I thought that too, when I first heard it. However, notoriety is tied to the commander, not the ship; it will be interesting to see how that affects things.
Change isn't always bad. Let's see how it works.
Are we supposed to be taking 3.0 C&P seriously?
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I thought that too, when I first heard it. However, notoriety is tied to the commander, not the ship; it will be interesting to see how that affects things.
Change isn't always bad. Let's see how it works.
I think the idea was that a player committing murder in his highly engineered ship can not use his engineered modules in any other ship, becouse the used modules themselves are considered hot. There is no way of redeeming those modules then paying off the bounty at an Interstellar Contracts bureau.
Also if a player continues murdering his infamy will raise and the higher his infamy the more costly will his bounty be.
Still it's easy for players to switch to clean vanilla ships to continue with "clean" records. But then they will not have the advantage of maxed out hyperengineered death-machines.
Also if a player continues murdering his infamy will raise and the higher his infamy the more costly will his bounty be.
Still it's easy for players to switch to clean vanilla ships to continue with "clean" records. But then they will not have the advantage of maxed out hyperengineered death-machines.
I think this is reasonable.
You have to esentially dis-assemble your ship, module by module, clean every module individually, then sell and rebuy the hull.
Seems like a massive investment of time, money and effort
You have to esentially dis-assemble your ship, module by module, clean every module individually, then sell and rebuy the hull.
Seems like a massive investment of time, money and effort
Please see my thread on this. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/401655-Serious-Information-Request
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dunno about the 'hot modules', i don't remember them being mentioned before. i guess the aim is to avoid a 'strip rng modules, sell ship' approach to cleaning hot ships? which raises questions: if modules remain hot, will they heat a clean ship when fitted? could someone potentially make his whole fleet hot that way with a single bounty?
not really important questions, i expect all this fuss about c&p to fail anyway. i think it's just there so you guys can keep being interested and talking about it, and support the illusion that frontier actually cares/has a clue.
Again, please see my thread on Information Reqested. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/401655-Serious-Information-Request
The bit about hot modules is in today's beta notes.
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Or make it like high end speeding offences in UK. The exact fine depends on your wealth. 20% of all asset value is 20% no matter how rich you are
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And with engineers changing, it’ll be a lot harder having multiple engineered ships fer just such an occasion.
Hmm I think we just stumbled upon the reason fer half the salt ^
Correction, combat logging makes _any_ punishment null and void. Such is the nature of any P2P game.
Ouch. Truth hurts...[where is it]
What happens when the game decides to wrongly label you as a murderer because of a low hull ship hitting yours accidently and exploding or when you get done for assault, due to crossfire when trying to defend someone under attack from a griefer, only for said griefer to kill the player but for some reason the game still blames you as if you were the primary attacker, despite you seeing clearly that you didn't deliver the final blow.
Unless of course the idea is to make crime easier? SMACK! Didn't see that one coming did you?!
I dunno.
Speaking as a bit of a goodie-two-shoes, I've always had a dark desire to embark on a crime-spree but at the moment I'm deterred simply 'cos it seems like it'd be more straightforward to set up a cryptocurrency-based hedge-fund than to indulge in criminal behavior in ED.
I think you are supposed to be testing it out, not complaining about it before you've even tried it. Maybe it works and maybe it doesn't but until you tried it no-one will know. If it doesn't work then it gets modified and tweaked until it does. If it does work then the complaints will probably continue anyway.
Dont forget FD made it very, very, very VERY clear that:
1) criminal behavior, including murderhobo, is something that should be possible in the game.
2) People are primarily responsible for their own ship.
So if people cant deal with some Vipers, than that is definitely working as intended. It seems some here mistakenly feel C&P should 'ban griefers'. FD has said over and over and over again that is not going to happen.
Yes. Been known for months and discussed on the live streams. Not sure if it is FD who doesnt care and has no clue...
The new C&P is for me a cosmetic update but not a core improvement.
IMO for "pvp criminals" it should be allowed to play in open only as long as they are wanted for pvp crimes. And PvP bounty hunters should have tools and intel to search for them. That would create a new dynamic in elite and finally pvp crimes would have consequences.
This right here. % Total value of all assets including modules, ships and bank balance, or a lump sum. Whichever is higher.