Yup, it sure can, and I've entertained some thoughts about trying it. But given that it's a high traffic system it would take a large group working together and covertly to accomplish it. Plus to completely remove the influence of The Ant Hill Mob, you'd have to start and win multiple wars to facilitate the station handovers. It's a complicated task and one that would get a lot of pushback, judging from the reaction I got when I first suggested it.
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Yup, it sure can, and I've entertained some thoughts about trying it. But given that it's a high traffic system it would take a large group working together and covertly to accomplish it. Plus to completely remove the influence of The Ant Hill Mob, you'd have to start and win multiple wars to facilitate the station handovers. It's a complicated task and one that would get a lot of pushback, judging from the reaction I got when I first suggested it.
Yes.
Going to quote the key part here for emphasis:
GalNet said:
The UA's were the sign the Pleiades were not ours. We ignored that. This is on humanity.
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The article is dated 26 AUG 3303, well after Obsidian Orbital had been in the Pleiades. Regardless of any other agendas or narratives others want to push for whatever reason, we (as in actual players playing the game) built Obsidian Orbital well before the Thargoids were there and for unrelated reasons.
This is from Galnet, the day after the CG for Obsidian Orbital started:
https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/5631fca59657bad642c8185c
So that's before Obsidian was built. And also that's only the Galnet article about it, meaning that researchers and those in-the-know knew about it well before that. (I know, I was involved)
Given the communication issues - and the lingering effects of humanity's attempted xenocide - the Thargoids made things about as clear as they possibly could have.
https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/5631fca59657bad642c8185c
GalNet said:
So that's before Obsidian was built. And also that's only the Galnet article about it, meaning that researchers and those in-the-know knew about it well before that. (I know, I was involved)
Given the communication issues - and the lingering effects of humanity's attempted xenocide - the Thargoids made things about as clear as they possibly could have.
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That is simply factually incorrect, as I have demonstrated.
Canonn Interstellar Research Group has their own agenda and what they want implemented in the game for their own reasons (I hear "probes" are involved, but to each their own, I guess) – it's their own little meta RP they have with Frontier, which in actuality is mostly unrelated to Obsidian Orbital and the reasons it was built in the first place.
The discussion about building a forward exploration base and safe haven out in a nebula somewhere was started well before all this mess.
The discussion about building a forward exploration base and safe haven out in a nebula somewhere was started well before all this mess.
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Maybe, but that's not relevant to what you claimed.
You said Obsidian was built before the Thargoids were there. That is not true.
The claims of those saying that the Pleiades area activity is Humanity's intrusion upon the Thargoids, and not vice-versa, have a solid case and objective evidence, if you are willing to admit that or not.
So the probes were found in the area first before the result of the community vote to build Obsidian Orbital out in the Pleiades?
Finding some probes in the area doesn't seem like conclusive evidence of the Thargoids being there and inhabiting the area first (after all, Commanders have been out in the area before the probes were implemented in the game too), but I will admit that it is at least an indication of it being a possibility.
Either way, it's a real shame Canonn was allowed to influence and subvert player involvement toward their own ends.
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It was known that the probes were found in a 135-ish lightyear "shell", centered around Merope. I admit, it's not conclusive, but it's as near to territory marker as anything in Elite.
I'd argue as well, it didn't have to be conclusive. Even if we couldn't have known before, we know now, and we don't need to persist in our misguided actions.
The probes were there. The barnacles were there, the crash sites were there, and the huge Thargoid bases were there, even though we couldn't see them yet.
They were very clearly there first.
I mean, if you want to invade, that's legit. But I'm gonna argue if you try to claim "self-defense".
It was known that the probes were found in a 135-ish lightyear "shell", centered around Merope. I admit, it's not conclusive, but it's as near to territory marker as anything in Elite.
I'd argue as well, it didn't have to be conclusive. Even if we couldn't have known before, we know now, and we don't need to persist in our misguided actions.
The probes were there. The barnacles were there, the crash sites were there, and the huge Thargoid bases were there, even though we couldn't see them yet.
They were very clearly there first.
I mean, if you want to invade, that's legit. But I'm gonna argue if you try to claim "self-defense".
I'm not claiming "self-defense" as I don't engage Thargoids. At worst, in this light and with my involvement with it, I'd think of Obsidian Orbital as being an embassy of humanity, which unfortunately doesn't speak very well of humanity, given the state it's been left in.
rootsrat
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The first convoy consisting of 28 transport ships has arrived, mostly with Robotics from Maskelyne Vision. We are now hauling Aluminium from Oort Orbital in Pleiades Sector KC-V c2-4.
Word of warning, the game crashes a lot, mostly when 1) Just before your ship locks down on the landing pad or 2) When entering the Commodities Market once docked. This happens on Open only.
Also, it turns out that when 28 people asks for docking permission at once, everyone's game crashes
Word of warning, the game crashes a lot, mostly when 1) Just before your ship locks down on the landing pad or 2) When entering the Commodities Market once docked. This happens on Open only.
Also, it turns out that when 28 people asks for docking permission at once, everyone's game crashes
Within this context, I'd very much prefer if there was a serious effort to kick Aegis out of Obsidian Orbital to make the effort in repairing Obsidian Orbital worthwhile, instead of just evacuating it or the like.
Is anyone else in agreement with this?
The inhabitants of Obsidian and the others are evil and corrupt, effigy worshipers, unclean and uncouth, followers of the False One, and just plain bad. Zod has said it is so and so has punished them. Let them burn. Let it ALL burn.
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I'd join in on that.
In a greater context, I'd love to see a wide-scale effort to uncover and work against the powers behind Aegis too - the superpowers, Sirius Corp, etc.
And regarding Thargoids, I'm kinda sad I don't really have a reason to fight them yet. A whole bunch of cool new content, and its only function for me is to be something that I argue that we don't understand enough to declare them "enemies", lol.
Jane Turner
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It would require player coordination - we had a trial at flipping it and realised that the tide on 1000s of random players dropping explo data was a tide we couldn't swim against...... if there was an agreement to back one of the factions and then discipline, flipping it would be relatively easy.
Hagglebeard's Heroes are best placed to take the system.
You guys are forgetting that in the ED universe, we commanders are insignificant in the grand scheme of things. I for one have full confidence that our NPC counterparts will lift their weight and get Obsidian Orbital back into business with minimal effort from us. Have faith in our virtual friends
As far as I can tell, stations don't get NPC repaired. They require actual characters and players to recover.
Good Guys in Quotes will divert relief supplies immediately.
What could be done to influence this change? Missions? Explo data? Just plain trade?
The only missions I see on the board are "go fetch" and massacre missions.
Jane Turner
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There are other stations in Maia.... but all owned by the Ant Hill mob... so
1. choose a faction
2. run mission for tnat faction and do not trade or drop explo data...
3. raise them to >60%
4. end Ant Hill mob's war in a neighboutr
ng system
5. trigger and win a war v AHM