in the PvP section as well.
Yes it would and that thread was also placed in the wrong section in my opinion. It belongs in the general discussions section.
No griefing here. Players are just playing their way within the game rules and mechanics.
Now if some were using force shell cannon in order to push your speed above the limit it would become griefing. Griefing correspond to specific situations.
Yes or understand how this game works and adapt to it.
Yes it is what you paid for.
Yeah in order to face consequences when you commit a crime. Not to remove crimes from the game. And yes, it is insufficient, the reward part is still missing.
Apparently WOW, which you never played is a completely different game (no P2P - no BGS etc). And you have something similar called "report"
Being in Open IS consent to its rules and mechanics and being the focus of another player is one of them.
Choosing the way you play the game does not mean you can choose rules or mechanics. And this choice is only for yourself anyway.
They seem to want all of the sense of danger, without any actual danger. What was that saying about eating cake?
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They should flag combat loggers before anybody else.
Well said OP. As a temporarily solution, you can always use the Block option. In my limited experience, I was never again instanced with people in my block list.
Fighting back is possible against lone gankers only with an engineered ship; it can take some time to get there, but once you do it's very fun!
Griefing can very well be within the game rules. In fact, most griefers defend themselves with this legalistic argument.
The obvious retort is that rules and mechanics that easily allow griefing are inadequate rules and mechanics.
Fighting back is possible against lone gankers only with an engineered ship; it can take some time to get there, but once you do it's very fun!
Griefing can very well be within the game rules. In fact, most griefers defend themselves with this legalistic argument.
The obvious retort is that rules and mechanics that easily allow griefing are inadequate rules and mechanics.
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This is exactly the case.
Its pretty amusing that those engaging or buddies with those engaging in griefing come onto the threads and start defining what "griefing" is - excluding obvious griefing like station ramming.
"Intentional harassment of other players is called “griefing,” which utilizes aspects of the game structure or physics in unintended ways to cause distress for other players."
The punishment for rammers at the station was put in the game by FDev to stop rammers from destroying other ships. That was the intent.
This has been turned on its head - the game mechanic is now being used in an unintended way - in order to annoy others.
Or in other words - its griefing.
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Do you mean a simple speed limit rule is too complicated to avoid feeling griefed ?
Griefing comes from wrong expectations from a player towards the rules and mechanics of the game.
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